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by Garth » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:56 am

Benzin wrote:To be fair, why does the role of Energy Secretary look after their nuclear weapons?


You'd think though that a major politician who ran his campaign on eliminating the Department of Energy would maybe have thought to check what it actually does.

The man he's replacing is a nuclear physicist.

What a shitshow.

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by Alvin Flummux » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:41 am

I understand that research into the job you're about to run the Senate gamut for is probably well beyond Rick Perry's exceedingly small set of skills, but the man has an entire strawberry floating staff that can do that job, and spoon feed him bite-sized lay terms generally outlining what he's in for. Where the hell were they?


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by Hexx » Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:31 am

Do we have a Wikileaks/Assange accused of being Rapist thread?

He's backed down on saying (last week) he'd accept extradition to the US if Manning got clemency.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style ... 33911.html

The commitment to accept extradition to the US was based on Ms Manning being released immediately, Mr Assange's lawyer told The Hill. Ms Manning won't actually be released until May – to allow for a standard 120-day transition period, which gives people time to prepare and find somewhere to live, an official told The New York Times for its original report about Ms Manning's clemency.

“Mr. Assange welcomes the announcement that Ms. Manning's sentence will be reduced and she will be released in May, but this is well short of what he sought,” Barry Pollack, Assange’s US-based attorney, told the site. “Mr. Assange had called for Chelsea Manning to receive clemency and be released immediately.”

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Peter Crisp » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:51 am

Garth wrote:
Benzin wrote:To be fair, why does the role of Energy Secretary look after their nuclear weapons?


You'd think though that a major politician who ran his campaign on eliminating the Department of Energy would maybe have thought to check what it actually does.

The man he's replacing is a nuclear physicist.

What a shitshow.


Yeah but I bet he went to one of those shitty liberal universities so his degree means less than nothing as I imagine it was 99% sowing circles and lessons about white privilege. He may just about know what an atom is and the definition of the word nuclear but obviously Mr Perry knows loads more than that.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Hexx » Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:49 am

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by Alvin Flummux » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:36 pm

Trump has deep seated issues which may be causing his campaign of de-legitimizing everyone critical of him. Also other things, courtesy of an interview with his biographers.

D’Antonio: Those early influences are essential, and I also think it’s correct that he has been conducting his entire life as a vanity show, and he’s been rewarded, most recently since his reality TV show, by ever-greater public interest in him. This is a guy who is a president-elect who describes himself as a ratings machine, which is an absolutely absurd thing for a president to be reflecting on, but that matters to him.

But one thing I think that we have overlooked as we see Trump trying to delegitimize others is what I suspect is a feeling he has inside that nothing he’s ever achieved himself has ever been legitimate. This is a person who has never known whether anybody wants to be around him because he’s a person they want to be around or they want to be around his money. And since he’s promoted himself as this glamorous, incredibly wealthy person, that’s the draw he’s always given. So he doesn’t know if he has any legitimate relationships outside of his family, and that’s why he emphasizes family. … He’s always kind of gaming the system—not, in my view, winning on the merits. And even his election was with almost 3 million fewer votes than his opponent. So he has this deep fear that he is himself not a legitimate president, and I think that’s why he goes to such great lengths to delegitimize even the intelligence community, which is the president’s key resource in security, and he’s going to do this demeaning and delegitimizing behavior rather than accept what they have to tell him.

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O’Brien: Don’t you think it’s kind of ironic that the one person who might be more a defender of democratic institutions is a general that he’s putting in charge of the Pentagon?

Blair: Who’d have thought?

O’Brien: General [James] Mattis is the one person who seems extremely well-read and committed to a sort of well-rounded view of power and how the country works and he could impose some moderating influence on Trump. I think that’s amazing to think that we’re all hoping for that to happen in the person of a general who had to get a waiver to serve in the post.

Kruse: These are people who have been successful in their areas. They have also giant egos. They know a lot, more than he does. Do you think he is going to take their advice?

O’Brien: At the end of the day, the two most powerful people in his White House, other than him, are going to be Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump, and they’re going to have the final say on everything. And whatever Gary Cohn or Rex Tillerson or General Mattis or Jeff Sessions or Steve Bannon has to say, it will all end up getting filtered through Javanka.

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Kruse: So, last question. At night, when it’s dark and it’s quiet and he’s not sleeping at the top of Trump Tower, do you think Donald Trump is worried that he’s in over his head?

Blair: Not in the least. No.

D’Antonio: I would say not in the least.

Blair: No, no. He’s like, “This is the best thing that’s ever happened.” He’s won the biggest contest there is. He’s got the world’s attention solid for the next four years.


http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... 5?lo=ap_c1

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Preezy » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:42 pm

"Javanka" - have a day off.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Alvin Flummux » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:11 pm

Preezy wrote:"Javanka" - have a day off.


Strap yourself in and feel the G's!

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by Meep » Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:09 pm

It occurred to me today that both Trump and Putin have some major thing in common; they are both enemies of Europe its people. Both of them desire the fracturing and disintegration of European relations so that its nations can be made vassals and dependents on the US and Russia. The EU and NATO are the main barriers to that scenario (the EU in terms of economic cooperation, NATO in terms of military cooperation) so it's no surprise both of them are backing their demise. The main difference here is that Putin is at least tactful enough not spell it out loud, whereas Trump openly backs Brexit as a 'great thing' and expresses hope that other countries follow the example whilst threatening NATO.

These are dark times. What was once the ally of this continent is now openly hostile to it and we are now surrounded by enemies even while they pose as our friends.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Monkey Man » Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:56 pm

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Garth » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:01 am

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Very low energy, no stamina. Sad!

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by KK » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:40 am

Trump tonight, post Valium:

"We have a lot of smart people. I tell you what, one thing we've learned, we have by far the highest IQ of any cabinet ever assembled."

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by Alvin Flummux » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:45 am

KKLEIN wrote:Trump tonight, post Valium:

"We have a lot of smart people. I tell you what, one thing we've learned, we have by far the highest IQ of any cabinet ever assembled."


He mistook highest combined bank balance for IQ. Bless.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Floex » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:35 am

The 'USR' fireworks are amazing :lol:

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Alvin Flummux » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:38 am

USR? :lol:

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You don't know how lucky you are boy,
Back in the US,
Back in the US,
Back in the USR!
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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Squinty » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:32 am

KKLEIN wrote:Trump tonight, post Valium:

"We have a lot of smart people. I tell you what, one thing we've learned, we have by far the highest IQ of any cabinet ever assembled."


Those other cabinets must have been pretty stupid.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Moggy » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:39 am

Squinty wrote:
KKLEIN wrote:Trump tonight, post Valium:

"We have a lot of smart people. I tell you what, one thing we've learned, we have by far the highest IQ of any cabinet ever assembled."


Those other cabinets must have been pretty stupid.


He's comparing his team's IQ to a drinks cabinet.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Rex Kramer » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:45 am

Moggy wrote:
Squinty wrote:
KKLEIN wrote:Trump tonight, post Valium:

"We have a lot of smart people. I tell you what, one thing we've learned, we have by far the highest IQ of any cabinet ever assembled."


Those other cabinets must have been pretty stupid.


He's comparing his team's IQ to a drinks cabinet.

I think he's been to Ikea again and is really happy with the bang up job he did knocking together a Brimnes. Takes a special kinda guy to work out all those instructions and tighten up those bolts (with such small hands).

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