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Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:46 pm
by Moggy
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His full name is Richard Grosvenor Plunkett-Ernle-Erle-Drax.


:lol:

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:54 pm
by Qikz
Kemi ignoring about 200-300 years of our history there to make that statement.

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:27 pm
by BID0

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:51 pm
by DML
So weird how they keep doubling down and doubling down and doubling down on the same tactics over and over again and not once consider 'hang on a sec, maybe we should soften up a touch'? Its getting them absolutely nowhere, I think they still think its 2016.

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:55 pm
by Moggy
DML wrote:So weird how they keep doubling down and doubling down and doubling down on the same tactics over and over again and not once consider 'hang on a sec, maybe we should soften up a touch'? Its getting them absolutely nowhere, I think they still think its 2016.


I've thought that before. We all know Tories don't give a gooseberry fool about anybody else, but just from a self preservation point of view, you'd think they'd look at how things are going and think to themselves "hmm, maybe a few more of us would keep our jobs if we actually did something for ordinary people".

But, nope. They just keep doubling down on their cruelty. They are utterly convinced that if they are just a bit more mean to migrants, the disabled and trans people then the voters will forget the state of the country and come rushing back to them.

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:00 pm
by Oblomov Boblomov
The obstinate belligerence of it winds me up. You can (unfortunately) be a racist banana split who thinks slavery was great, whatever, but why do you then also need to pretend that it didn't play an enormous role in the development and prosperity of the UK? Do they think that if they admit it, they'll lose some imaginary points on their twat card, eventually leading to them having to admit that slavery and therefore the UK was bad, actually?

Wankers!

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:08 pm
by Moggy
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:The obstinate belligerence of it winds me up. You can (unfortunately) be a racist banana split who thinks slavery was great, whatever, but why do you then also need to pretend that it didn't play an enormous role in the development and prosperity of the UK? Do they think that if they admit it, they'll lose some imaginary points on their twat card, eventually leading to them having to admit that slavery and therefore the UK was bad, actually?

Wankers!


Just the figures paid to slave owners should be proof enough of just how profitable it was.

How much more it is worth exactly is contentious. Normally you would just look at price inflation—how much more expensive things are to buy over time, which in this case would make a £20 million loan back then worth around £2.4 billion today.

But people’s incomes have changed at a faster rate than prices have over this long period, and the economy has grown at a faster rate still. In 1833, for example, the UK government’s total expenditure was £48.8 million, so the £20 million was around 40% of that.

This matters because, for example, an investment made in the 1800s may appreciate much faster than general prices do, so it would be worth much more now than is shown by inflation.

Depending on what you take into account, £20 million back then could be worth around £17 billion today if you look at how people’s incomes have grown, or even over £100 billion if you look at the size of the economy per person.

https://fullfact.org/economy/slavery-ab ... -act-loan/


The slave owners were paid the equivalent of 40% of the entire country's government expenditure.

But, yeah, I'm sure an industry that valuable had nothing to do with the prosperity and development of the UK.

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:12 pm
by Oblomov Boblomov
Moggy wrote:
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:The obstinate belligerence of it winds me up. You can (unfortunately) be a racist banana split who thinks slavery was great, whatever, but why do you then also need to pretend that it didn't play an enormous role in the development and prosperity of the UK? Do they think that if they admit it, they'll lose some imaginary points on their twat card, eventually leading to them having to admit that slavery and therefore the UK was bad, actually?

Wankers!


Just the figures paid to slave owners should be proof enough of just how profitable it was.

How much more it is worth exactly is contentious. Normally you would just look at price inflation—how much more expensive things are to buy over time, which in this case would make a £20 million loan back then worth around £2.4 billion today.

But people’s incomes have changed at a faster rate than prices have over this long period, and the economy has grown at a faster rate still. In 1833, for example, the UK government’s total expenditure was £48.8 million, so the £20 million was around 40% of that.

This matters because, for example, an investment made in the 1800s may appreciate much faster than general prices do, so it would be worth much more now than is shown by inflation.

Depending on what you take into account, £20 million back then could be worth around £17 billion today if you look at how people’s incomes have grown, or even over £100 billion if you look at the size of the economy per person.

https://fullfact.org/economy/slavery-ab ... -act-loan/


The slave owners were paid the equivalent of 40% of the entire country's government expenditure.

But, yeah, I'm sure an industry that valuable had nothing to do with the prosperity and development of the UK.


Sounds like you're forgetting to include pashun, sovruntey and blitz spirit in your calculations there, you woke remoaner :roll:.

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:38 pm
by Hexx
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:The obstinate belligerence of it winds me up. You can (unfortunately) be a racist banana split who thinks slavery was great, whatever, but why do you then also need to pretend that it didn't play an enormous role in the development and prosperity of the UK? Do they think that if they admit it, they'll lose some imaginary points on their twat card, eventually leading to them having to admit that slavery and therefore the UK was bad, actually?

Wankers!


Bang on the money, You can't admit history historical elements were bad.
Because it's an entire separate front of the culture war. The suggestion of statues being removed, the renaming of streets/buildings honouring salve owners etc, the "wokification" of the National Trust by inlcuding history and context.

If you re-write history so that there are no issues then it's becomes "lefty wokiest social justice warriors" trying to re-write history and undermind the proud history of the Empire.

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:39 pm
by rinks
Huw Edwards leaves BBC on medical advice.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-68873266

I'd forgotten he was still an employee.

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:47 pm
by Lex-Man
Sunak is going on about the UK's sick note culture but apparently we're below the OECD average.

https://oecdstatistics.blog/2023/02/02/ ... s-compare/

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:02 pm
by Tomous
Lex-Man wrote:Sunak is going on about the UK's sick note culture but apparently we're below the OECD average.

https://oecdstatistics.blog/2023/02/02/ ... s-compare/



Sunak comes up with his policies based on vibes, not something as woke as facts and statistics

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:16 pm
by Moggy
Tomous wrote:
Lex-Man wrote:Sunak is going on about the UK's sick note culture but apparently we're below the OECD average.

https://oecdstatistics.blog/2023/02/02/ ... s-compare/



Sunak comes up with his policies based on vibes, not something as woke as facts and statistics


Sunak knows it's all about hard work. You have to really put in the time and effort to marry your way into a billionaire family.

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:20 pm
by Tomous
Especially when you only come from humble multi-million beginnings.

Sunak :wub:

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:21 pm
by Moggy
Tomous wrote:Especially when you only come from humble multi-million beginnings.

Sunak :wub:


Hard graft like that means he deserves to enjoy his heated swimming pool. :wub:

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:07 pm
by Zilnad
Moggy wrote:
Tomous wrote:Especially when you only come from humble multi-million beginnings.

Sunak :wub:


Hard graft like that means he deserves to enjoy his heated swimming pool. :wub:


Let him boil in it.

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:51 pm
by Squinty
If they lower stamp duty, part of me will be happy for those following, part of me will be strawberry floating raging :lol:

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:54 pm
by Vermilion
Lex-Man wrote:Sunak is going on about the UK's sick note culture but apparently we're below the OECD average.

https://oecdstatistics.blog/2023/02/02/ ... s-compare/


Some of the papers today were already wheeling out the 'scrounger' rhetoric and smearing people with health problems thanks to Rishi's bs.

Boils my piss. :x

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:01 pm
by Moggy
Vermilion wrote:
Boils my piss. :x


Boiling piss is no reason to not go to work :capnscotty:

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:59 pm
by Garth

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