Politicians the least trusted "experts" in the UK; Leave EU voters less likely to trust any

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PostPoliticians the least trusted "experts" in the UK; Leave EU voters less likely to trust any
by KK » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:31 pm

YouGov wrote:Leave voters are less likely to trust any experts – even weather forecasters

YouGov research shows that class and politics seem to be the biggest indicators on whether people trust experts.

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For many people, the most memorable comment of the EU referendum campaign will have been Michael Gove’s remark on experts.

Appearing on a Sky News Q&A session about three weeks before voting day, Gove proclaimed that “people in this country have had enough of experts”.

The comment was controversial, but with the majority of experts backing the case for Britain remaining in the EU the eventual vote to leave would seem to have borne out Gove’s case.

Now a new YouGov survey has tested how far the British public trust various different types of experts when they talk about their own fields of expertise.

(It is worth pointing out that Gove’s own experts comment was relatively narrowly defined – “experts from organisations with acronyms”, whereas we have asked about a broader selection of experts).

At 84%, the group of experts the public was most willing to trust was nurses. The opinions of doctors were almost equally trusted, at 82% for doctors in general and 80% for people’s own GP.

Scientists and historians also performed well, with 71% of people saying they trust them when they talk about their own areas of expertise.

At the other end of the scale politicians in general were the least trusted, with just 5% of people trusting them – although this does increase to 20% for people’s own MP.

Also coming off poorly were civil servants (26%) and economists (25%).

Politics and class divide opinion on experts

We already knew that during the referendum campaign Leave voters were unlikely to trust any experts’ opinions on whether or not Britain should leave the EU. But it would appear that Leave voters’ distrust of experts extends far more widely.

The results show that Leave voters are less likely than Remain voters to trust every single type of expert listed. This trust gap was especially pronounced for certain types of experts: Leave voters are 21 percentage points less likely to trust economists than Remain voters, 20 points less likely to trust scientists and civil servants and are even 15 points less likely to trust weather forecasters.

In terms of party politics, those who voted for the Conservatives and UKIP in 2015 were markedly less likely to trust experts than those who voted Labour or Lib Dems, with UKIP voters especially likely to be more distrustful.

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Class also seems to be a strong indicator of whether a person is likely to trust experts’ opinions. Although the difference between the classes is slightly less pronounced, working class people (those in the C2DE social group) are less likely to trust experts than middle class people (those in the ABC1 group).

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/02/17/le ... perts-eve/

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PostRe: Politicians the least trusted "experts" in the UK; Leave EU voters less likely to trust any
by BID0 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:33 pm

Historians equal to Scientists :lol:

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PostRe: Politicians the least trusted "experts" in the UK; Leave EU voters less likely to trust any
by Moggy » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:34 pm

Except for Nigel, he tells it how it is!

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by BID0 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:35 pm

Moggy wrote:Except for Nigel, he tells it how it is!

He isn't a politicians, he is one of the lads

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PostRe: Politicians the least trusted "experts" in the UK; Leave EU voters less likely to trust any
by Alvin Flummux » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:41 pm

"Nutritionists" :dread:

It's dietician you utter nobs.

Jupiter is in your sun sign this week, making it pretty crowded in there, what with Jupiter being the largest of the planets and all.
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PostRe: Politicians the least trusted "experts" in the UK; Leave EU voters less likely to trust any
by Moggy » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:46 pm

BID0 wrote:
Moggy wrote:Except for Nigel, he tells it how it is!

He isn't a politicians, he is one of the lads


Yeah he drinks beer and smokes! Legend.

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PostRe: Politicians the least trusted "experts" in the UK; Leave EU voters less likely to trust any
by Lotus » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:05 pm

When politicians refuse to even answer a basic yes or no question, it's no real surprise. It's a dire situtation when the people in control of our destiny are mainly in it for themselves, and/or insistent on pushing their own agenda rather than taking into account what people want. I can't remember a time when anybody's had general trust in polticians. 'twas ever thus, as far as I can recall.

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PostRe: Politicians the least trusted "experts" in the UK; Leave EU voters less likely to trust any
by Hyperion » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:07 pm

71% :datass:

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PostRe: Politicians the least trusted "experts" in the UK; Leave EU voters less likely to trust any
by PaperMacheMario » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:00 am

Alvin Flummux wrote:"Nutritionists" :dread:

It's dietician you utter nobs.

