Politics Thread 5

[captain red dog]

Not sure whether a committee chair is the authority on this, I know there have been recent studies that have found the UK to be the second most powerful nation behind the US:

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/new-stu ... try-world/

That said, if Brexit does reduce our global military threat then that's a good thing in my opinion as we have been using our military power far too frequently and carelessly at the expense of thousands of innocent lives.

[Moggy]

"Britain is no longer a 'tier one' military power"

Julian Lewis, Chair of the UK’s defence committee told Business Insider that he’s now concerned about whether May will be able to properly fund the military after the NHS pledge.

"I am not won over … by this jargon of calling it a 'tier one' military power… What I’m much more concerned about is whether Theresa May will be able to give defence the money it needs," he said, citing a "whole" of over £4.9 billion in the defence budget.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/britain-n ... say-2018-6

Having a superior military and being able to press the red button killing millions was one of her campaign pledges It doesn't bode well for the Brexit Armada and our New British Empire dreams

In her defence it's probably just another case of a government department putting on pressure for additional funding (especially now she has caved on the NHS). Guns are big business and I imagine military contractors see it as a chance to earn more dollar $$$

I think de arming the post Brexit UK would be a relief to the rest of the world.

How are we going to restore the Empire after Brexit unless we have a decent military?

[Errkal]

"Britain is no longer a 'tier one' military power"

Julian Lewis, Chair of the UK’s defence committee told Business Insider that he’s now concerned about whether May will be able to properly fund the military after the NHS pledge.

"I am not won over … by this jargon of calling it a 'tier one' military power… What I’m much more concerned about is whether Theresa May will be able to give defence the money it needs," he said, citing a "whole" of over £4.9 billion in the defence budget.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/britain-n ... say-2018-6

Having a superior military and being able to press the red button killing millions was one of her campaign pledges It doesn't bode well for the Brexit Armada and our New British Empire dreams

In her defence it's probably just another case of a government department putting on pressure for additional funding (especially now she has caved on the NHS). Guns are big business and I imagine military contractors see it as a chance to earn more dollar $$$

I think de arming the post Brexit UK would be a relief to the rest of the world.

How are we going to restore the Empire after Brexit unless we have a decent military?

The countries will just come back! They know everything was better then and India needs us more than we need them!

[Hypes]

As long as she's still going to nuke Pyongyang [/gammon]

[Saint of Killers]

Ukip has allowed a trio of social media activists linked to the alt-right to join the party.

The arrival of Paul Joseph Watson, Mark Meechan – better known to YouTube viewers as Count Dankula – and Carl Benjamin, who posts videos as Sargon of Akkad, will alarm some senior Ukip members already concerned at the struggling party’s direction under Gerard Batten.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... into-party

strawberry floating hell.

[Lex-Man]

Ukip has allowed a trio of social media activists linked to the alt-right to join the party.

The arrival of Paul Joseph Watson, Mark Meechan – better known to YouTube viewers as Count Dankula – and Carl Benjamin, who posts videos as Sargon of Akkad, will alarm some senior Ukip members already concerned at the struggling party’s direction under Gerard Batten.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... into-party

strawberry floating hell.

Surely at this point they're just hastening the demise of UKIP.

[Squinty]

Weirdly, I was just reading about Sargon of Akkad today. Sounds like one of those wankers that says controversial things and gets money for it.

[Tineash]

Racists join the party for racists. Simple stuff.

[Skarjo]

Ukip has allowed a trio of social media activists linked to the alt-right to join the party.

The arrival of Paul Joseph Watson, Mark Meechan – better known to YouTube viewers as Count Dankula – and Carl Benjamin, who posts videos as Sargon of Akkad, will alarm some senior Ukip members already concerned at the struggling party’s direction under Gerard Batten.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... into-party

strawberry floating hell.

Sounds like a match made in heaven.

Get Stefan Molyneux on there and the Four Horseman of fragile white male snowflakes are complete.

“But.... but... muh race realism!”

[<]:^D]

Sargon of Akkad would be funny if he wasnt spouting vile things
he's the archetypal fat neckbeard nerd from school who is now a twisted pseudo-intellectual banana split

[Moggy]

Racists join the party for racists. Simple stuff.

[KK]

Country split down the middle on defense spending, though interestingly those that would need healthcare the most (over 65s) think it should be spent on the military instead. And UKIPers appear to think we should just spend it all on defense:

[Errkal]

Hey look at that old people are aggressive dicks again, whereas young people are more tolerant and want to spend money on important stuff like education.

[KK]

Though some of those 65+ will have lived or been impacted by World War 2, so that's probably having an impact on their mentality somewhat as well.

[Drumstick]

It's crazy. The older generations are going to be in need of quality healthcare far more than us young folk; yet they don't seem to care about it.

Probably because they've made themselves a nice little nest egg renting out their third home at 150% of the going market rate and thus can just afford to go private whenever necessary.

[Rex Kramer]

It's probably because the older generation have some misguided notion that we're still a power on the international stage.

[Errkal]

It's probably because the older generation have some misguided notion that we're still a power on the international stage.

They also see being all powerful on the international stage as an important measure of success. It doesn't matter if people are struggling at home as long as we can kick the gooseberry fool out of that country over there.

[captain red dog]

Hmm maybe it's because the older generation have lived through more unstable times than now, when a strong military was a necessity. Either way, I don't like the way these reports have tended to try and divide the generations recently. Age really shouldn't be a factor when it comes to taxation for health care. That sounds like a slippery slope.

[KK]

The younger generation are also going to be more idealistic, the percentage gradually creeping up the older you get. It's the same with party affiliation. I bet if you were to ask a large section of old Tory voters today who they voted for when they were 18 they'd say Liberal Democrat.

[Moggy]

Over 65s love the armed forces so it’s not much of a shock.

It’ll be interesting as we get older how the views of old people change. Current 65 year olds were born in the early 50s, the summer of love hippies are now pensioners, how much of the experience of being young in the 60s/70s is going to creep through into the thinking of the elderly?