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by Memento Mori » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:58 pm

There are just too many stories. Jesus Christ.

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Can you imagine the GOP reaction if a similar revelation had been made about Obama?

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by Peter Crisp » Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:36 am

The hypocrisy with the republicans and Fox News is off the charts.
They spend years telling people that lack of family values is killing America then go and get behind Trump and have the audacity to claim that his indiscretions are not important because his supporters aren't bothered by them. If anyone else did half of what Trump has they would be going insane about it and they know it but they're so delusional they can deny that fact even to themselves.

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by Alvin Flummux » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:04 am

Comey's book is getting a ton of press attention...









https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... 99854bea0c

Expect some crazy-go-nuts Trump tweet storms over the next couple of weeks. :lol:

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by Garth of Christmas Future » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:22 am

Apparently Mueller is no longer looking to interview Trump, after the lawyer raids:
Trump, Mueller teams prepare to move forward without presidential interview
Monday’s raid on Trump’s personal lawyer upended talks for the president to sit down with investigators.

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s office and President Donald Trump’s legal team are now proceeding with strategies that presume a presidential interview will likely not take place as part of the Russia investigation, after months of talks between the two sides collapsed earlier this week, according to multiple people familiar with the matter.

On Monday Trump’s lawyers were discussing a possible interview with Mueller's team and had begun to hash out the final sticking points, including the timing, scope and length, according to people familiar with the discussions. One person familiar with the strategy said the president’s lawyers had sought over the weekend to expand his legal team to include individuals who would prepare him for an interview. Another person familiar with the matter, however, said preparations had not yet gone that far.

But the prospects for a presidential interview drastically dimmed once the FBI raided the home, office and hotel room of Trump’s long-time personal lawyer, Michael Cohen on Monday, these people said. The president criticized the raid as out of bounds in Mueller’s investigation into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election and possible collusion with Trump aides.

The president’s lawyers wanted any interview to last only a few hours, according to one person familiar with the matter. They also wanted Mueller to agree to write a report within at least three or four months after completing the interview, this person said.

Prior to Monday’s raid, Mueller’s team had been aiming to finalize a report on its findings on whether the president has tried to obstruct justice in the Russia investigation in the coming months, as early as May or as late as July, three sources said. That timeline hinged in part on reaching a decision on a presidential interview, these people said. One person familiar with the investigation described a decision on an interview as one of the last steps Mueller was seeking to take before closing his investigation into obstruction.

Now, according to two sources, Mueller’s team may be able to close the obstruction probe more quickly as they will not need to prepare for the interview or follow up on what the president says.

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It's possible that they found recordings during the raids:
Trump’s allies worry that federal investigators may have seized recordings made by his attorney

President Trump’s personal attorney Michael D. Cohen sometimes taped conversations with associates, according to three people familiar with his practice, and allies of the president are worried that the recordings were seized by federal investigators in a raid of Cohen’s office and residences this week.

Cohen, who served for a decade as a lawyer at the Trump Organization and is a close confidant of Trump, was known to store the conversations using digital files and then replay them for colleagues, according to people who have interacted with him.

“We heard he had some proclivity to make tapes,” said one Trump adviser, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation. “Now we are wondering, who did he tape? Did he store those someplace where they were actually seized? . . . Did they find his recordings?”

Cohen did not respond to requests for comment. Stephen Ryan, an attorney for Cohen, declined to comment. A White House spokeswoman referred a request for comment to Cohen and his attorney.

It is unknown whether Cohen taped conversations between himself and Trump. But two people familiar with Cohen’s practices said he recorded both business and political conversations. One associate said Trump knew of Cohen’s practice because the attorney would often play him recordings Cohen had made of his conversations with other top Trump advisers.

“It was his standard practice to do it,” this person said.

Legal experts said Cohen’s taped conversations would be viewed by prosecutors as highly valuable.

“If you are looking for evidence, you can’t do any better than people talking on tape,” said Nick Akerman, a former Watergate prosecutor.

