PS3 really starting to overtake 360 as a media device?

cooldawn wrote:

consolegaming wrote:

KKLEIN wrote:It's down to personal preference at the end of the day.

...but then pgr4 owns any ps3 racer.

So wrong. PGR3 > PGR4 and there's a PlayStation3 racing game that owns both, period.

consolegaming wrote:I think the 360 has more depth in terms of AAA exclusives as the moment, but to be honest many of the big hitters are multiplatform anyway.

Thats the great thing about the XBOX360, it's come out of the traps with a slew of good exclusives in quick succession which has left the PlayStation3 trailing behind somewhat so it's about time Sony is getting it together.

I dunno, the added weather effects made pgr4 a little better, the full gt5 may own the pgr series but lets wait and see...

The PS3 is getting better and in terms of AAA exclusives it is getting better, but personally i feel far too many of the 360 exclusives are fps or third person shooter focused.

but personally i feel far too many of the 360 exclusives are fps or third person shooter focused.

Yeah those bloody space marines in Beautiful Katamari, Kameo, Viva Pinata, Banjo, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Dead Rising & Amped 3 prove your point.

Rik wrote:

but personally i feel far too many of the 360 exclusives are fps or third person shooter focused.

Yeah those bloody space marines in Beautiful Katamari, Kameo, Viva Pinata, Banjo, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Dead Rising & Amped 3 prove your point.

Seriously though, is that it? is this the 360s much better software range(myth) ? i doubt if i had a 360 i would even want most of those anyway

consolegaming wrote:

cooldawn wrote:

consolegaming wrote:

KKLEIN wrote:It's down to personal preference at the end of the day.

...but then pgr4 owns any ps3 racer.

So wrong. PGR3 > PGR4 and there's a PlayStation3 racing game that owns both, period.

consolegaming wrote:I think the 360 has more depth in terms of AAA exclusives as the moment, but to be honest many of the big hitters are multiplatform anyway.

Thats the great thing about the XBOX360, it's come out of the traps with a slew of good exclusives in quick succession which has left the PlayStation3 trailing behind somewhat so it's about time Sony is getting it together.

I dunno, the added weather effects made pgr4 a little better, the full gt5 may own the pgr series but lets wait and see...

I didn't mean GT5P!

TYSON wrote:

Rik wrote:

but personally i feel far too many of the 360 exclusives are fps or third person shooter focused.

Yeah those bloody space marines in Beautiful Katamari, Kameo, Viva Pinata, Banjo, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Dead Rising & Amped 3 prove your point.

Seriously though, is that it? is this the 360s much better software range(myth) ? i doubt if i had a 360 i would even want most of those anyway

It's still better than the PS3 software library if you apply the same filter of no shooters, third or first person.


But it's got nothing to do with the machine or which company it's from. It's the games we're more concerned about, and the 360 without a doubt does have the most quality titles compared to the PS3. I just don't see why the PS3 must be better than the 360. The 360 isn't really better....but the games sure as hell perform better when you include multiplatform titles and there's a wider range of quality games.

The PS3 as a media device was ahead of the 360 the day it launched. Software-wise the 360 gooseberry fools all over it though. Blatently.

Mafro wrote:The PS3 as a media device was ahead of the 360 the day it launched. Software-wise the 360 ***** all over it though. Blatently.

$ilva $hadow wrote:

TYSON wrote:

Rik wrote:

but personally i feel far too many of the 360 exclusives are fps or third person shooter focused.

Yeah those bloody space marines in Beautiful Katamari, Kameo, Viva Pinata, Banjo, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Dead Rising & Amped 3 prove your point.

Seriously though, is that it? is this the 360s much better software range(myth) ? i doubt if i had a 360 i would even want most of those anyway

It's still better than the PS3 software library if you apply the same filter of no shooters, third or first person.

Again it's down to personal taste:
Warhawk, Ratchet & Clank, Siren, Folklore, Formula One, Motorstorm, PixelJunk Series (Eden, Racers, Monsters), Eye of Judgement, Singstar, Buzz, Heavenly Sword, SSHD...

