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So, first off those tweets are nonsense. If your first line of opposition to the burka is that it 'hides women's beauty' you need to strawberry floating check your priorities. Ditto for the blanket statement on Stockholm Syndrome. Mansplaining alert right there. As mentioned, the issue is incredibly complex and those patronising tweets add nothing to either argument.
Secondly, as someone living in France (because of course this gives me omnipotence over all French political happenings) I can tell you that the banning of religious face coverings over here has not been a successful policy. It was an unpopular law enacted by an unpopular President and it's still a hugely controversial issue tinged with racism and recriminations.
In April 2018 in the Mirail district of Toulouse police asked a woman to remove her face-covering veil so she could be identified, she refused and while being taken into the police vehicle, she started screaming. Shortly thereafter about 30 individuals assaulted the police officers by throwing objects at them. The officers responded with tear gas and stun grenades and had to use their weapons 18 times before being able to leave. Later the same night there was further rioting associated with this incident in the Renerie and Bellefontaine districts of Toulouse where 11 vehicles were set afire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_ba ... g#Response
Burqa ban five years on - 'We created a monster'
https://www.thelocal.fr/20151012/france ... -a-monster
Five years into ban, burqa divide widens in France
https://www.dw.com/en/five-years-into-b ... a-19177275
French police make woman remove clothing on Nice beach following burkini ban
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... nice-beach
I'm always a wary of those who lean too hard on the banning side of the argument. For many, even some self confessed liberals, it amounts to little more than an excuse for racism. As a white western man, I do not believe the burka should want to be worn by anyone. But also as a white western man, if some women do chose to wear one I would not seek to deny them their choice,.
Karl wrote:Re: 21 Lessons: A lot of apologism for fundamentally fascistic rhetoric there. Anti-immigrationists stress that one of the most basic rights of every human collective is to defend itself against invasion, whether in the form of armies or migrants. I don't think that the comparison between migrants and marauding armies is valid. Equating migration with invasion is a hard-right viewpoint. I think replying "you are a fascist" to someone making that argument is perfectly reasonable.
Yep. I'm sorry to admit it but I stopped reading there. Anyone willing to compare refugees to an invading army is not someone who's opinion I have any interest in.