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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump blurts out highly classified info to the Russians
by Garth » Tue May 16, 2017 5:13 pm

Press briefing over - General McMaster is now neither able to confirm or deny if classified information was given by Trump to the Russians, just said that the information was "wholly appropriate". He also couldn't confirm if the information had even been shared with US allies.

He said the President wasn't briefed on intel sources and methods, and he ended by saying that Trump didn't even know where the information came from:

Wut? :? He just made Trump sound even more incompetent :lol:


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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump blurts out highly classified info to the Russians
by Preezy » Tue May 16, 2017 5:19 pm

Dig up, stupid.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump blurts out highly classified info to the Russians
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by KK » Tue May 16, 2017 5:33 pm

Islam, one of the greatest religions in the world, possibly the greatest actually when you think about it, but a great religion. We'll do great deals with Saudi Arabia. The United States...and Saudi Arabia...believe me folks, and I don't know if you know this, but we have been allies for a very long time, possibly longer than most people realise...I have always been pro Islam...I'm saying words, they mean absolutely nothing...but Islam...

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by JediDragon05 » Tue May 16, 2017 5:36 pm

Ah the possibilities of Trump on Islam

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What could go wrong.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump blurts out highly classified info to the Russians
by Garth » Tue May 16, 2017 5:42 pm

If he starts saying nice things about Islam in this speech, there'll be some very confused Trump voters :lol:

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by KK » Tue May 16, 2017 5:50 pm

What is it with this guy and walls.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump blurts out highly classified info to the Russians
by Memento Mori » Tue May 16, 2017 7:16 pm

Garth wrote:If he starts saying nice things about Islam in this speech, there'll be some very confused Trump voters :lol:

It's become a cult at this point, they don't care. Everything Trump says is right even when it contradicts what he's already said.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump blurts out highly classified info to the Russians
by Garth » Tue May 16, 2017 7:19 pm


Israel Was Source of Secret Intelligence That Trump Gave to Russians, Officials Say

The classified intelligence that President Trump disclosed in a meeting last week with Russian officials at the White House was provided by Israel, according to a current and a former American official familiar with how the United States obtained the information. The revelation adds a potential diplomatic complication to the episode.

Israel is one of the United States’ most important allies and a major intelligence collector in the Middle East. The revelation that Mr. Trump boasted about some of Israel’s most sensitive information to the Russians could damage the relationship between the two countries. It also raises the possibility that the information could be passed to Iran, Russia’s close ally and Israel’s main threat in the Middle East.

The officials, who were not authorized to discuss the matter and spoke on the condition of anonymity, said that Israel previously had urged the United States to be careful about the handling of the intelligence that Mr. Trump discussed.

Israel’s concerns about the Trump White House’s handling of classified information were foreshadowed in the Israeli news media earlier this year. Newspapers there reported in January that American officials warned their Israeli counterparts to be careful about what they told the Trump administration because it could be leaked to the Russians, given Mr. Trump’s openness toward President Vladimir V. Putin.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/worl ... share&_r=0

Great timing Mr. President.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump blurts out highly classified info to the Russians
by Alvin Flummux » Tue May 16, 2017 7:45 pm

Clearly a prelude to the inevitable chorus of "What did the president know and when did he know it?"

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump blurts out highly classified info to the Russians
by Garth » Tue May 16, 2017 7:47 pm

Israeli Officials: Trump Sharing Intelligence With Russia Is "Worst Fears Confirmed"

Two Israeli intelligence officials confirmed to BuzzFeed News Tuesday that Israel had shared specific intelligence with the US regarding ISIS plots to smuggle explosive laptops onto planes, under the unique intelligence-sharing agreement the two countries maintain.

The revelation that Trump had shared that intelligence with Russian officials was Israel's "worst fears confirmed," said one of the intelligence officers.

"We have an arrangement with America which is unique to the world of intelligence sharing. We do not have this relationship with any other country," said the officer, who spoke to BuzzFeed News on condition of anonymity as he was not granted permission to speak to the press.