This is for the PS3 fanboys who can't see that there isn't 360 fanboys here, but fans of awesome games:



360
Ninja Gaiden 2
Gears of War
Halo 3
Mass Effect
Forza Motorsport 2
Call of Duty 2
Burnout Revenge
Project Gotham Racing 3
Project Gotham Racing 4
Dead or Alive 4
Dead Rising
Need for Speed Most Wanted
Crackdown
Test Drive Unlimited
Hitman: Blood Money
Command & Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars
Saints Row
Condemned: Criminal Origins
Perfect Dark Zero
LEGO Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy
Tomb Raider Legend
Ace Combat 6
Bully Scholarship edition
Blue Dragon
Lost Odyssey
Eternal Sonata
Lara Croft Tomb Raider: Anniversary
Call of Juarez
Kameo
Dead Rising
Viva Pinata
Scene It



XBLA games
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Rez HD
Bomberman Live
Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo HD Remix
Prince of Persia Classic
Sonic The Hedgehog 2
Cloning Clyde
Braid
Uno
Alien Hominid HD
Assault Heroes
Metal Slug 3
Galaga Legions
Mutant Storm
Geometry Wars Evolved (or whatever it's called with its sequel or something)
Ridge Racer 6



Just take a look at that. No doubt I've missed a few games, but the range of games there is incredible. I may have listed a few games that are multiplatform but that's because I don't know if they're on the PS3. Now so what if there are quite a few shooters or third person shooters there. The software library is incredible, too much for anyone to be throwing Sony and the PS3 undue praise. You prefer Metal Gear Solid, Uncharted and Ratchet and Clank? GOOD FOR YOU. I like them all too, yet three games that are most thrown up in the face of....that list...is clearly just silly. Now here's the PS3 list below:




PS3
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
Ratchet and Clank: Tools of Destruction
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Uncharted: Drakes Fortune
Resistance Fall of Man (I included this game for it's online play, ignore the singleplayer, the same goes for Perfect Dark Zero, singleplayer = crap, multiplayer = great)
Warhawk
Motorstorm
Gran Turismo Prologue
Singstar
Siren Bloodcurse
Heavenly Sword


PSN

Super Stardust HD
Everyday Shooter
Pixeljunk Monsters
Pixeljunk Eden
Calling all Cars
Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection
Ridge Racer 7
Ratchet & Clank Future: Quest for Booty
Fl0w






Now the PSN titles there are great. I've listed only the good games, although I have padded out the list with Heavenly Sword which actually is rubbish. Just like I padded out the 360 list with Perfect Dark Zero since people on the forum swear by them. Same with Resistance. But gameplay mechanics of some games totally negates what Sony fanboys are bawing about the 360 not having games to their choices. Shooters aren't your choice cuz there's so many on the 360? Awww too bad, you probably think Resistance is rubbish then. Too many third person shooters on the 360 again? O dear, not again, cross off Metal Gear Solid 4 and Uncharted. Uncharted plays similarly to Gears of War with stop, pop and cover mechanics. Although Gears of War gets the shooting and taking cover done far better than Uncharted. Although Uncharted has better platforming mechanics. So you like platforming mechanics? You have Tomb Raider on the 360 as well as Kameo and Lego Star Wars 2. If you don't like the 360s shooters, first person or third person...you seriously need to stop whining about 360 fanboys....because by your own argument....Metal Gear Solid, Uncharted, Resistance and Warhawk should mean nothing to you.....O but WAIT! It's a personal preference thing. Yes right...I see. A personal preference...to like all those games on the PS3.....but not liking any of them on the 360 which has more of them....which get better reviews across the board. Warhawk? Seriously? The biggest pile of wank I've ever played. The PS3 has another upcoming MMO shooter like Warhawk, the realistic one. If you're going to praise something, start praising that instead. But still, it's your opinion, you prefer Warhawk. Eye of Judgement? .....I'm not even going to comment Satriales. Superstardust HD is similar mechanics to Geometry Wars, both of which I refuse to purchase but hey, whoever likes it....good for them. You like Folklore? Well I'm not listing it, it isn't getting great reviews at all. But still, it's amazing that Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon and Eternal Sonata are just brushed aside for another RPG which just happens to be on the PS3 but doesn't get scores that contend with the other three which are on the 360 coincidentally. Personal taste on that? Ok then.