Aren't they different things? My wife's a dietitian and gets mildly irritated when she gets referred to as a nutritionist.

Although in this case I imagine they've probably grouped them together.

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PostRe: Politicians the least trusted "experts" in the UK; Leave EU voters less likely to trust any
by Lotus » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:13 am

PaperMacheMario wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:"Nutritionists" :dread:

It's dietician you utter nobs.

Aren't they different things? My wife's a dietitian and gets mildly irritated when she gets referred to as a nutritionist.

Although in this case I imagine they've probably grouped them together.

Anybody can call themselves a nutritionist. You can spout all kinds of shite under the title of 'nutritionist', but in reality know nothing and not have any knowledge or qualifications about what you're discussing. With dietitians there's an authorised body, set qualifications and an associated register of practitioners.

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by PaperMacheMario » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:20 pm

Lotus wrote:
PaperMacheMario wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:"Nutritionists" :dread:

It's dietician you utter nobs.

Aren't they different things? My wife's a dietitian and gets mildly irritated when she gets referred to as a nutritionist.

Although in this case I imagine they've probably grouped them together.

Anybody can call themselves a nutritionist. You can spout all kinds of shite under the title of 'nutritionist', but in reality know nothing and not have any knowledge or qualifications about what you're discussing. With dietitians there's an authorised body, set qualifications and an associated register of practitioners.

I'm sure there was a separate course at her university that was for nutrition rather than dietetics though? I just assumed it was a different kind of profession first and a bullshit title second.

Anyway, it's dietitian. :shifty:

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PostRe: Politicians the least trusted "experts" in the UK; Leave EU voters less likely to trust any
by Lucien » Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:26 pm

BID0 wrote:Historians equal to Scientists :lol:


Don't see what's funny/surprising there.

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by Meep » Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:54 pm

Lucien wrote:
BID0 wrote:Historians equal to Scientists :lol:


Don't see what's funny/surprising there.

History is often very subjective and often has contradictory accounts of the same thing from different sides. It's usually fairly simple to prove or disprove a scientific hypothesis but trying to figure out exactly what transpired centuries ago, or even decades ago, can get every political and contentious.

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by lex-man » Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:57 pm

Apparently my local MP is much more trustworthy than the average MP.

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PostRe: Politicians the least trusted "experts" in the UK; Leave EU voters less likely to trust any
by Lucien » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:36 pm

Meep wrote:
Lucien wrote:
BID0 wrote:Historians equal to Scientists :lol:


Don't see what's funny/surprising there.


History is often very subjective and often has contradictory accounts of the same thing from different sides. It's usually fairly simple to prove or disprove a scientific hypothesis but trying to figure out exactly what transpired centuries ago, or even decades ago, can get every political and contentious.


Historians are meant to be objective too, and I suspect largely are. Of course anything could have happened in history, so they may be wrong about things, but I would have thought most people "trust" historians most of the time albeit it in a different kind of way: i.e. I trust you studied sources etc, even though it's possible Napoleon never existed.

All that said, I Do not trust polls very much right now (not that I was ever a huge fan) so it's all moot!

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PostRe: Politicians the least trusted "experts" in the UK; Leave EU voters less likely to trust any
by lex-man » Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:20 am

I think polls are alright. It's just that they are only accurate within a certain percent. Also it's much hard to get data from younger voters.

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by Rex Kramer » Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:29 am

Which makes it bizarre that Leave voters, who were constantly told by experts (scientists, economists etc) that voting leave was a mistake, took the word of politicians as their basis for making a decision.

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PostRe: Politicians the least trusted "experts" in the UK; Leave EU voters less likely to trust any
by That's not a growth » Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:31 am

It's easier to believe something if it's what you want to hear.

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by Moggy » Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:34 am

Rex Kramer wrote:Which makes it bizarre that Leave voters, who were constantly told by experts (scientists, economists etc) that voting leave was a mistake, took the word of politicians as their basis for making a decision.


Yes but the historians reminded them of Hitler and Napoleon and they remembered that Europe cannot be trusted.

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by Oblomov Boblomov » Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:51 am

That's not a growth wrote:It's easier to believe something if it's what you want to hear.

This. It's called confirmation bias and it is something thick and/or narrow-minded people suffer from quite severely.

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