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Re: PlayStation Classic announced - 20 pre-loaded games (FFVII, Tekken 3, Wild Arms, RR4...) - coming 03/12/2018 (£89.99

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:55 pm
by Victor Mildew
Twisted metal world tour was amazing in split screen.

Re: PlayStation Classic announced - 20 pre-loaded games (FFVII, Tekken 3, Wild Arms, RR4...) - coming 03/12/2018 (£89.99

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:01 pm
by NickSCFC
Lagamorph wrote:
NickSCFC wrote:
KK wrote:I think they're going to include a few Dual Shock compatible titles as an excuse to sell one as an add-on in 2019.

I was going through the A-Z of OPM and trying to narrow it down to just 15 more titles is absolutely impossible.

Honestly, you could be arguing what to include all day long. I'm guessing Sony came up with a list and then set about seeing what they could and couldn't get hold of.


Really need that hack.

How was it done for the NES Classic? What interface was used? How much additional storage was there?

There was plenty of extra storage on the NES/SNES classics but that's because the games themselves are tiny and getting smaller storage than they put in it probably would've actually cost more because of the lack of demand for storage that small.

With SNES games you're talking a few MB on size per game.
For PS1 games you're talking more 300-700MB per disc, with some games requiring multiple discs. FF7 alone is going to clock in at somewhere between 1.5-2GB.
They might go with 32GB of storage, in which case there'll be little to nothing left for additional games, but if they have several multi disc games that might not be enough.
If they go with 64GB of storage though there should be room for another 10-20 games.


Is there a possibility they could be run through the USB port somehow?

Re: PlayStation Classic announced - 20 pre-loaded games (FFVII, Tekken 3, Wild Arms, RR4...) - coming 03/12/2018 (£89.99

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:35 pm
by jawafour
KK wrote:...Personally one game I hope is omitted from the European version and replaced with something else is Twisted Metal. The Americans seem to go crazy for that series, whereas here it was a complete nonentity.

Twisted Metal: World Tour was brilliant! The series did take a bit of a dive after that, though.

Re: PlayStation Classic announced - 20 pre-loaded games (FFVII, Tekken 3, Wild Arms, RR4...) - coming 03/12/2018 (£89.99

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:04 pm
by NickSCFC
KK wrote:...Personally one game I hope is omitted from the European version and replaced with something else is Twisted Metal. The Americans seem to go crazy for that series, whereas here it was a complete nonentity.


Yeah it seems to resonate with them the same way Wipeout resonates with us.

The N64 was pretty big there too where as here it was a relative flop.

Re: PlayStation Classic announced - 20 pre-loaded games (FFVII, Tekken 3, Wild Arms, RR4...) - coming 03/12/2018 (£89.99

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:14 pm
by KK
If VG Chartz is loosely to be believed, it shipped 2.1 million in the USA, and just 250,000 throughout the whole of Europe. So unpopular was it that Twisted Metal 3 and 4 then weren’t even released in the U.K.

OPM gave it 9/10, but it played 3rd fiddle that month to Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain and the disappointment that was cover game Monster Trucks.

Re: PlayStation Classic announced - 20 pre-loaded games (FFVII, Tekken 3, Wild Arms, RR4...) - coming 03/12/2018 (£89.99

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:23 pm
by NickSCFC
Twisted Metal 2 and Twisted Metal Black (PS2) were amazing, don't think I even played the rest but they didn't review well.

Re: PlayStation Classic announced - 20 pre-loaded games (FFVII, Tekken 3, Wild Arms, RR4...) - coming 03/12/2018 (£89.99

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:08 pm
by Lagamorph
NickSCFC wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
NickSCFC wrote:
KK wrote:I think they're going to include a few Dual Shock compatible titles as an excuse to sell one as an add-on in 2019.

I was going through the A-Z of OPM and trying to narrow it down to just 15 more titles is absolutely impossible.

Honestly, you could be arguing what to include all day long. I'm guessing Sony came up with a list and then set about seeing what they could and couldn't get hold of.


Really need that hack.

How was it done for the NES Classic? What interface was used? How much additional storage was there?

There was plenty of extra storage on the NES/SNES classics but that's because the games themselves are tiny and getting smaller storage than they put in it probably would've actually cost more because of the lack of demand for storage that small.

With SNES games you're talking a few MB on size per game.
For PS1 games you're talking more 300-700MB per disc, with some games requiring multiple discs. FF7 alone is going to clock in at somewhere between 1.5-2GB.
They might go with 32GB of storage, in which case there'll be little to nothing left for additional games, but if they have several multi disc games that might not be enough.
If they go with 64GB of storage though there should be room for another 10-20 games.


Is there a possibility they could be run through the USB port somehow?

Well it's possible to expand storage via the USB with both the NES and SNES classics I think, so there's certainly a chance of it being possible here too. It's all dependent on the hardware and software though.

It's impossible to know for sure until the thing is out and in people's hands.

Re: PlayStation Classic announced - 20 pre-loaded games (FFVII, Tekken 3, Wild Arms, RR4...) - coming 03/12/2018 (£89.99

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:55 am
by Gemini73
Sony delivers bad news to PSOne fans...

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment ... d-Trophies

Re: PlayStation Classic announced - 20 pre-loaded games (FFVII, Tekken 3, Wild Arms, RR4...) - coming 03/12/2018 (£89.99

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:05 am
by Qikz
Gemini73 wrote:Sony delivers bad news to PSOne fans...