And for the love of god....Heavenly Sword is mediocre. As mediocre as Viking. But STILL, it's your opinion and you prefer it so whatever. The argument still stands that the 360 has a larger range of software that is rated higher not just by critics but by gamers too.



Comparing the list, I can see where the 360s flaws lie. However I have yet to see a PS3 fanboy mention those flaws except use the same old lines "too many shooters, I don't like them, however I do prefer the PS3 shooters...honest. It's just a personal preference".



Conclusion? It's not really down to personal taste. So what if you bought the PS3, enjoy it....but don't close your minds to the other consoles when there's a great range of games on it. Don't start bawing either when no one praises Sony because nobody is praising Microsoft for anything except courting devs. Something Sony did with the PS2 era. We're praising the best games. I don't see why Consolegaming, Gspec, Deadfishuk and Satriales were whining on GR about not wanting to come here because there's too many 360 fanboys when they can't accept criticism, be willing to debate and want to go to another forum just to have PS3 fanboys back them up. That's why I love HSH. He'll argue his point....no he'll DEBATE his point, accept criticism, and state reasons as to why he believes he's right without outright lying or drawing things from Sony's PR machine and lies. Also he'll throw in the frequent "YOU'RE WRONG" but anyone could see he was joking, and waiting for a debate to start.


Don't forget that most of the multiplatform titles still perform better on the 360, bar three games: Call of Duty 4, Burnout Paradise, and Battlefield Bad Company. Those three perform almost exactly the same. And if it's down to personal taste and you want to play other games apart from those three, then I guess it's in your taste to like crap ports.

Doesn't this place have mods? The topic was concluded on the first reply. All I've seen since is wall-to-wall fanboy bullshit.

It's not wall to wall. It's BALLS to the wall.


No it doesn't have mods though. Sometimes it's fun to have some fanboy debates no? Argue a side, it's fun, it's a forum. Stop bawing, and have some fun.

Yeah, I'm just on a bit of a downer after expecting to learn something new from the advertised thread. "8 pages on the multimedia functions of the two consoles?" I thought, "There must be loads I don't know about"

If you want me to join in, though, I'll just say that by calling Warhawk the biggest pile of wank you've EVER played, you've either lived a very sheltered existence, or don't know gooseberry fool about games.

Probably the latter.

$ilvia $hadow: Without wanting to get into a huge debate (we're already completely off-topic) your list above is very biased. You include poor games in the 360 list (scene it :lol) then do a short list for the PS3 (leaving out the so called 'bad' games) and claim that even the short list is being padded out. You also put several multi-platform games in the 360 list but only exclusives in the ps3 one.

It's also interesting that he's grouped Folklore with 3 incredibly similar games that are nothing like it.

I think the best way to settle this argument is to look at the software for both consoles outside of your own personal biases, else we'll be here all day.

Over on Metacritic there are currently 439 Xbox 360 games and 194 PS3 games listed. The 360 definitely has the larger games library and I doubt many would dispute that, but how many of those games have received generally favourable reviews?

Let's take all those games averaging 75% and above in reviews for the purposes of this (that's all the games with green labels on Metacritic i.e. listed as having received "generally favourable reviews").
Well, there are 173 games that fit that description for Xbox 360, and 89 games for PS3. So it looks like the Xbox 360, going by reviews rather than forumite bias, has a higher number of generally good games currently available.

As for the variety among the generally good games on each console, let's have a look at how the FPS genre is represented among those 75% and above scoring games.
21 (12.1%) of the 173 generally favourably reviewed games on Xbox 360 are FPSs, while 11 (12.4%) of the 89 generally favourably reviewed games on PS3 are FPSs.