Such recordings “would be considered a gold mine,” said Stephen Gillers, a law professor at New York University who specializes in legal ethics.

“The significance is 9.5 to 10 on a 10-point scale,” he added, noting that investigators know “that when people speak on the phone, they are not guarded. They don’t imagine that the conversation will surface.”

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by Garth of Christmas Future » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:31 am



Interesting tweet from President FAKE NEWS WITCH HUNT NO COLLUSION NO OBSTRUCTION IT'S A DISGRACE BUT HER EMAILS BIASED FBI ATTACK ON AMERICA YOU'RE FIRED:

Probably the most cooperative, disciplined guy ever. UNLIKE THE CLINTONS!

Reads like some kind of lawyer ass-covering.

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by Garth of Christmas Future » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:56 am

This is gold:
A [Republican] Congressman's Profanity Laced Tirade in a Safeway Grocery Store
One of the President's congressional defenders has privately decided he hates Trump and wants to unload.

"If we're going to lose because of him, we might as well impeach the motherf**ker," said the congressman as we roamed the aisles of a Safeway grocery store together. I haven't been in a Safeway since my family moved home from Dubai in 1990. The congressman did not want to be seen with me on Capitol Hill. He needed to get some stuff anyway and decided he'd let me walk with him through the cereal and dairy selections at the Safeway near my hotel. He is not happy with President Trump. He was never a die hard Trump supporter. He supported him in the general and never expected him to win. But he did. So the congressman, whose district Trump won, has been a regular supporter on Fox News and elsewhere defending the President. He is happy to be quoted, so long as I don't name him. He says he just needs to vent. I suggest what we're doing is one of the reason's Trump won -- a congressman says nice things in public and bad things in private.

"Everybody does this sh*t," he says. It's his turn. We have known each other for years and have been promising to connect this week while I'm passing through DC. So this is it. I'm passing along his comments, not endorsing them.

"I read you writing about this, about wanting to say nice things when you can and criticize when you need to. He may be an idiot, but he's still the President and leader of my party and he is capable of doing some things right," he says before conceding it's usually other people doing the right things in the President's name. "But dammit he's taking us all down with him. We are well and truly f**ked in November. Kevin [McCarthy] is already circling like a green fly circling sh*t trying to take Paul's [Ryan] job because nobody thinks he's sticking around for Nancy [Pelosi]. She's going to f**k up the cafeteria again too. [Lord's name in vain], at least I'll probably lose too and won't have to put up with that sh*t." He won't lose. His district is very Republican.

What's the problem, though? Well, get ready…

"It's like Forrest Gump won the presidency, but an evil, really f*cking stupid Forrest Gump. He can't help himself. He's just a f**king idiot who thinks he's winning when people are b*tching about him. He really does see the world as ratings and attention. I hate Forrest Gump. I listen to your podcast and heard you hate it too. What an overrated piece of sh*t movie. Can you believe it beat the Shawshank Redemption?"

We deviated to Stephen Speilberg for a moment and I had to remind him Robert Zemeckis, not Speilberg, directed it. Then I had to point out his taste in coffee sucks and suggested better. Moving right along…

"Judiciary is stacked with a bunch of people who can win re-election so long as they don't piss off Trump voters in the primary. But if we get to summer and most of the primaries are over, they just might pull the trigger if the President fires Mueller. The sh*t will hit the fan if that happens and I'd vote to impeach him myself. Most of us would, I think. Hell, all the Democrats would and you only need a majority in the House. If we're going to lose because of him, we might as well impeach the motherf**ker. Take him out with us and let Mike [Pence] take over. At least then we could sleep well at night," he said before going off on a tangent about how the situations with Russia and China scare him. Then, "You know having Mike as President would really piss off all the right people, too. They think they hate Trump. Mike is competent," at which point he sighs and laments that there were, in his mind, more than a dozen competent choices in 2016.

So the implication is they wouldn't vote for impeachment if they might be opposed in primaries, I asked. He confirmed he does not think the votes are there to impeach the President if any of the Judiciary Committee members are facing primary opponents. But get through that and, if Mueller is fired, he thinks so and thinks a majority of the House would vote to impeach President Trump.