"There is a special understanding of security cooperation between our countries," they said. "To know that this intelligence is shared with others, without our prior knowledge? That is, for us, our worst fears confirmed."

"There has to be trust for this sort of arrangement. I cannot speak for Israel's entire security apparatus, but I would not trust a partner who shared intelligence without coordinating it with us first," said the officer.

A second intelligence officer, who spoke to BuzzFeed News via encrypted app and also spoke on condition of anonymity, confirmed that Israel had shared specific intelligence with the US regarding an active threat to US-bound planes. Speaking to BuzzFeed News via a military base in northern Israel, he said Israeli intelligence officers were "boiling mad and demanding answers" as to whether Israel's military would continue its current intelligence-sharing agreement with the US.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/sheerafrenkel/ ... .nnz3ZW1DM

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by Corazon de Leon » Tue May 16, 2017 10:32 pm

I feel a bit sorry for H.R. McMaster, who's PhD defence is featured in my PhD, weirdly. He's been absolutely hung out to dry - I wouldn't be surprised if he quit his post as National Security Advisor.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump blurts out highly classified info to the Russians
by Garth » Tue May 16, 2017 10:38 pm

Comey Memo Says Trump Asked Him to End Flynn Investigation

President Trump asked the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, to shut down the federal investigation into Mr. Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, in an Oval Office meeting in February, according to a memo that Mr. Comey wrote shortly after the meeting.

“I hope you can let this go,” the president told Mr. Comey, according to the memo.

The existence of Mr. Trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the Justice Department and F.B.I. investigation into links between Mr. Trump’s associates and Russia.

Mr. Comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after Mr. Flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo. The memo was part of a paper trail Mr. Comey created documenting what he perceived as the president’s improper efforts to influence an ongoing investigation. An F.B.I. agent’s contemporaneous notes are widely held up in court as credible evidence of conversations.


Mr. Comey shared the existence of the memo with senior F.B.I. officials and close associates. The New York Times has not viewed a copy of the memo, which is unclassified, but one of Mr. Comey’s associates read parts of the memo to a Times reporter.

“I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go,” Mr. Trump told Mr. Comey, according to the memo. “He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go.”

Mr. Trump told Mr. Comey that Mr. Flynn had done nothing wrong, according to the memo.


Mr. Comey did not say anything to Mr. Trump about curtailing the investigation, only replying: “I agree he is a good guy.”

In a statement, the White House denied the version of events in the memo.

“While the president has repeatedly expressed his view that General Flynn is a decent man who served and protected our country, the president has never asked Mr. Comey or anyone else to end any investigation, including any investigation involving General Flynn,” the statement said. “The president has the utmost respect for our law enforcement agencies, and all investigations. This is not a truthful or accurate portrayal of the conversation between the president and Mr. Comey.”

In testimony to the Senate last week, the acting F.B.I. director, Andrew G. McCabe, said, “There has been no effort to impede our investigation to date.”

A spokesman for the F.B.I. declined to comment.

Mr. Comey created similar memos — including some that are classified — about every phone call and meeting he had with the president, the two people said. It is unclear whether Mr. Comey told the Justice Department about the conversation or his memos.

Mr. Trump fired Mr. Comey last week. Trump administration officials have provided multiple, conflicting accounts of the reasoning behind Mr. Comey’s dismissal. Mr. Trump said in a television interview that one of the reasons was because he believed “this Russia thing” was a “made-up story.”

The Feb. 14 meeting took place just a day after Mr. Flynn was forced out of his job after it was revealed he had lied to Vice President Mike Pence about the nature of phone conversations he had had with the Russian ambassador to the United States.

Despite the conversation between Mr. Trump and Mr. Comey, the investigation of Mr. Flynn has proceeded. In Virginia, a federal grand jury has issued subpoenas in recent weeks for records related to Mr. Flynn. Part of the Flynn investigation is centered on his financial ties to Russia and Turkey.

