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PostRe: US Politics - Trump refuses to implement Russia sanctions, defying near-unanimous Congress vote
by Ho-Ho-Ho-tek » Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:35 pm

Will Paul Ryan be ok if Trump fires Mueller? This is the only reason for this memo surely.

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by Alvin Flummux » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:49 pm

The memo is Trump's pretext for firing Rosenstein, appointing a solid lackey to the post, and throttling the entire investigation without firing Mueller.

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by Alvin Flummux » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:11 pm





Can't wait for the Democrats to respond in kind, with their real memo that's worth a damn. :nod:

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PostRe: US Politics - Trump refuses to implement Russia sanctions, defying near-unanimous Congress vote
by captain red dog » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:12 pm

Wait so the warrant used to order surveillance on a Trump aid was based on the pissing dossier which was financed by Clinton?

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by Hexx » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:16 pm

If you’re a Trumpkin idiot that doesn’t understand reality - yes that’s what this memo is constructed to make you cling to

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by captain red dog » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:17 pm

Hexx wrote:If you’re a Trumpkin idiot that doesn’t understand reality - yes that’s what this memo is constructed to make you cling to

Well surely that's at least worth investigating? The whole construction of that dossier is massively shady.

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PostRe: US Politics - Trump refuses to implement Russia sanctions, defying near-unanimous Congress vote
by Alvin Flummux » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:18 pm

Carter Page had been under surveillance since 2013.

The FBI's investigation began well before the dossier reached them.

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by Hexx » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:19 pm

captain red dog wrote:
Hexx wrote:If you’re a Trumpkin idiot that doesn’t understand reality - yes that’s what this memo is constructed to make you cling to

Well surely that's at least worth investigating? The whole construction of that dossier is massively shady.


Only if you’re a Trumpkin idiot that doesn’t understand reality.

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by Alvin Flummux » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:23 pm

Do we really need to go back to Steele being a well respected former MI6 Russia desk chief, and the fact that the dossier hasn't been disproven, and that parts have been proven?

There is little reason to doubt it.


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by captain red dog » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:27 pm

Hexx wrote:
captain red dog wrote:
Hexx wrote:If you’re a Trumpkin idiot that doesn’t understand reality - yes that’s what this memo is constructed to make you cling to

Well surely that's at least worth investigating? The whole construction of that dossier is massively shady.


Only if you’re a Trumpkin idiot that doesn’t understand reality.

Lovely productive discussion with you as always.

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by Alvin Flummux » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:30 pm

The dossier isn't shady, but the people who released this so-called "memo" sure as hell are.

I eagerly await to the release of the real memo.

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PostRe: US Politics - Trump refuses to implement Russia sanctions, defying near-unanimous Congress vote
by Hexx » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:37 pm

captain red dog wrote:
Hexx wrote:
captain red dog wrote:
Hexx wrote:If you’re a Trumpkin idiot that doesn’t understand reality - yes that’s what this memo is constructed to make you cling to

Well surely that's at least worth investigating? The whole construction of that dossier is massively shady.


Only if you’re a Trumpkin idiot that doesn’t understand reality.

Lovely productive discussion with you as always.


It’s a contemptible piece of politicking designed to appeal to a certain type of deplorable.

If you still think the ‘entire dossier is massively shady’ is some sort productive discussion starter rather than a badge of ineptitude then you are not the sort of person it’s worth getting engaged with.

Have you tried r/The_Donald?

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PostRe: US Politics - Trump refuses to implement Russia sanctions, defying near-unanimous Congress vote
by Hexx » Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:45 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:The dossier isn't shady, but the people who released this so-called "memo" sure as hell are.

I eagerly await to the release of the real memo.



Thing is it doesn’t actually matter what the memo says - it’s fired up the base

I’ve already seen comments:

- it proves the FBI lied to courts
- it proves the Dems and the FBI conspired to rig election for Hillary
- it shows ‘a bigger crime than watergate’
- half the FBI management should be in jail
- the entire Mueller investigation must be closed (‘fruit of poison tree’ principal)
-And other hyperbole

Even if the memo was sacrosanct and accurate - it doesn’t say any of that.

It just an excerise in firing up the ignorant and making them believe their already held opinions even more strongly (somehow)

How to you begin to fight against that level of stupid?

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PostRe: US Politics - Trump refuses to implement Russia sanctions, defying near-unanimous Congress vote
by Harry Ola » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:06 pm

This is the response of the House Dems.

https://democrats-intelligence.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=350

The one claim worth anything in the Nunes memo is that they FBI did not tell the court the source of the Steele dossier. This is their response:

"The Majority suggests that the FBI failed to alert the court as to Mr. Steele’s potential political motivations or the political motivations of those who hired him, but this is not accurate."

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PostRe: US Politics - Trump refuses to implement Russia sanctions, defying near-unanimous Congress vote
by Garth of Christmas Future » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:12 pm

Seems to me that the Trump administration is panicking about the ongoing investigation. Lashing out with misleading stuff like this just makes them look more guilty.

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PostRe: US Politics - Trump refuses to implement Russia sanctions, defying near-unanimous Congress vote
by Ho-Ho-Ho-tek » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:25 pm

I love Rachel Maddow, she’s the perfect antidote to Hannity.

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PostRe: US Politics - Trump refuses to implement Russia sanctions, defying near-unanimous Congress vote
by lex-man » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:44 pm

captain red dog wrote:Wait so the warrant used to order surveillance on a Trump aid was based on the pissing dossier which was financed by Clinton?


I thought the dossier was originally paid for by Republicans running against Trump who then handed it to Clinton after they lost the primaries?


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