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by captain red dog » Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:55 pm

According to The Sun on Sunday, so take it with a large pinch of bullshit.

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by Hexx » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:00 pm

Everyone else is going with the 'we didn't read the email before going to meeting' defence

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by Harry Ola » Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:55 am

So Trump's lawyer tried pinning the dodgy meeting on the Secret Service. But as they've pointed out, Jr wasn't getting protection then. So the secret service would only be involved if they were expecting Daddy to show up ....


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by Preezy » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:54 am

Peter Crisp wrote:Here's a nice show with 2 better Presidents than the US has now :D .
Enjoy.

Great vid thanks for the sharing.

That shows me 2 things:

1 - they're both regular humans and aren't inherently bad or evil. They seem to be a laugh and I bet they have some fantastic stories.

2 - I could never imagine Trump doing something like that because he's a sociopath that wouldn't ever be able to laugh at himself.

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by KK » Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:47 pm

CBS News wrote:Answers demanded after Minneapolis cop shoots Australian woman dead with body camera off

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MINNEAPOLIS – Family, residents and this city's mayor are demanding to know why a woman was fatally shot by a police officer over the weekend and why the officer's body camera was off at the time, reports CBS Minnesota.

"I mean ask anybody here, they're shocked," said Corey Birkholz, a student of Justine Damond, a south Minneapolis woman who taught meditation classes and spiritual healing at the Lake Harriet Spiritual Community. "It doesn't seem like she'd be the kind of person to get shot in an alley," Birkholz said.

His feelings were shared by more than 200 people who gathered for a vigil Sunday near the spot where Damond died hours earlier.

"A woman who you met her -- was just peaceful," a neighbor at the vigil said.

Investigators with the Bureau of Criminal Apprehension (BCA) said that at around 11:30 p.m. Saturday, a 911 call was made about a possible assault in the area.

They said a Minneapolis police officer fired his or her weapon, killing a woman.

A man claiming to be Damond's son said in a Facebook video that she's the one who called 911 after hearing a noise in the alley near their home.

"She thought something bad was happening and next thing I know, they take my best friend's life," the man, named Zach, said in the video.

Investigators said the officers involved had body cameras, but they weren't turned on.

"I don't know anything about the law or police work to that extent but to me, it seems really stupid. You have a body camera, aren't you supposed to use them?" asked a visibly upset and confused Birkholz asked.

Minneapolis Mayor Betsy Hodges voiced similar sentiments at a news conference, saying, "I share the same questions other people have about why we don't have body camera footage of it, and I hope to get answers to that in the days coming."

Investigators said the squad car video was on but didn't capture what happened at the scene. The detectives said they're trying to figure out if any video evidence of what happened exists.

As the grieving community in south Minneapolis waited for answers and more information on the incident, they also focused on honoring Damond.

According to her website, Damond moved to Minneapolis from Sydney, Australia. The former veterinarian became a yoga instructor, personal health and life coach and meditation teacher.

Neighbors and friends described her as an animal lover, a mother and a warm spirit ready to help others.

Birkholz said through her classes, Damond could help people work their way through illnesses and other life problems with the help of meditation.

"A very conscious, loving person and you wouldn't associate that with a gunshot in an alley," he said.

The two officers involved in the shooting are on paid administrative leave, which is standard procedure.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/answers-dem ... amera-off/


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by Preezy » Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:51 pm

The best policing, just tremendous.

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by KK » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:16 pm

"That's politics, folks!" should be his new sign-off.

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by Peter Crisp » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:27 pm

He really does believe the normal rules just don't apply to his family and the amazing thing is he's getting away with it purely because the partisanship has got to the point where party does indeed come before country.

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by Peter Crisp » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:38 pm

KK wrote:http://www.cbsnews.com/news/answers-demanded-minneapolis-cop-shoots-woman-dead-body-camera-off/


What US police are allowed to get away with is strawberry floating brutal and the public just put up with it because they have this odd idea that the police need to be obeyed without question and any resistance can be met with often deadly force.
The fact that many people will then say that any objection to such tactics is just liberal crybabies and that they obviously don't support the police or rule of law just makes the whole debate pointless as they will claim any amount of physical violence by police is justified whenever an officer decides the situation warrants it even when it clearly doesn't.

Those same people would see British policing as simply impossible and that the police being normal human beings and not act like a hired goon squad who point a gun at you as simply a matter of routine is somehow how policing should be.

Comply or be slammed to the pavement at best.

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by Preezy » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:49 pm

Ignoring the Black Lives Matter aspect of the below video (although it's still an interesting listen), Sam Harris provides a spot-on assessment of what's happening with US police:

Skip to 4:10:

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by Tineash » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:56 pm

Oh take a flying leap off a cliff of strawberry floats, Sam Harris. Everything he says is absolutely repellent.

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by Tafdolphin » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:50 pm

Yeah, I got about a minute into that (from the 4.10 mark) and quickly realised the guy was talking absolute bullshit. "If you get shot by the police, it's your fault."

strawberry float off.

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by Moggy » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:55 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:Yeah, I got about a minute into that (from the 4.10 mark) and quickly realised the guy was talking absolute bullshit. "If you get shot by the police, it's your fault."

strawberry float off.


Of course it's your fault, police bullets are only attracted to bad guys, they don't work on good guys.

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by BID0 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:48 pm

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Peter Crisp wrote:Here's a nice show with 2 better Presidents than the US has now :D .
Enjoy.

Great vid thanks for the sharing.

That shows me 2 things:

1 - they're both regular humans and aren't inherently bad or evil. They seem to be a laugh and I bet they have some fantastic stories.

2 - I could never imagine Trump doing something like that because he's a sociopath that wouldn't ever be able to laugh at himself.

I'm only 10 minutes in to it and not paying 100% attention but they've already made 2-3 digs at Trump :slol: not sure if intentional however.

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by Xeno » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:48 pm

It's intentional, the whole interview they repeatedly dig at Trump and how he does things compared to how they did it.

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by BID0 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:53 pm

oh yeh... the title of the video :fp: :oops:

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by captain red dog » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:14 pm

It's the age old argument that "if you are innocent you have nothing to fear". Of course it's absolute bollocks as has been proven time and again and also with the disturbing number of innocent people in prison.

It's sadly an inevitably that these things happen in a country with such loose firearm restrictions. America needs to be urgently woken up to the fact that they are not the shining light of freedom around the world. They are almost at the point of having a fully militarised police force.

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by KK » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:25 pm

The increased weaponising of citizens appears to have made the police jumpy as hell. You see it in so many videos, they're freaking out and they're supposed to be the rational ones in these situations. They come across more scared in many scenarios than the citizens they're supposed to be protecting.

Though there's every chance this one could be a crazed cop. I'm sure we'll find out soon enough.

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by Hexx » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:59 pm



It's something they admit to and defend on the basis anyone would have done.

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