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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Mafro » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:24 pm

I like how in that Patreon post linked in that thread he went out of his way to name and give thanks to a ton of games journalists and reviewers apart from his ex-Kinda Funny colleagues.

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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Fade » Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:49 pm

Well I don't agree with everything he says, or think he's a great person, but I can respect his opinions.

He can get pretty fired up when talking about politics but I think most people do.

People are a bit too quick to slag people off who they don't agree with these days.

I've never voted Conservative in my life and I see crude anti conservative stuff on Facebook all the time, and I find it pathetic.

Wow, someone said something you don't agree with, either debate with them and try and convince them why they are wrong, with facts, or grow up and accept not everyone shares your views.

Slagging them off is just childish.

And with regards to kind of funny.
I watch some of their stuff, but a lot of their videos are just a massive circle jerk. I can understand why Colin would have wanted to leave. They're literally just doing IGN content but independently. At least when Colin was there made them a bit different. Now they're IGN: Patreon Version.

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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Lagamorph » Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:54 pm


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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Herdanos » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:00 pm

Fade wrote:Wow, someone said something you don't agree with, either debate with them and try and convince them why they are wrong, with facts, or grow up and accept not everyone shares your views.

Slagging them off is just childish.



This might work if your dispute is what console to buy, or which crisps are best.

Not if one side is advocating genocide, though.

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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Fade » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:34 pm

romeo G. Detlev Jr. wrote:
Fade wrote:Wow, someone said something you don't agree with, either debate with them and try and convince them why they are wrong, with facts, or grow up and accept not everyone shares your views.

Slagging them off is just childish.



This might work if your dispute is what console to buy, or which crisps are best.

Not if one side is advocating genocide, though.

Pretty sure Colin didn't do that.

Either way, slagging them off isn't going to do a thing. Especially if you don't do it to their face. Just massages your own ego.

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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Green Gecko » Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:34 pm

Fade should offer anti-slander defence forces to game-related online personalities.

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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Mafro » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:17 pm

Apparently they've restored all of the Off Topic stuff now (obviously minus anything relating to Evilore being rapey or Amir0x being a paedo)

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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Johnny Ryall » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:27 pm

Pretty sure I remember tweeting Greg Miller at the height of Colin being a knob that if he had to repeatedly put out his fires that something is wrong. I'd have no problem him reading my comments other than he would love the attention.

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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Fade » Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:28 pm

Green Gecko wrote:Fade should offer anti-slander defence forces to game-related online personalities.

Yeah it's not like I mentioned Conservatives in my example. This clearly isn't about respecting opinions and not jumping to conclusions. I definitely only care about gaming personalities, spot on.

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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Green Gecko » Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:43 pm

It just seems odd to me to be more upset that people bitch about other people they disagree with than average. And then, somewhat ironically, complaining about it.

Harbouring a distaste toward's others etiquette is one of many ways to be miserable. People say gooseberry fool and silently policing those thoughts achieves nothing in much the same way. That's my advice.

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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Fade » Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:09 pm

I'm really not upset :lol:

And I'm not being ironic. I said slagging people off is fruitless, not complaining.
If you can complain and make a good argument with facts then go for it.

I talk about debating with someone instead of slagging them off, then instead of trying to tell me why I'm wrong, you make a sarcastic remark towards me. And then call me ironic. Alright :simper:

Dude come on, thats a load of rubbish. The whole point of mods is to do exactly that.

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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Green Gecko » Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:47 pm

Whoops. I didn't say what you're saying or doing is wrong. I actually have very little interest in day to day life proving whether or not people are right or wrong, in order to "win" a generally useless argument. Obviously you wouldn't know that from my posts. I feel it's right to be sceptical and fair in assessing stuff with an evidenced-based approach if you're accusing anyone of something, absolutely I agree with that (in case you think I disagree, which I did not). And I'm just saying it's, in my opinion, not worth your time - I've learnt to accept that backstabbers and people talking behind your or other's backs and saying mean things is a fact of life, and harbouring a distaste towards them as I have in the past (I really dislike "gossipers" and so on, I really don't get it), doesn't achieve much more than make you miserable. I mean that sincerely and not as a slight on you.

Obviously that's up to you how you feel about stuff that goes on... It has nothing to do with moderation, I'm providing a personal observation on your comments which I'm just as entitled to do as anyone else. That's a forum.

