Politics Thread 5

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by Hexx » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:46 pm

Errkal wrote:
Hexx wrote:He's one of the MRA brigade I think. Any reason from him forthcoming?


Gonna be in Moggs cabinet.


Took me far too long to realise you didn't mean Moggy :lol:

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by Moggy » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:55 pm

Hexx wrote:
Errkal wrote:
Hexx wrote:He's one of the MRA brigade I think. Any reason from him forthcoming?


Gonna be in Moggs cabinet.


Took me far to long to realise you didn't mean Moggy :lol:


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by KK » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:44 pm

Sir Christopher Chope, the MP for Christchurch since 1997, also used the Commons session on Friday to delay another government-backed bill, which would make it an offence to attack police dogs or horses, or prison officer dogs.

Backed by the environment secretary, Michael Gove, it amends the 2006 Animal Welfare Act by making it a specific offence of causing unnecessary suffering to an animal “under the control of a relevant officer”, such as a police or prison officer. It also removes the current provision for someone to claim they were acting in self defence if they harmed a service animal.

More like Chris Chode.

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by Moggy » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:54 pm

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by KK » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:03 pm

Labour Live - Saturday 16th June 2018

Ticket prices have been slashed and there have been problems with the beer, but the party still has its star performer

It was intended to build on that 2017 Glastonbury moment, when tens of thousands of people chanted “Oh Jeremy Corbyn” in an outburst of post-election euphoria. But with Labour Live – the party’s attempt at running a music and politics festival, one year on from the Glastonbury love-in – organisers will just be hoping a few thousand people turn up and the rain holds off.

Insiders say more than 3,000 of 20,000 tickets have been sold, though the party won’t confirm this. The trade union Unite has been giving away tickets just to ensure a decent crowd at the White Hart Lane recreation ground in Tottenham, north London, on Saturday.

In a week in which Theresa May has faced incessant battles to force Brexit though the parliament, Labour staffers talk of little other than the prospects for Labour Live, with its success or otherwise being seen within the party as an indicator of whether Corbyn’s popularity has peaked.

One senior party employee said that while the idea – the brainchild of the MP Ian Lavery – was well intentioned, the leader’s team was too optimistic, declining to take on expert help and, particularly, refusing to allocate enough funding. “There was just this belief that artists would perform for free like they do in election campaigns for the good of the Labour party, but this has none of the intensity of a campaign,” one said.

Key figures in the party, led by Corbyn’s all-powerful chief of staff, Karie Murphy, have a fight on their hands to ensure the event is seen as a success. They secured a badly needed coup on Thursday when Clean Bandit were announced as headliners and ticket sales have picked up somewhat since. Up to then the best-known act had been the indie group The Magic Numbers. Well-known Corbyn supporters, the band were among those who appeared in support of the Labour leader at a rally in Birmingham where thousands gathered last June before the general election.

The difficulty in attracting high-profile acts had hampered ticket sales for months and sources say at one point in the spring Labour seriously considered cancelling the event. They decided not to after it was said at a crucial meeting that grime artist Stormzy had been booked. That turned out not to be the case, and while hasty attempts were made to secure his presence it did not prove possible. Reports that he had demanded a £100,000 fee have been denied by the party.

It even proved difficult for Labour to book party stalwart Billy Bragg due to his tour commitments; Bragg already had a gig booked in Kent on Saturday night.

Labour Live’s first acts are due on the main stage shortly after noon. There will be turns from local MPs David Lammy and Kate Osamor, the party’s general secretary Jennie Formby, and Corbyn himself, who is due on at 5.30pm after an introduction from the shadow chancellor, John McDonnell. Corbyn will be followed by The Magic Numbers, while “original Sex Pistol” Glen Matlock and Reverend and The Makers due on later.

Ticket prices were slashed from £35 to £10, while Corbyn got more involved in an attempt to recreate the 2017 election spirit. He told the Fire Brigades Union annual conference in Brighton last week: “We have new types of political events such as the Labour Live festival. It will have musicians, speakers, activists, trade unionists all coming together in one place … to learn from each other … but also to enjoy ourselves while reflecting on how far Labour has come as a movement.” Although not everybody in the audience was convinced.

A constant stream of leaks from inside Labour have not helped. Party sources said the festival’s drinks supplier – the Workers Beer Company – was refusing to supply beer kegs as it didn’t think there would be enough people to justify them. Organisers were said to have “gone to war” with the company, though it remains to be seen whether revellers will be served draft beer or bottles and cans.

Event costs could be as high as £1.4m, though the exact figure is a closely guarded secret and will not be known until the event is over. Insiders at Unite and Labour have said the trade union is underwriting most of the costs, though neither the party nor the union will comment.

Unite’s general secretary, Len McCluskey, is due to appear at the festival’s “solidarity tent” for People’s Question Time, while his union is also sponsoring a hip-hop karaoke event, challenging attendees to “prove you are better at karaoke than they are!”, and an ice cream van, which will carry the slogan “Ice cream lovers of the world – unite” and play a jingle version of The Red Flag.

