Terrorist incident outside Parliament

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by KK » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:31 pm

Saint of Killers wrote:The only way they can do anything is if the government increases intelligence services and police budgets (my thinking being they'd then be able to keep more people of interest under surveillance), but even that isn't a guaranteed way of stopping known people from doing this kind of gooseberry fool.

It takes around 30 people in the police and intelligence communities to keep just 1 person on 24 hour surveillance. It's an impossible task.
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PostRe: Terrorist incident outside Parliament
by Squinty » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:32 pm

Anybody who uses social media to circulate pictures of victims is just helping to create fear, which was ultimately one of the intended goals of the perpetrator.

I understand the need for these things to be reported, but photos/video being circulated is beyond intrusive and counter-productive. Personally, I would not want my image to be sent throughout the world if I was hurt in something like this. It's completely disrespectful to the individuals choice.
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PostRe: Terrorist incident outside Parliament
by Tomous » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:43 pm

KKLEIN wrote:
Saint of Killers wrote:The only way they can do anything is if the government increases intelligence services and police budgets (my thinking being they'd then be able to keep more people of interest under surveillance), but even that isn't a guaranteed way of stopping known people from doing this kind of gooseberry fool.

It takes around 30 people in the police and intelligence communities to keep just 1 person on 24 hour surveillance. It's an impossible task.


My knowledge of counter terrorism and the intelligence community is derived almost entirely from TV shows like Homeland, 24 etc but 30 people to track one person for 24 hours seems excessive to me
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PostRe: Terrorist incident outside Parliament
by KK » Thu Mar 23, 2017 1:29 pm

It's actually 20-25, my mistake.
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by OrangeRakoon » Thu Mar 23, 2017 1:49 pm

Any idea how that actually breaks down, out of interest? I'm guessing physical surveillance is at least two people per shift with three 8 hour shifts a day, then similar for phone/internet surveillance. Then there is probably a ton of record keeping/bureaucracy?
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by Memento Mori » Thu Mar 23, 2017 2:26 pm

OrangeRakoon wrote:Any idea how that actually breaks down, out of interest? I'm guessing physical surveillance is at least two people per shift with three 8 hour shifts a day, then similar for phone/internet surveillance. Then there is probably a ton of record keeping/bureaucracy?

5 person team on the ground minimum is what I heard from a former policeman on TV today.
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PostRe: Terrorist incident outside Parliament
by Gandalf » Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:19 pm

Third victim named, Kurt Cochran from Utah. He was touring Europe with his wife as part of 25 year wedding anniversary. :(

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Says on Sky News his wife is in hospital with a few broken bones, not one of the critical victims.

The second victim named Aysha Frade, was walking on the bridge to collect her two daughters, aged 8 and 11, from school. :( :(
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PostRe: Terrorist incident outside Parliament
by Moggy » Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:36 pm

Khalid Masood has been named as the man who attacked Westminster on Wednesday, killing at least three people and injuring around 40 more.

Born in Kent, the 52-year-old was known to MI5 and is understood to have acted alone. He was investigated “some years ago” as part of a historic investigation into violent extremism but was a peripheral figure.

His first conviction was in November 1983 for criminal damage and his last conviction was in December 2003 for possession of a knife.

Masood was not the subject of any current investigations and there was no prior intelligence about his intent to mount a terrorist attack.
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PostRe: Terrorist incident outside Parliament
by Preezy » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:09 pm

Well hopefully he'll rot in jail for the rest of his days, assuming he doesn't die from his injuries. Piece of gooseberry fool.
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PostRe: Terrorist incident outside Parliament
by Squinty » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:21 pm

He's dead Jim.
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PostRe: Terrorist incident outside Parliament
by Preezy » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:23 pm

Ah, I thought he survived? Oh well, enjoy oblivion :toot:
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PostRe: Terrorist incident outside Parliament
by Somebody Else's Problem » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:40 pm

Preezy wrote:Oh well, enjoy oblivion :toot:


Nah, someone like him deserves Two Worlds, instead.
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PostRe: Terrorist incident outside Parliament
by Ironhide » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:58 pm

Somebody Else's Problem wrote:
Preezy wrote:Oh well, enjoy oblivion :toot:


Nah, someone like him deserves Two Worlds, instead.


:lol:
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PostRe: Terrorist incident outside Parliament
by Meep » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:25 pm

Already certain elements in the press are calling for more draconian policing and a complete removal of any kind of privacy. They don't even pause to show some respect to the victims before using their bodies as a means to advance authoritarian attitudes. Disgusting. Of course, they probably know that if they wait for cooler heads to prevail then reason will always triumph over sensationalism.

I have been largely hearted by the response of the public to the attack. We will not be easily cowed by these kinds of atrocities.
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PostRe: Terrorist incident outside Parliament
by captain red dog » Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:57 pm

The BBC are doing a nice little puff piece with Teresa May's stale and cold speech last night cut over images of Londoners going about their business today. I'm pretty much disgusted by all the media coverage of this.

Edit: Laura Kuenssberg has such an irritating reporting style.
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PostRe: Terrorist incident outside Parliament
by Snowcannon » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:58 pm

One good thing the BBC have done is not opening up HYS. God knows what bile the usual bigots would come up if they had
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PostRe: Terrorist incident outside Parliament
by Dblock » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:23 pm

strawberry floated up.
''Saying it's because I was controlling you and making you sad when actually I just asked you to wear some trousers'' :lol: :lol:
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PostRe: Terrorist incident outside Parliament
by Grumpy David » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:31 am



At first I thought DM was asking me to Google "The Terrorists' friend" then I realised they were blaming Google. The wheel, the Terrorists' friend.

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PostRe: Terrorist incident outside Parliament
by Rex Kramer » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:36 am

Surely even the dim witted blue rinse brigade could see the screamingly obvious flaw in that argument?
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PostRe: Terrorist incident outside Parliament
by Errkal » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:39 am

Also, what kind if retard needs a manual on how to use a car for mass murder. It's very simple, you don't don't it because you aren't a banana split, not because you don't know how.

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