That first post was a tongue-in-cheek joke as you sometimes jump in defence of people on here - including Evilore in this thread - when you are talking about bad things that have been said about public figures. Before it was sexism/harassment/misogyny (the latter that you've probed previously - no comment on your views that are unclear) and now it's someone who's apparently a bigot.

I'm allowed to say in a free discussion that it does seem odd to me to defend these people. You are kind of policing it, but without any power to do so - so I guess my question is, what do you aim to achieve? You could argue it's just as fruitless defending against the lynch-mobbing, if you will, as it is doing the lynchmobbing/"slagging off". My - I think - valid observation is it's 2 sides of the same coin. You tend to be on the defensive side of debates. And yes I think it is ironic that you're being defensive about being defensive and complaining about sarcastic jest in my post while also being sarcastic in criticism of it, because that's exactly what irony is. There's nothing wrong with being defensive or sarcastic, or ironic. But I can notice it, and consider it "odd". I'm sorry if I offended you, honestly.

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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Lagamorph » Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:21 pm

There's now an official dark theme.
Still too much purple, but better than the default at least.

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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Saint of Killers » Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:32 pm

It's about as dark as night time in Skyrim. I'll stick with unofficial Stylish theme.

edit: on the plus side, they've at least built the option to switch between light and dark into the front of the site (bottom left of board) and not just stuck it in board preferences, etc.

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by Green Gecko » Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:43 pm

They have both really lightweight + small text on grey (poor contrast), and excessive contrast (100% white on some kind of black hole plum purple), making it hard to read in some places and blocky in others - both hard on the eyes.

Very light or very dark shades of tones like purple, wreak havoc with monitors because they never look like a particular colour (screen tints, brightness/contrast colours, relative colour perception etc). What you end up is a mishmash of colours like orange, pink, purple, indigo, navy etc.

Is it just me or have they started adding tints everywhere. Just stick with grey and one purple (like we have one red). Grey isn't a colour so when I say grey what I really mean is greyscale.

They're going to end up with something like this otherwise.

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Easy mistake mixing up branding with accents. Branding doesn't = make every upper hierarchy piece of information and icon that colour. The most effective brands use brand colours as accents, or a background (only in print media like labels, large inverted areas of text/colour etc), not as a way to brandish every object. Things like buttons, link text, and other small, incidental things. It really looks clumsy when you block out massive areas in any particular colour for no apparent significance. If you're going to go down that route - just make the whole design in colour and go nuts. But that's a really poor idea for a text-based, non-marketing/product type of website.

Edit: Just checked out of curiosity and it does actually fail most W3C visibility tests. Fwiw we pass about 90% of them.

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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Fade » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:39 am

Green Gecko wrote:-snip-

I'm usually on the defensive side of debates because it makes people question their actions. And me and the other party usually learn from it.
Like, for example I'm pretty far left, but I call bullshit on the stuff Green Party/Green Peace etc publicise when I see it.
Or like I've already said, if one of my hippy friends posts some stupid "Conservatives are banana splits" image, I'll call them out on it.

If you question people's slagging off of someone else they might change their behaviour in the future into something more positive/productive.
And I also just think it's nicer to have a more positive atmosphere. It doesn't come from a place of contempt :)

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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Green Gecko » Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:35 am

Good to know. I commend you for your efforts, myself I just can't be bothered engaging with stuff like that on Facebook for example. It's like arguing with my mother who is going deaf as well as forgetting what she just said.

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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Preezy » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:38 am

So is old GAF still a thing? Or has the entire community moved to this new Resetera?

I haven't bothered visiting/posting there since all the drama started, what's the latest?

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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Saint of Killers » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:45 am

It's still there but it moves at a much slower pace. (I only visit via the unofficial app.) Which in a funny way can be seen as a positive. Y'know, if you ignore the whys and wherefores. :lol:

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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Mafro » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:58 am

Preezy wrote:So is old GAF still a thing? Or has the entire community moved to this new Resetera?

I haven't bothered visiting/posting there since all the drama started, what's the latest?

Not that I care of course, GRcade wifey4lifey :wub: :shifty:

It's moving at a snail's pace compared to what it was like pre-rapey Evilore. Ad revenue must be waaaaay down.

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