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by Squinty » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:29 pm

Bringing up Brerlappin's and Moggy's point there, I still cannot understand why being liberal has become this terrible thing that should be derided or treated inferior.

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by Alvin Flummux » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:34 pm

Squinty wrote:Bringing up Brerlappin's and Moggy's point there, I still cannot understand why being liberal has become this terrible thing that should be derided or treated inferior.


The West Wing gifted liberals a great speech on liberalism:

Santos: It's true, Republicans have tried to turn 'liberal' into a bad word. Well, liberals ended slavery in this country.
Vinick: A Republican president ended slavery.
Santos: Yes, a liberal Republican. What happened to them? They got run out of your party. What did liberals do that was so offensive to the Republican party? I'll tell you what they did. Liberals got women the right to vote. Liberals got African-Americans the right to vote. Liberals created social security and lifted millions of elderly people out of poverty. Liberals ended segregation. Liberals passed the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, Liberals created Medicare. Liberals passed the Clean Air Act, and the Clean Water Act. What did Conservatives do? They opposed every one of those programs. Every one. So when you try to hurl the word 'liberal' at my feet, as if it were dirty, something to run away from, something that I should be ashamed of, it won't work, Senator, because I will pick up that label and wear it as a badge of honor.


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by Moggy » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:53 pm

Squinty wrote:Bringing up Brerlappin's and Moggy's point there, I still cannot understand why being liberal has become this terrible thing that should be derided or treated inferior.


The greedy, the ignorant and the racists hate liberals because they want to be free to exploit and persecute those poorer or darker than themselves. The hard/far right in America has been very successful at making out liberals are going to take away your guns, have “death panels” in state run hospitals, are going to turn America into Soviet Russia, take away your right to free speech etc etc

America has been using “liberal” as an insult for a long time now, what annoys me is how that has crept in over here. :x

It is always amusing though when you see frothing at the mouth right wing ignoramuses going on about evil liberals and their “neo liberal” agenda. Hmmm, tell me more about this neoliberalism you hate so much…. :slol:

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by Moggy » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:58 pm

KK wrote:On the transparent wall and the 60 pound drugs, he's technically correct. I mean you would be able to see the drugs being thrown up into the air, over the wall, and have time to take evasive action. So, you know, he's got that base covered. SMART.


Maybe Trump has realised that the wall will never be built and so is trying an "Emperor's New Clothes"?

"Donald where is the wall?"
"Right there"
"I can't see it?"
"It's transparent"
"Huh?"
"I build a tremendously large beautiful transparent wall to stop Americans being hit by bags of drugs, it's right there but invisible!"
"Oh Donald, we all love you so much!"

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by Hexx » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:59 pm

I prefer a theory on rllmuk

WH staff: Mr President. You need to be transparent about the wall. Let the press know the details.

One hour later...

Trump: One of the things with the wall is you need transparency. You have to be able to see through it. In other words, if you can’t see through that wall — so it could be a steel wall with openings, but you have to have openings because you have to see what’s on the other side of the wall.

WH staff: :doh:

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by Moggy » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:03 pm

Hexx wrote:I prefer a theory on rllmuk

WH staff: Mr President. You need to be transparent about the wall. Let the press know the details.

One hour later...

Trump: One of the things with the wall is you need transparency. You have to be able to see through it. In other words, if you can’t see through that wall — so it could be a steel wall with openings, but you have to have openings because you have to see what’s on the other side of the wall.

WH staff: :doh:


Or he heard a rumour that trans parents were being allowed to keep their children and wants to make sure that they are all moved to Mexico.

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by Saint of Killers » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:35 pm

Russian Lawyer Brought Ex-Soviet Counter Intelligence Officer to Trump Team Meeting
by KEN DILANIAN and NATASHA LEBEDEVA

WASHINGTON — The Russian lawyer who met with the Trump team after a promise of compromising material on Hillary Clinton was accompanied by a Russian-American lobbyist — a former Soviet counter intelligence officer who is suspected by some U.S. officials of having ongoing ties to Russian intelligence, NBC News has learned.

NBC News is not naming the lobbyist, who denies any current ties to Russian spy agencies. He accompanied the lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, to the June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower attended by Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort.

The Russian-born American lobbyist served in the Soviet military and emigrated to the U.S., where he holds dual citizenship.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rus ... am-n782851


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PostRe: US Politics - Trump Jr. tweets emails linking Russian gov to Trump campaign ahead of NY Times report (p566)
by Harry Ola » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:35 pm

Do you remember when Donny Jr was being so transparent, oh so transparent, well it turns out he might have forgotten to mention something:



Now his lawyer has remembered to mention something else:


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by Moggy » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:08 pm

I would love it, strawberry floating love it, if the entire Trump clan ended up in prison.

Except for Eric. Lock Eric up by himself in Trump Tower where he can't be near any other humans.

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by Tineash » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:10 pm

You forgot Tiffany! Everyone forgets Tiffany...

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by Moggy » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:16 pm

Tineash wrote:You forgot Tiffany! Everyone forgets Tiffany...


She won’t go to jail, even if she makes it to court the judge will forget that she’s there.

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by Alvin Flummux » Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:40 pm

Funny how most news sites reporting on the Russian lobbyist's presence are omitting his past career as a Soviet counter-intelligence officer, and potential ongoing links to Russian intelligence.

Are they just being cautious?

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by Harry Ola » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:08 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:Funny how most news sites reporting on the Russian lobbyist's presence are omitting his past career as a Soviet counter-intelligence officer, and potential ongoing links to Russian intelligence.

Are they just being cautious?


My guess is they are just scrabbling round trying to find some juicy info on him. Slate are reporting that he has previously been implicated in some hacking trial.

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by Garth » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:44 pm

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WTF :lol:

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by Lagamorph » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:46 pm

Is Trump the shake hands guy from Banzai?

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PostRe: US Politics - Trump Jr. tweets emails linking Russian gov to Trump campaign ahead of NY Times report (p566)
by KK » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:48 pm

Payback for shaking his hand the last time.

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by Dual » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:33 pm

:lol: this is 2017

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by <]:^D » Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:17 pm

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by KK » Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:23 pm

That second one makes it look like they're all about to start singing...


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PostRe: US Politics - Trump Jr. tweets emails linking Russian gov to Trump campaign ahead of NY Times report (p566)
by Karl » Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:28 pm

Historians will look back at this as the moment Western civilisation began to fall apart.

Pretty funny though :slol:


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