PlayStation Classic thread - "It may look like a harmless bagel toaster, but inside is a deadly doughnut"

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Favourite PlayStation classic game/series

Metal Gear Solid
13
21%
Resident Evil
8
13%
Final Fantasy
10
16%
Tomb Raider
5
8%
Gran Turismo
5
8%
Tekken
1
2%
Crash Bandicoot
2
3%
WipEout
1
2%
Ridge Racer
4
7%
Parappa the Rapper
1
2%
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
5
8%
Other
6
10%
 
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PostRe: PlayStation Classic thread - "It may look like a harmless bagel toaster, but inside is a deadly doughnut"
by Mafro » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:32 pm

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Sleighamorph wrote:Well the USB cables can be extended at least, though it will impact on the look of them being connected unless someone releases a PS1 themed USB extension cable.


Aye, true. Though what I really meant with the USB plug thing was about the power cable for the machine itself, as KKlein seemed to have some trouble using a USB port / phone charger to just switch it on, and then needed to go and buy an extra plug.

Maybe that's an isolated thing, but if not it's a bit of a Christmas 'batteries not included' moment; it's not the cost it's the inconvenience. I still don't get why they didn't include these things with the Nintendo ones either. They must cost all of 30p or something to make?

I don't know if it was a conscious decision on Nintendo's part but I actually quite like that they didn't include one, the vast majority of people will not need one and donuts just another piece of waste electronics pushed out into the market that is going to get binned.

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic thread - "It may look like a harmless bagel toaster, but inside is a deadly doughnut"
by KK » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:43 pm

The manuals are up: https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/get-h ... e-manuals/

Anyone hoping for the originals will be disappointed as they’re in greatly abridged form and without any of the artwork, graphics etc but I suppose that’s to be expected.

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic thread - "It may look like a harmless bagel toaster, but inside is a deadly doughnut"
by CitizenErased » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:03 pm

In-case anyone has a PS1 or PS2 laying about and wants to HD it up apparently this is the best* way to do it: https://www.poundtechnology.com/playstation2/

*emulation being the best best ofc

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic thread - "It may look like a harmless bagel toaster, but inside is a deadly doughnut"
by Jenu-All I Want For Christmas » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:18 pm

Mafro wrote:
Jenu-All I Want For Christmas wrote:
Abacus wrote:
Sleighamorph wrote:Well the USB cables can be extended at least, though it will impact on the look of them being connected unless someone releases a PS1 themed USB extension cable.


Aye, true. Though what I really meant with the USB plug thing was about the power cable for the machine itself, as KKlein seemed to have some trouble using a USB port / phone charger to just switch it on, and then needed to go and buy an extra plug.

Maybe that's an isolated thing, but if not it's a bit of a Christmas 'batteries not included' moment; it's not the cost it's the inconvenience. I still don't get why they didn't include these things with the Nintendo ones either. They must cost all of 30p or something to make?

I don't know if it was a conscious decision on Nintendo's part but I actually quite like that they didn't include one, the vast majority of people will not need one and donuts just another piece of waste electronics pushed out into the market that is going to get binned.

:lol:

Bloody phone keyboards!

Now I really want a donut as well...

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic thread - "It may look like a harmless bagel toaster, but inside is a deadly doughnut"
by Abacus » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:20 pm

Mmmm...donuts...

Fair play about not putting unnecessary electrical clutter in the box, mind. Agreed. We've all got a drawer full of electrical stuff like that which we don't quite want to throw away, or don't know how to throw away, without it turning up on the news having killed some sealife.

It's just if it is a bit of a fiddle in this case to find the right thingamajig, then that's a bit of a shame.

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic thread - "It may look like a harmless bagel toaster, but inside is a deadly doughnut"
by KK » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:20 pm

Looking on social media and it looks like a few people are also having problems powering up the machine. :fp:

So the PlayStation classic is powered by a micro usb. But it has to go into a plug adaptor. My tv can’t power it, my Xbox can’t power it, my laptop can’t power it. Not a good start Sony

Already got mine... and what bothers me the most is that I can't charge it from the same TV USB that can charge the Vita TV or the snes mini... not even from my computer USBs... so hacking it will be troublesome...