Mr. Comey had been in the Oval Office that day with other senior national security officials for a terrorism threat briefing. When the meeting ended, Mr. Trump told those present — including Mr. Pence and Attorney General Jeff Sessions — to leave the room except for Mr. Comey.

Alone in the Oval Office, Mr. Trump began the discussion by condemning leaks to the news media, saying that Mr. Comey should consider putting reporters in prison for publishing classified information, according to one of Mr. Comey’s associates.

Mr. Trump then turned the discussion to Mr. Flynn.

After writing up a memo that outlined the meeting, Mr. Comey shared it with senior F.B.I. officials. Mr. Comey and his aides perceived Mr. Trump’s comments as an effort to influence the investigation, but they decided that they would try to keep the conversation secret — even from the F.B.I. agents working on the Russia investigation — so the details of the conversation would not affect the investigation.

Mr. Comey was known among his closest advisers to document conversations that he believed would later be called into question, according to two former confidants, who said Mr. Comey was uncomfortable at times with his relationship with Mr. Trump.


Mr. Comey’s recollection has been bolstered in the past by F.B.I. notes. In 2007, he told Congress about a now-famous showdown with senior White House officials over the Bush administration’s warrantless wiretapping program. The White House disputed Mr. Comey’s account, but the F.B.I. director at the time, Robert S. Mueller III, kept notes that backed up Mr. Comey’s story.

The White House has repeatedly crossed lines that other administrations have been reluctant to cross when discussing politically charged criminal investigations. Mr. Trump has disparaged the ongoing F.B.I. investigation as a hoax and called for an investigation into his political rivals. His representatives have taken the unusual step of declaring no need for a special prosecutor to investigate the president’s associates.

The Oval Office meeting occurred a little more than two weeks after Mr. Trump summoned Mr. Comey to the White House for a lengthy, one-on-one dinner in the residence. At that dinner, on Jan. 27, Mr. Trump asked Mr. Comey at least two times for a pledge of loyalty — which Mr. Comey declined, according to one of Mr. Comey’s associates.

In a Twitter posting on Friday, Mr. Trump said that “James Comey better hope that there are no ‘tapes’ of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!”

After the meeting, Mr. Comey’s associates did not believe there was any way to corroborate Mr. Trump’s statements. But Mr. Trump’s suggestion last week that he was keeping tapes has made them wonder whether there are tapes that back up Mr. Comey’s account.

The Jan. 27 dinner came a day after White House officials learned that Mr. Flynn had been interviewed by F.B.I. agents about his phone calls with the Russian ambassador, Sergey I. Kislyak. On Jan. 26, Acting Attorney General Sally Q. Yates told the White House counsel about the interview, and said Mr. Flynn could be subject to blackmail by the Russians because they knew he had lied about the content of the calls.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/us/p ... C4&gwt=pay

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump blurts out highly classified info to the Russians
by Cuttooth » Tue May 16, 2017 10:39 pm

Watch Trump release the tapes and corroborate these claims.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - FBI Memo Says Trump Tried to Influence Flynn Investigation
by Photek » Tue May 16, 2017 11:02 pm

Time for the republicans to grow a pair right now.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - FBI Memo Says Trump Tried to Influence Flynn Investigation
by Garth » Tue May 16, 2017 11:04 pm

CNN's sources are also saying the memo is real. They're talking about it now! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYorzkWhrvM


The same New York Times reporter broke the Russia/Trump campaign and Clinton emails stories:


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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - FBI Memo: Trump Tried to End Flynn Investigation
by Garth » Tue May 16, 2017 11:12 pm

White House is denying it, Trump to admit to it tomorrow then? :lol:

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - FBI Memo: Trump Tried to End Flynn Investigation
by Garth » Tue May 16, 2017 11:13 pm

CNN's FBI source says they have a copy of the memo!

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - FBI Memo: Trump Tried to End Flynn Investigation
by Garth » Tue May 16, 2017 11:17 pm



NBC also reporting that Comey plans to go public about the memos he kept from his meetings with Trump.


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