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Re: US Politics - Earth supports Iran nuclear deal despite actions of Orange Fuckwit

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:13 pm
by Garth
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:
Moggy wrote:Or he could die I guess.

I want him in prison. He thoroughly deserves to be put away and see out his final days as an incarcerated disgrace.

Living just long enough to see most of his changes undone by the next President.

Re: US Politics - Earth supports Iran nuclear deal despite actions of Orange Fuckwit

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:13 pm
by Moggy
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:
Moggy wrote:Or he could die I guess.

I want him in prison. He thoroughly deserves to be put away and see out his final days as an incarcerated disgrace.


He does deserve it, but I just can’t see it. If he’s thrown out of office then Pence and the Republicans will not want the distraction of a trial and prison sentence for the previous Republican President while they are dealing with the scandal of the impeachment/25th Amendment.

Best hope for jail would be to wait until 2020, get a Democrat President in and then prosecute the strawberry floater with zero chance of a Presidential pardon. :nod:

Re: US Politics - Earth supports Iran nuclear deal despite actions of Orange Fuckwit

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:52 pm
by Garth

twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/919024875670589440


Re: US Politics - Earth supports Iran nuclear deal despite actions of Orange Fuckwit

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:58 pm
by Alvin Flummux
The President can pardon anyone, regardless of whether they've been charged with a crime. Pence will pardon Trump.

Re: US Politics - Earth supports Iran nuclear deal despite actions of Orange Fuckwit

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:02 pm
by Peter Crisp
Garth wrote:
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:
Moggy wrote:Or he could die I guess.

I want him in prison. He thoroughly deserves to be put away and see out his final days as an incarcerated disgrace.

Living just long enough to see most of his changes undone by the next President.


I'd be fine with the world blowing up after the new Star Trek series finishes a 5 year run and we have a few new Game of Thrones spin-offs.

Re: US Politics - Earth supports Iran nuclear deal despite actions of Orange Fuckwit

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:15 pm
by Rightey
US and Israel to withdraw from UNESCO...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-unesco- ... -1.4351541

The United States and Israel announced Thursday they are quitting UNESCO after Washington accused the UN's cultural agency of anti-Israeli bias.

The withdrawal of the United States, which is meant to provide a fifth of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization's funding, is a major blow for the Paris-based organization, founded after the Second World War to help protect cultural and natural heritage around the world.

UNESCO is best known for designating World Heritage Sites such as the ancient city of Palmyra in Syria and the Grand Canyon National Park.

"This decision was not taken lightly, and reflects U.S. concerns with mounting arrears at UNESCO, the need for fundamental reform in the organization, and continuing anti-Israel bias," the State Department's Heather Nauert said in a statement.

Hours later, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Israel would quit too, calling the U.S. decision "brave and moral."

UNESCO director general Irina Bokova expressed her disappointment: "At the time when conflicts continue to tear apart societies across the world, it is deeply regrettable for the United States to withdraw from the United Nations agency promoting education for peace and protecting culture under attack," she said.

"This is a loss to the United Nations family. This is a loss for multilateralism."

UNESCO resolution on Jerusalem holy sites draws criticism from U.S., Israel
Israel suspends ties with UNESCO over naming of Jerusalem holy site

Washington has already been withholding its funding for UNESCO since 2011, when the body gave full-member status to the Palestinians. The United States and Israel were among just 14 of 194 members that voted against admitting the Palestinians. Washington's arrears on its $80 million US annual dues since then are now over $500 million.

Although Washington supports a future independent Palestinian state, it says this should emerge out of peace talks and it considers it unhelpful for international organizations to admit the Palestinian interests until negotiations are complete.
'New day at the UN'

In recent years, Israel has repeatedly complained about what it says is the body taking sides in disputes over cultural heritage sites in Jerusalem and the Palestinian territories.

"Today is a new day at the UN, where there is price to pay for discrimination against Israel," said Israel's ambassador to the United Nations, Danny Danon.