Personally, I think the PS3 is a better media device (the Blu-Ray player helps). However, I think the software side of the argument is certainly in the 360's favour. This could all change in the future of course, but for now, how about we all go back to our consoles and enjoy those 262 generally favourably reviewed games rather than wasting any more time arguing over this?

satriales wrote:$ilvia $hadow: Without wanting to get into a huge debate (we're already completely off-topic) your list above is very biased. You include poor games in the 360 list (scene it :lol) then do a short list for the PS3 (leaving out the so called 'bad' games) and claim that even the short list is being padded out. You also put several multi-platform games in the 360 list but only exclusives in the ps3 one.

Name calling haha, very funny. How nice, I bet if I was to do that you'd cry to a mod

But anyway I've included Scene It because it's gotten better reviews than Heavenly Sword has. Better than Eye of Judgement. But even if I remove some of the 360 titles....it far outdoes what the PS3 does. And I already apologised for maybe putting some multiplatform titles on the 360 list by mistake....PS3 fanboys can't see anything but what they want to see.


A sheltered life? Exit 12? Please. Warhawk is just alright. I've played my fair share of games on BOTH platforms. Unlike a few people here. I remember Satriales claiming on GR he doesn't have a 360 but has played some of the games...but barely a quarter of the list yet it's a personal preference to like everything including the chaff on the PS3.

Exit 12 wrote:It's also interesting that he's grouped Folklore with 3 incredibly similar games that are nothing like it.

Folklore is RPG.

Garth wrote:I think the best way to settle this argument is to look at the software for both consoles outside of your own personal biases, else we'll be here all day.

Over on Metacritic there are currently 439 Xbox 360 games and 194 PS3 games listed. The 360 definitely has the larger games library and I doubt many would dispute that, but how many of those games have received generally favourable reviews?

Let's take all those games averaging 75% and above in reviews for the purposes of this (that's all the games with green labels on Metacritic i.e. listed as having received "generally favourable reviews").
Well, there are 173 games that fit that description for Xbox 360, and 89 games for PS3. So it looks like the Xbox 360, going by reviews rather than forumite bias, has a higher number of generally good games currently available.

As for the variety among the generally good games on each console, let's have a look at how the FPS genre is represented among those 75% and above scoring games.
21 (12.1%) of the 173 generally favourably reviewed games on Xbox 360 are FPSs, while 11 (12.4%) of the 89 generally favourably reviewed games on PS3 are FPSs.

Personally, I think the PS3 is a better media device (the Blu-Ray player helps). However, I think the software side of the argument is certainly in the 360's favour. This could all change in the future of course, but for now, how about we all go back to our consoles and enjoy those 262 generally favourably reviewed games rather than wasting any more time arguing over this?

I think that's the best way to do it. But we're 360 fanboys regardless in their eyes. Nothing will show them otherwise. In their eyes there is only bias against them.

$ilva $hadow wrote:This is for the PS3 fanboys who can't see that there isn't 360 fanboys here, but fans of awesome games:

Don't forget that most of the multiplatform titles still perform better on the 360, bar three games: Call of Duty 4, Burnout Paradise, and Battlefield Bad Company. Those three perform almost exactly the same. And if it's down to personal taste and you want to play other games apart from those three, then I guess it's in your taste to like crap ports.

yeah, GTA4 and the rest on PS3 were 'crap ports', ok....

if you wanted an example of a stupidly biased fanboy then read your post

why have you listed Lego Star Wars 2? why would anyone want that when they can get the entires saga?

$ilva $hadow wrote:

satriales wrote:$ilvia $hadow: Without wanting to get into a huge debate (we're already completely off-topic) your list above is very biased. You include poor games in the 360 list (scene it :lol) then do a short list for the PS3 (leaving out the so called 'bad' games) and claim that even the short list is being padded out. You also put several multi-platform games in the 360 list but only exclusives in the ps3 one.

Name calling haha, very funny. How nice, I bet if I was to do that you'd cry to a mod

You're always making stuff up about me
Where did you get name calling from?

And could you also please add a quote to back up this false statement:

Satriales were whining on GR about not wanting to come here because there's too many 360 fanboys when they can't accept criticism, be willing to debate and want to go to another forum just to have PS3 fanboys back them up.

I never said anything of the sort.