"I say a lot of gooseberry fool on TV defending him, even over this. But honestly, I wish the motherf*cker would just go away. We're going to lose the House, lose the Senate, and lose a bunch of states because of him. All his supporters will blame us for what we have or have not done, but he hasn't led. He wakes up in the morning, sh*ts all over Twitter, sh*ts all over us, sh*ts all over his staff, then hits golf balls. F*ck him. Of course, I can't say that in public or I'd get run out of town."

The congressman's base loves the President. And we're done. He feels better having let it all out. It was a funny conversation with a few additional remarks about the President's personal life I dare not print.

And yes, I agree, it is bad form to say all this in private while publicly praising the President. Welcome to Donald Trump's Washington. Everybody does this sh*t here.

https://www.themaven.net/theresurgent/e ... aw/?full=1

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I hope he's right when he says most of them would vote to impeach Trump if he goes after Mueller.

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PostRe: US Politics - FBI raids office, NY residence and home of Trump's personal lawyer
by Alvin Flummux » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:16 pm

Peter Crisp wrote:The hypocrisy with the republicans and Fox News is off the charts.
They spend years telling people that lack of family values is killing America then go and get behind Trump and have the audacity to claim that his indiscretions are not important because his supporters aren't bothered by them. If anyone else did half of what Trump has they would be going insane about it and they know it but they're so delusional they can deny that fact even to themselves.


Values and morality have been partisan for a long time. How many Democrats ignored or otherwise excused Clinton's affair(s)? How often do we judge JFK harshly for his? We only care about them when someone on other side is exposed, and look past our own side's indiscretions. That's why so many Trump voters have proven impervious to his numerous scandals and misdeeds.

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by lex-man » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:29 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:The hypocrisy with the republicans and Fox News is off the charts.
They spend years telling people that lack of family values is killing America then go and get behind Trump and have the audacity to claim that his indiscretions are not important because his supporters aren't bothered by them. If anyone else did half of what Trump has they would be going insane about it and they know it but they're so delusional they can deny that fact even to themselves.


Values and morality have been partisan for a long time. How many Democrats ignored or otherwise excused Clinton's affair(s)? How often do we judge JFK harshly for his? We only care about them when someone on other side is exposed, and look past our own side's indiscretions. That's why so many Trump voters have proven impervious to his numerous scandals and misdeeds.


To be fair the current republicans seem more focused on the family values stuff. I've seen democratic commentators bring up Trump's improprietes as proof that the Republicans are hipocrites but they're not personally that bothered by his cheating.

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by Preezy » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:33 pm

Alvin's right. The Democrats were more than happy to bask in Obama's glory despite him not even being born in America and having a transvestite for a wife.

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by Squinty » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:56 pm

Trump's Comey tweets. He's strawberry floating rattled.

Let's start bombing the gooseberry fool out of a country to deflect attention away.

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PostRe: US Politics - Republican Congressman: Trump's like an evil, really f*cking stupid Forrest Gump
by Alvin Flummux » Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:39 pm

I can't wait for the book tour to begin. Trump's going to go off the rails. Wouldn't be surprised if we find out in a few months that he tried to have Comey arrested to prevent the tour.

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PostRe: US Politics - Republican Congressman: Trump's like an evil, really f*cking stupid Forrest Gump
by Hexx » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:35 pm

He’s pardoned Scooty Libby!

Edit - In the official statement ‘"I don't know Mr. Libby, but for years I have heard that he has been treated unfairly."

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by Tineash » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:41 pm

I've stopped posting in this thread, because there's just nothing left to say

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by Alvin Flummux » Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:39 pm

Hexx wrote:He’s pardoned Scooty Libby!

Edit - In the official statement ‘"I don't know Mr. Libby, but for years I have heard that he has been treated unfairly."


Man, just wait until he hears he pardoned a guy who illegally outed an agent. :lol: The ironing!


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