Netanyahu told world leaders at the UN General Assembly last month that UNESCO was promoting "fake history" after it designated Hebron and the two adjoined shrines at its heart — the Jewish Tomb of the Patriarchs and the Muslim Ibrahimi Mosque — as a "Palestinian World Heritage Site in Danger."

An Arab-backed UNESCO resolution last year condemned Israeli's policies at religious sites in East Jerusalam and the West Bank.

In a statement, Nikki Haley, U.S. ambassador to the UN, said those "outrageous" designations were major factors in the U.S. decision.

"The purpose of UNESCO is a good one. Unfortunately, its extreme politicization has become a chronic embarrassment. The Tomb of the Patriarchs decision was just the latest in a long line of foolish actions, which includes keeping Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad on a UNESCO human rights committee even after his murderous crackdown on peaceful protesters," Haley said.

"Just as we said in 1984 when President Reagan withdrew from UNESCO, U.S. taxpayers should no longer be on the hook to pay for policies that are hostile to our values and make a mockery of justice and common sense."
'It's not just about money'

Under UNESCO rules, the U.S. withdrawal will become effective as of the end of December 2018. Three diplomats had told Reuters earlier on Thursday of the impending decision.

The organization, which employs around 2,000 people worldwide, most of them based in Paris, has struggled for relevance as it becomes increasingly hobbled by regional rivalries and a lack of money.

"The absence of the United States or any large country with a lot of power is a loss. It's not just about money, it's promoting ideals that are vital to countries like the United States, such as education and culture," a UNESCO-based diplomat said, warning that others could follow.

For differing reasons, Britain, Japan and Brazil are among states that have yet to pay their dues for 2017.

Russia's former envoy to UNESCO told RIA news agency the agency was better off without the Americans.

"In recent years, they've been of no use for this organisation," Eleanora Mitrofanova said. "Since 2011 they have practically not been paying to the budget of this organization... They decided to exit — this is absolutely in line with [U.S. President Donald] Trump's general logic today."

Re: US Politics - Earth supports Iran nuclear deal despite actions of Orange Fuckwit

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:29 pm
by Moggy
Trump has a lot in common with ISIS, they hate world heritage sites as well.

Re: US Politics - Earth supports Iran nuclear deal despite actions of Orange Fuckwit

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:31 pm
by Corazon de Leon
That's not the most surprising news - US withdrew under Reagan and didn't return until the W. presidency. They've long alleged that UNESCO has an anti-Jewish bias.

Re: US Politics - Earth supports Iran nuclear deal despite actions of Orange Fuckwit

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:33 pm
by Rightey
Yeah, they basically left in 2011 when they stopped paying their dues, so it's really not a Trump thing.

Re: US Politics - Earth supports Iran nuclear deal despite actions of Orange Fuckwit

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:56 pm
by Monkey Man
Alvin Flummux wrote:The President can pardon anyone, regardless of whether they've been charged with a crime. Pence will pardon Trump.

But it turns out that there is a flaw in Trump’s strategy. The presidential pardon only applies to federal crimes. As NBC reported last night, it is possible for state governments to press charges in some of the alleged crimes committed by Trump’s cronies. “You would have to find that one of those [election] crimes occurred in New York,” Jennifer Rodgers, a former federal prosecutor, told NBC. Of course, some of the alleged crimes almost certainly did take place in New York. And sure enough, Josh Dawsey reports, Mueller is teaming up with New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman. “One of the people familiar with progress on the case said both Mueller’s and Schneiderman’s teams have collected evidence on financial crimes, including potential money laundering,” he notes.

Trump can pardon anybody facing charges from Mueller, but not from Schneiderman. It is probably significant that Mueller is letting this fact be known to Trump’s inner circle. Trump’s biggest source of leverage over Mueller just disappeared.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... -card.html

Re: US Politics - Earth supports Iran nuclear deal despite actions of Orange Fuckwit

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:59 pm
by Alvin Flummux
Let's hope Schneiderman charges a lot of Trump associates, and the man himself, then.