A Labour spokesperson said that the party “couldn’t say right now” whether it would repeat Labour Live in the future. “We thought it worth trying as Glastonbury isn’t on this year. We’ll see how it goes.”

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That delusion. :datass:

You just know there’s going to be Trump-esque crowd photos of a half empty building come Monday.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by Hypes » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:28 pm

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JezFest warm up act :datass:

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by Lex-Man » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:30 am

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He's going for an upskirt.

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by captain red dog » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:30 am

Hexx wrote:

twitter.com/b3ta/status/1007697436062691328


Absolutely incredible :lol:

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by Return_of_the_STAR » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:12 am

Having read why Chope objected yesterday I understand his reasoning. To have only 20 odd MPs listen to the reading of a bill and vote it into law isn’t right.

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by Moggy » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:42 am

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Having read why Chope objected yesterday I understand his reasoning. To have only 20 odd MPs listen to the reading of a bill and vote it into law isn’t right.


I am sure that’s his reasoning now, after this has blown up in his face.

His voting history though suggests that he did it because he is an arsehole of the highest order. A homophobic, misogynistic dinosaur that delights in scuppering bills designed to help women and minorities.

If he felt so strongly about stopping bills being passed by so few MPs, he’d be in Parliament doing this on a regular basis. But nope, he decided that the time to make a stand was to shout “object!” at a bill that was there to stop people sticking cameras up ladies skirts.

He can pretend all he likes that it was a protest at a lack of parliamentary scrutiny, but very few people are going to be fooled by that.

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by more heat than light » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:49 am

Moggy wrote:If he felt so strongly about stopping bills being passed by so few MPs, he’d be in Parliament doing this on a regular basis.


As much as I'd love for him to be a massive pervert, apparently this is actually the case.

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by Hypes » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:10 am

I watched the video, and someone shouts object to the previous law being read out, so it would appear to be a regularly used procedure for more debate

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by Moggy » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:42 am

more heat than light wrote:
Moggy wrote:If he felt so strongly about stopping bills being passed by so few MPs, he’d be in Parliament doing this on a regular basis.


As much as I'd love for him to be a massive pervert, apparently this is actually the case.


I’m happy to be proved wrong, but he only appears to do it for arsehole reasons. Hillsborough, the Turing pardon wild animals in circuses and now upskirting.

He might use the pretence of not liking private member bills, but I think that’s an excuse.

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by more heat than light » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:29 pm

Moggy wrote:
more heat than light wrote:
Moggy wrote:If he felt so strongly about stopping bills being passed by so few MPs, he’d be in Parliament doing this on a regular basis.


As much as I'd love for him to be a massive pervert, apparently this is actually the case.


I’m happy to be proved wrong, but he only appears to do it for arsehole reasons. Hillsborough, the Turing pardon wild animals in circuses and now upskirting.

He might use the pretence of not liking private member bills, but I think that’s an excuse.


Yeah, but if he's only objecting when literally every other member of the house agrees, it's likely to be for arsehole reasons. Believe me, I don't want to defend the guy, he's likely a chode of unimaginable proportions, but in this instance I do believe he's doing it for those reasons rather than because he likes to go around taking photos up girls skirts.

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by Grumpy David » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:32 pm

I'm surprised it isn't already a criminal act to upskirt someone?

Surely it comes under some form of voyeurism / sexual assault?

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by Moggy » Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:45 pm

more heat than light wrote:
Moggy wrote:
more heat than light wrote:
Moggy wrote:If he felt so strongly about stopping bills being passed by so few MPs, he’d be in Parliament doing this on a regular basis.


As much as I'd love for him to be a massive pervert, apparently this is actually the case.


I’m happy to be proved wrong, but he only appears to do it for arsehole reasons. Hillsborough, the Turing pardon wild animals in circuses and now upskirting.

He might use the pretence of not liking private member bills, but I think that’s an excuse.


Yeah, but if he's only objecting when literally every other member of the house agrees, it's likely to be for arsehole reasons. Believe me, I don't want to defend the guy, he's likely a chode of unimaginable proportions, but in this instance I do believe he's doing it for those reasons rather than because he likes to go around taking photos up girls skirts.


Oh I wasn’t suggesting he actually took photos up girls skirts (although I bet his hard drive is interesting), just that’s he’s a monumental prick that doesn’t care about women and minority rights.

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by KK » Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:14 pm

Just some of the action from Labour Live:

twitter.com/rosskempsell/status/1007985034874294272


twitter.com/ironduke_1815/status/1007987028888313858


twitter.com/lolabourlive/status/1007983634714853378


twitter.com/psychedelicpil/status/1007976867478036481


twitter.com/kurtisssprosser/status/1007968445080666113


twitter.com/bendalafem/status/1007971893130022913


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by Grumpy David » Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:22 pm

:slol: It looks so dead.


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