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment ... d-Trophies


I mean... that stuff was obvious from Day 1.

Re: PlayStation Classic announced - 20 pre-loaded games (FFVII, Tekken 3, Wild Arms, RR4...) - coming 03/12/2018 (£89.99

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:06 am
by NickSCFC
Gemini73 wrote:Sony delivers bad news to PSOne fans...

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment ... d-Trophies


We already knew this, hence the discussion about ROMs and hacks on the previous page.

Also, The Express forgot to put "GAMES SHOCK" in their headline this time.

Re: PlayStation Classic announced - 20 pre-loaded games (FFVII, Tekken 3, Wild Arms, RR4...) - coming 03/12/2018 (£89.99

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:12 am
by Tafdolphin
I remember my parents buying me the PSP Twisted Metal from America when they couldn't get the game I requested.

It was fine. Played for a few hours, never touched it again.

Re: PlayStation Classic announced - 20 pre-loaded games (FFVII, Tekken 3, Wild Arms, RR4...) - coming 03/12/2018 (£89.99

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:16 am
by Gemini73
NickSCFC wrote:
Gemini73 wrote:Sony delivers bad news to PSOne fans...

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment ... d-Trophies


We already knew this, hence the discussion about ROMs and hacks on the previous page.

Also, The Express forgot to put "GAMES SHOCK" in their headline this time.


Well maybe if Lady Diana was still alive it may have been an entirely different story altogether.

(and perhaps I should've read the last few pages :oops: )

Re: PlayStation Classic announced - 20 pre-loaded games (FFVII, Tekken 3, Wild Arms, RR4...) - coming 03/12/2018 (£89.99

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:22 am
by NickSCFC
Gemini73 wrote:
NickSCFC wrote:
Gemini73 wrote:Sony delivers bad news to PSOne fans...

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment ... d-Trophies


We already knew this, hence the discussion about ROMs and hacks on the previous page.

Also, The Express forgot to put "GAMES SHOCK" in their headline this time.


Well maybe if Lady Diana was still alive it may have been an entirely different story altogether.

(and perhaps I should've read the last few pages :oops: )


The people's princess, forever in are hearts.

Re: PlayStation Classic announced - 20 pre-loaded games (FFVII, Tekken 3, Wild Arms, RR4...) - coming 03/12/2018 (£89.99

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:25 am
by KK
At what point do you think Sony will need the games list locked down? Factor in production, testing...it must be pretty close already.

Re: PlayStation Classic announced - 20 pre-loaded games (FFVII, Tekken 3, Wild Arms, RR4...) - coming 03/12/2018 (£89.99

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:28 am
by NickSCFC
KK wrote:At what point do you think Sony will need the games list locked down? Factor in production, testing...it must be pretty close already.


It probably already is.

They'll trickle feed the game announcements to generate buzz.

Seeing that 3 of the 5 are Final Fantasy VIII, Tekken 3 and Ridge Racer 4, they're going the right way about selecting the best/most important games.

Jumping Flash is still an odd one, apparently very popular in Japan though.

Re: PlayStation Classic announced - 20 pre-loaded games (FFVII, Tekken 3, Wild Arms, RR4...) - coming 03/12/2018 (£89.99

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:41 am
by KK
Of all the launch window games, the only one that I would have chosen least aside from Jumping Flash would have been Cyber Sled.

That Namco feature already, maybe there's a good shout of Mr Driller, Ace Combat and Klonoa appearing too. Smash Court Tennis would be great (and it does feature on the PlayStation Store in Japan) but they slapped Anna Kournikova on it over here. Wonder how much she would want to relicense her name these days...

Re: PlayStation Classic announced - 20 pre-loaded games (FFVII, Tekken 3, Wild Arms, RR4...) - coming 03/12/2018 (£89.99

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:42 am
by Jenuall
Wild Arms is an interesting choice, I mean I had it back in the day and it's a nice little JRPG in the SNES style but it's hardly a blockbuster.

Also the 3D battle graphics were dated even on release so it'll look strawberry floating terrible now! :lol:

Re: PlayStation Classic announced - 20 pre-loaded games (FFVII, Tekken 3, Wild Arms, RR4...) - coming 03/12/2018 (£89.99

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:49 am
by KK
I've got the PowerStation magazine guide to Wild Arms should anyone require it closer to the time.

Re: PlayStation Classic announced - 20 pre-loaded games (FFVII, Tekken 3, Wild Arms, RR4...) - coming 03/12/2018 (£89.99

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:50 am
by NickSCFC
KK wrote:That Namco feature already, maybe there's a good shout of Mr Driller, Ace Combat and Klonoa appearing too.


SoulBlade is the only other Namco game I'd put on the list.

Time Crisis is fondly remembered but terrible without the gun, Ace Combat 3 is also great, but not as popular as SoulBlade was.

Loads of sites and YouTuber's demanding FF VIII, FF IX and FF Tactics... one game per franchise guys.

Re: PlayStation Classic announced - 20 pre-loaded games (FFVII, Tekken 3, Wild Arms, RR4...) - coming 03/12/2018 (£89.99

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:57 am
by KK
Next big event on the games calendar appears to be...Paris Games Week (26–30 October)? Could hear the rest of the games announced then.