Re: US Politics - Earth supports Iran nuclear deal despite actions of Orange Fuckwit

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:08 pm
by Moggy
Alvin Flummux wrote:Let's hope Schneiderman charges a lot of Trump associates, and the man himself, then.


Schneiderman? Let’s hope he realises that with great power comes great responsibility.

Re: US Politics - Earth supports Iran nuclear deal despite actions of Orange Fuckwit

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:59 pm
by Alvin Flummux
Moggy wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:Let's hope Schneiderman charges a lot of Trump associates, and the man himself, then.


Schneiderman? Let’s hope he realises that with great power comes great responsibility.


He got bitten by a radioactive Rob Schneider. He knows.

Re: US Politics - Earth supports Iran nuclear deal despite actions of Orange Fuckwit

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:34 pm
by Garth
$10 million reward offered by Hustler founder Larry Flynt for information on Trump - full page ad in the Washington Post:

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Re: US Politics - $10 million reward for info on Trump

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:42 pm
by Garth
Trump Given A Subpoena For All Documents Relating To Assault Allegations

A woman who said Donald Trump groped her has subpoenaed his campaign for documents about “any woman alleging that Donald J. Trump touched her inappropriately.” Trump has denied her accusations and is fighting the subpoena.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jessicagarriso ... .yaAbNBJZP

Re: US Politics - $10 million reward for info on Trump

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:27 pm
by Alvin Flummux
Any woman? Man, that's gonna be a real tall stack of documents!

Re: US Politics - $10 million reward for info on Trump

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:33 pm
by Lex-Man
Alvin Flummux wrote:Any woman? Man, that's gonna be a real tall stack of documents!


He's just announced a Halloween bonfire as well.

Re: US Politics - $10 million reward for info on Trump

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:07 pm
by Peter Crisp
It would be interesting to see how his fans react if Trump is held in contempt of court when he flatly refuses to cooperate.
I have a feeling they'll back him and claim the courts are partisan and this is all just a liberal plot and say any action against Trump is somehow wrong despite the fact that anyone else doing the same would be spending time in prison.

Re: US Politics - $10 million reward for info on Trump

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:38 am
by Hexx
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/bl ... nt-n810436

Remember that "iconic" image of a black man being beaten by "white supremacists" "good people" in Charlottesville?

He's been charged by the police by the police for "unlawful wounding" while defending himself.

Re: US Politics - $10 million reward for info on Trump

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:23 pm
by KK
Long article on Pence, featuring an alleged quote from Trump:

The New Yorker wrote:The Danger of President Pence

Trump’s critics yearn for his exit. But Mike Pence, the corporate right’s inside man, poses his own risks.

When the conversation turned to gay rights, Trump motioned toward Pence and joked, “Don’t ask that guy—he wants to hang them all!”

Many Americans have debated whether the country would be better off with Pence as President. From a purely partisan viewpoint, Harold Ickes, a longtime Democratic operative, argues that—putting aside the fear that Trump might start a nuclear war—“Democrats should hope Trump stays in office,” because he makes a better foil, and because Pence might work more effectively with Congress and be more successful at advancing the far right’s agenda. Newt Gingrich predicts that Pence will probably get a chance to do so. “I think he’s the most likely Republican nominee in 2024,” he said. Ron Klain, who was chief of staff to the former Vice-President Joe Biden, is skeptical of this, given Trump’s accumulating baggage. “There is no success for Mike Pence unless Trump works—he cannot run far enough or fast enough to not get hit by the falling tree,” Klain said. “But he may think he can.” Evidently, the next chapter is on Pence’s mind. Over the fireplace in the Vice-President’s residence, he has hung a plaque with a passage from the Bible: “ ‘For I know the plans I have for you,’ declares the lord, ‘Plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.’ ”

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017 ... dent-pence

Another religious fruitcake. Trump by comparison isn't religious at all, he's just jumped on that bandwagon for his own gain.