I may have purchased and returned the PlayStation Classic on the same weekend. I’ll wait for a new revision or PS2 mini. A bit disappointed with emulation quality, also couldn’t get it to work directly with my TV/PC USB ports like Mini SNES. The console/controllers look great

So if you know someone getting this for Christmas do them a favour and let them know. Looks like if the USB isn’t the precise voltage it won’t work.

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic thread - "It may look like a harmless bagel toaster, but inside is a deadly doughnut"
by Advent7 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:23 pm

CitizenErased wrote:In-case anyone has a PS1 or PS2 laying about and wants to HD it up apparently this is the best* way to do it: https://www.poundtechnology.com/playstation2/

*emulation being the best best ofc


The one I got from them for my dreamcast was excellent, so I'd happily get one for the PlayStation.

Edit: saying that, the reviews don't look too great. I guess I can always just use my ps3.

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic thread - "It may look like a harmless bagel toaster, but inside is a deadly doughnut"
by Sleighamorph » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:24 pm

Hm, might be worth a trip to Pound Stretcher for some of the ones you picked up then KK.
Got a picture of the packaging just incase?

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic thread - "It may look like a harmless bagel toaster, but inside is a deadly doughnut"
by Sleighamorph » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:33 pm

Apparently some people have had luck powering it from their TV using a different USB cable as the one included is shite.

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic thread - "It may look like a harmless bagel toaster, but inside is a deadly doughnut"
by KK » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:37 pm

I threw the packaging away on the way home, but it’s white and looks like a knock off of an iPhone one.

You know what, I didn’t think of the cable actually. But come to think of it the HDMI cable bundled with the PS4 Pro was dodgy as well.

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic thread - "It may look like a harmless bagel toaster, but inside is a deadly doughnut"
by Snowy » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:52 pm

KK wrote:Looking on social media and it looks like a few people are also having problems powering up the machine. :fp:

So the PlayStation classic is powered by a micro usb. But it has to go into a plug adaptor. My tv can’t power it, my Xbox can’t power it, my laptop can’t power it. Not a good start Sony

Already got mine... and what bothers me the most is that I can't charge it from the same TV USB that can charge the Vita TV or the snes mini... not even from my computer USBs... so hacking it will be troublesome...

I may have purchased and returned the PlayStation Classic on the same weekend. I’ll wait for a new revision or PS2 mini. A bit disappointed with emulation quality, also couldn’t get it to work directly with my TV/PC USB ports like Mini SNES. The console/controllers look great

So if you know someone getting this for Christmas do them a favour and let them know. Looks like if the USB isn’t the precise voltage it won’t work.


This will be because the specs say that it wants 1amp and USB from your TV or any piece of equipment won't provide 1amp. If it's a 3.0 port it'll provide a max of 900mA and if it's a 2.0 port it'll be 500mA. The Vita TV needs a max of 560mA and tests of the SNES mini show it averaging around 250mA with spikes into the 400mA area but never going over 500mA.

Advent7 wrote:
CitizenErased wrote:In-case anyone has a PS1 or PS2 laying about and wants to HD it up apparently this is the best* way to do it: https://www.poundtechnology.com/playstation2/

*emulation being the best best ofc


The one I got from them for my dreamcast was excellent, so I'd happily get one for the PlayStation.

Edit: saying that, the reviews don't look too great. I guess I can always just use my ps3.


I picked up the Dreamcast version after your recommendation and love it. Makes playing Daytona brilliant. I've got this version on pre-order, it should be here in the next day or two so will find a suitable section on the forum to shove a little review once I've had a go with it.

