ResetEra - sold for $4.55 million

KK wrote:I think this warrants a 200 page thread on whether using the term "refugees" in this topic devalues the plight of actual refugees.

Gafugees.

Green Gecko wrote:
Lucien wrote:
Qikz wrote:I think before there was never anything super concrete against him. This time there were multiple witnesses and a statement from the person who was assaulted as well. He can't hide form it this time.

I doubt this guy talked about assault with moderators on his forum. They're probably leaving because they don't want to moderate on a forum possibly run by an assaulter. Where did you read there were witnesses btw?

tbh it's hard not to assume you're assuming a default defensive stance due to a "lack of evidence" because a man has been publicly accused of unwelcome sexual advances / exposure. And that's because it's a man that by most accounts I have seen prior to this is not a particularly great person. Can I ask what your personal motivations are being apparently aggrieved that a random internet overlord has been accused but not proven of wrong doing, i.e. trial by Internet?

And have you considered that the exact same thing is probably happening to the woman involved in a far more egregious manner?

There are already hints of "unfairness" in what has happened to the guy's big forum lordship judging by your tone, I just find that unusual, just like how pretty much any man accused of sexual assault is protected by this idea of lack of evidence, and that nothing is to believed without forensic evidence or something, because generally, women are not to be listened to. It's really hard not to read that into your posts in at least a contrarian manner and I see that elsewhere and personally it makes me a bit uncomfortable. I mean seriously, posting revenge porn? Is it that hard to believe the same person might act like this "irl"?

Maybe you're just indulging skepticism which I can relate to as I do that a lot, I'm asking because I find it hard myself not to be disgusted by these kinds of accusations, especially by people with a high profile and in a position of social/media responsibility.

The accusations were made privately on Facebook by the way but then screenshoted and then disseminated that way through the usual channels, forums, image sharing etc.

IMO character matters a lot. Here we have someone with a history of similar offences and an accuser with no apparent reason to lie and, I'm guessing, no history of doing so. People talk about 'not guilty until proven' but the same applies to those who make accusations; most people are fundamentally honest so you must respect their claims unless there is proof otherwise. The fact that he has chosen to attempt to shut down discussion doesn't help his case either.

What would the benefit be to the woman of making this up as well? She's hardly going to be getting on Good Morning America or whatever from the accusation, evilore's hardly a household name.

Green Gecko wrote:tbh it's hard not to assume you're assuming a default defensive stance due to a "lack of evidence" because a man has been publicly accused of unwelcome sexual advances / exposure. And that's because it's a man that by most accounts I have seen prior to this is not a particularly great person. Can I ask what your personal motivations are being apparently aggrieved that a random internet overlord has been accused but not proven of wrong doing, i.e. trial by Internet?...

I don't know this guy on GAF nor his history and, yeah, the accusations sound shocking. I can kinda see where Lucien is coming from, though - it feels like the person is being judged as guilty on the basis of an accusation posted on the internet. I don't feel that it's a case of having no belief in the woman who has raised the issue, Gecko, and of course all issues of this kind need to be promptly and effectively investigated. Even so, it would seem unusual that the victim of such a shocking incident would feel that social media would be the first path of getting appropriate action taken.

Just to be clear, I am not in any way supporting or condoning the type of behaviour described. I am just a little hesitant to make assumptions.

His continued silence and shutting down of the site is speaking volumes IMO.

Dangerblade wrote:
Karl wrote:
Dangerblade wrote:Bu-bu-but the dozen mods stepped down due to their personal details being leaked guys

Oh, I didn't know that. To hell with them then.

That's just the official line from Modbot, I'm sure the actual mods would say differently but are just keeping quiet for now.

twitter.com/JamesAdamWynne/status/921859328243654658

Never used Neogaf but from reading through this thread it sounds like an awful place.

Alvin Flummux wrote:
Dangerblade wrote:
Karl wrote:
Dangerblade wrote:Bu-bu-but the dozen mods stepped down due to their personal details being leaked guys

Oh, I didn't know that. To hell with them then.

That's just the official line from Modbot, I'm sure the actual mods would say differently but are just keeping quiet for now.

twitter.com/JamesAdamWynne/status/921859328243654658

I'm glad it's looking like they did step down to protest Evilore. I thought for a bit there that maybe they were being indicted for being creeps as well.

I'm not following this too closely so it's hard to keep up with the drama.

darksideby182 wrote:Never used Neogaf but from reading through this thread it sounds like an awful place.

It sounds like a totalitarian nightmare of a forum, TBH.

RE the presumption of guilt, obviously I wouldn’t call for him to be locked up without due process but I think for the purpose of discussing him regarding the running of a video game site and on the balance of probabilities, based on the likelihood of this woman making up the story and looking at past behaviour, it’s not a massive stretch to believe her version of events.

At the very least, he’s a strawberry floating weirdo who has committed multiple offences in the past with revenge porn sharing and sexual assault so I doubt many tears will be shed at his apparent downfall. Which does, perhaps erroneously, suggest he was in a prominent enough position to actually experience much of a fall.

He's openly admitted to previous sexual assaults, and there were several posts on Neogaf before the shutdown of witnesses to this one, including the victims boyfriend giving Evilore a bit of an arse kicking for the attempt.

Lucien

what if she lying tho

Rocsteady wrote:what if she lying tho

itd maek u fink x

Rocsteady wrote:what if she lying tho

Hes still an ass. Good riddance.

Rocsteady wrote:what if she lying tho

She probably is, you’d make billions selling your story about the owner of a gaming forum. :slol:

Moggy wrote:
Rocsteady wrote:what if she lying tho

She probably is, you’d make billions selling your story about the owner of a gaming forum.

Gecko better watch his back :nod:

Actual EviLore quotes:

At one point in a bar a girl who didn’t speak any English came up to me and started flirting heavily, then went straight into asking me to buy her a drink, as Itxaka translated when I didn’t know what the hell was going on. I laughed, because drinks here were all of two Euros, but consented and then grabbed her ass hard to show that I wasn’t being taken advantage of, and she thought better of treating me as a mark and left without taking her drink.

Some women require you to be direct, some don't, therefore you should always be direct unless you don't mind losing out on everyone in the former category.

Failing at a social encounter is basically the least meaningful and impactful thing that can possibly happen to you. After all, there are 7 billion people on this planet, endlessly refreshing. You'll never run out of opportunities.

Friend zoning when you don't want to be friend zoned happens entirely when you're just not willing to take the chance, make the attempt, and accept the outcome. But you don't get anything you want out of not taking the chance, and making the leap and failing just means you have closure and can move on.

I think some women just assume that all men are interested in them, at least for casual sex. Pain in the ass sometimes. I'm physically pushing you away from me! It's hard to be more overt without making you cry!

Moralizing sexuality is for archaic prudes and religious delusions

She'd probably fall in love with me, and serious pain/crying and dead fish syndrome are massive turn-offs during sex and would be expected of a first timer. Plus, with that lumpface going on, I'd probably have a hard time kissing her without a lot of alcohol in my system. Doesn't sound like a fun way to spend an evening, and I've had two dates this week with far prettier girls. No go, sorry, charity prostitute virgin girl.

Not difficult to see his mindset there :lol:

Sounds like the type of guy who continually refers to himself as an "Alpha male" and to others as "Beta males," and probably uses the word "cuck" a lot.

He reads like the ultimate combination of a massive try-hard nerd who's discovered pick up artists. No idea what the last paragraph is on about.

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