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic thread - "It may look like a harmless bagel toaster, but inside is a deadly doughnut"
by Sleighamorph » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:53 am

Sony have released the sourcecode used on this and on going through it someone has found configuration/settings files for individual games that were considered and tested before the final lineup and then later dropped,


Colin Mcrae Rally
Crash Bandicoot 1 and 2
Disney Toy Story 2
Driver
Fighting Force
Gran Turismo
Grand Theft Auto 2 (we only got 1)
Harry Potter and the philosophers stone
Klonoa Door to Phantamile
Kula World
Legacy of Kain Soul Reaver
Medal of Honor
Medievel
Mega Man Legends
Parappa the Rapper
Ridge Racer
Silent Hill
Spec Ops Stealth Patrol
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Street Fighter EX PLUS
Suikoden
Tomb Raider
Tomb Raider 2
Tomba
Tony Hawks Skate Boarding
Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2
Toshinden (EU and NA)
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PostRe: PlayStation Classic thread - "It may look like a harmless bagel toaster, but inside is a deadly doughnut"
by Green Gecko » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:10 am

The reason you often don't get usb power adapters (and they are meant to be USB due to an EU waste reduction directive which is good) in Europe anymore is not environmental, it's a cost saving measure because you can release one SKU/package for the whole continent instead of having to make 3 different bundles and AC pin designs, even if they're nearly always regulated and switchable power supplies anyway. One way around that is to include all 3 pin layouts as an attachment to the power adapter but again that's more expensive than simply not including a PSU at all.

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic thread - "It may look like a harmless bagel toaster, but inside is a deadly doughnut"
by Seven Posers Posing » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:19 am

Jenu-All I Want For Christmas wrote:I don't know if it was a conscious decision on Nintendo's part but I actually quite like that they didn't include one, the vast majority of people will not need one and donuts just another piece of waste electronics pushed out into the market that is going to get binned.


I can't be the only only one who wants to hear more about the donuts, can I?

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic thread - "It may look like a harmless bagel toaster, but inside is a deadly doughnut"
by Bill Clay » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:30 am

KK wrote:Looking on social media and it looks like a few people are also having problems powering up the machine. :fp:

So the PlayStation classic is powered by a micro usb. But it has to go into a plug adaptor. My tv can’t power it, my Xbox can’t power it, my laptop can’t power it. Not a good start Sony

Already got mine... and what bothers me the most is that I can't charge it from the same TV USB that can charge the Vita TV or the snes mini... not even from my computer USBs... so hacking it will be troublesome...

I may have purchased and returned the PlayStation Classic on the same weekend. I’ll wait for a new revision or PS2 mini. A bit disappointed with emulation quality, also couldn’t get it to work directly with my TV/PC USB ports like Mini SNES. The console/controllers look great

So if you know someone getting this for Christmas do them a favour and let them know. Looks like if the USB isn’t the precise voltage it won’t work.


Looks like you should go to Pound Stretcher, buy all the remaining stock.
eBay them as "PlayStation Classic USB adapter - guaranteed to work £12.99".

£££££$$$$$$$£££££££

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic thread - "It may look like a harmless bagel toaster, but inside is a deadly doughnut"
by Seven Posers Posing » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:46 am

That line about 'hacking it will be troublesome' stood out for me there. Deliberate move?

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic thread - "It may look like a harmless bagel toaster, but inside is a deadly doughnut"
by chanticleer » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:52 am

Turns out that you can change a lot of the settings by plugging in a USB keyboard and pressing escape.


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PostRe: PlayStation Classic thread - "It may look like a harmless bagel toaster, but inside is a deadly doughnut"
by Bill Clay » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:01 am

Would changing the "frame skip" fix the juddering?

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic thread - "It may look like a harmless bagel toaster, but inside is a deadly doughnut"
by Sleighamorph » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:30 am

Seven Posers Posing wrote:That line about 'hacking it will be troublesome' stood out for me there. Deliberate move?

I don't think so.
The unit just needs more current than a typical USB port provides.

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic thread - "It may look like a harmless bagel toaster, but inside is a deadly doughnut"
by Mafro » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:30 am

Bill Clay wrote:Would changing the "frame skip" fix the juddering?

Apparently you can enable 60fps.

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