US Politics - Mueller subpoenas Trump's Deutsche Bank accounts

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by $ilva $hadow » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:06 pm

Here's hoping and praying that we get Jerusalem declared as the capital, and slowly islam dies a death in the middle east. Feel bad for the palestinians, but Israel prevailing over islam is the lesser of two evils.

We need the world to move on from just appeasing islam, and giving in to their demands. The followers of islam in all islamic nations overwhelmingly support the idea of destruction of everything non islamic. Why should anyone extend kindness to such an evil ideology? To claim being peaceful and being muslim is an oxymoron.

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by Dual » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:13 pm

^^
Finally someone talking real sense itt.

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by Preezy » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:18 pm

$ilva $hadow wrote:Here's hoping and praying that we get Jerusalem declared as the capital

Think we've all had quite enough of that already in this situation thank you very much.

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by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:19 pm

$ilva $hadow wrote:Here's hoping and praying that we get Jerusalem declared as the capital,


I am sure that will help with the peace process...

and slowly islam dies a death in the middle east. Feel bad for the palestinians, but Israel prevailing over islam is the lesser of two evils.


Islam is not going to die anytime soon. And Israel prevailing over it isn't going to happen unless Israel are planning on invading every other country in the Middle East.

We need the world to move on from just appeasing islam, and giving in to their demands.


Citation needed.

The followers of islam in all islamic nations overwhelmingly support the idea of destruction of everything non islamic.


Citation needed.

Why should anyone extend kindness to such an evil ideology? To claim being peaceful and being muslim is an oxymoron.


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by Garth » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:20 pm

All it does is drive more people to extremist views and cause more tension in the Middle East.

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PostRe: US Politics - Mueller subpoenas Trump's Deutsche Bank accounts
by KK » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:20 pm

Send in peace envoy, Tony Blair.

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by $ilva $hadow » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:38 pm

Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:
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Saying hello to Trump, trying to equate anyone that doesn't like islam by calling them Trump in order to invoke ideas of racism really doesn't help anything at all.

This is what followers of the islamic faith need to stop doing. They will even stoop as low as calling exmuslims 'racists' in order to shame them.

Virtue signalling for islam is ridiculous. You're not better than anyone just because you're trying to fly some flag of equality.

I do not support tolerance of intolerence. Not supporting islam, siding with the israelis, none of that is akin to trump or racism.


You know what is driving people to extremist views and causing more tension? It's the existence of islam amongst uneducated populaces and pushing that vile level of thinking onto children which is causing extremist views. It's like putting a loaded gun down in a nursery full of retarded kids. Someone is going to get shot, and then the idiot virtue signallers will rush out claiming that not all retarded people should have guns taken away from them because the majority of them don't shoot each other.


That's about all I have to say on this matter. Anyone trying to virtue signal for islam, is just a misguided piece of gooseberry fool who hasn't really read the quran, and are just out to make themselves look like beautiful white knights of equality and justice. It's disgusting and all it does is further victimise the victims of islam.

You can't logic your way out of something if you didn't logic yourself into it. Followers of islam who take up arms against non muslims or spout rhetoric or even vote in pew polls in support of gay killings and killing non muslims, those are the people who deserve a bullet and why we have an army. Those who do not support islamic teachings such as being able to strawberry float kids because mohammad did, being able to kill non muslims, being about peace only, these are not muslims according to the quran and trying to pretend they are muslims does more harm than good.

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by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:47 pm

$ilva $hadow wrote: or even vote in pew polls in support of gay killings and killing non muslims, those are the people who deserve a bullet and why we have an army.


People who vote in a poll deserve a bullet? :lol:

I am not responding again. Your views are abhorrent and are basically just the other side of the coin to the Islamic extremists that you say you despise. The very fact you used words like “virtue signalling” and “white knighting” shows the level of debate you are capable of and it is really not worth my time.

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by Garth » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:49 pm

I think all religions are gooseberry fool but I don't see the connection between Trump declaring Jerusalem the capital of Israel and the end of Islam, a religion followed by over 1.8 billion people around the world. It's a dumb move which will just push more people into extremism.

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by *<]:^D » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:50 pm

hey Silva Shadow, can you piss off again? thx

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by EberKneesUp » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:51 pm

$ilva really mellowed out in his time away, then. :roll:

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by Tell Karl his brother is dead » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:52 pm

Every religious text has bits in that say "kill outsiders, and if you don't, you'll go to hell." Every religion has been used to justify violence. You must be actually for-real very thick to think it's only Islam that has nutters.

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by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:53 pm

Garth wrote:I think all religions are gooseberry fool but I don't see the connection between Trump declaring Jerusalem the capital of Israel and the end of Islam, a religion followed by over 1.8 billion people around the world. It's a dumb move which will just push more people into extremism.


Exactly. The vast majority of Muslims are peaceful and will remain so no matter what Trump says, but Trump declaring Jerusalem to be the capital of Israel is only going to inflame things and make it far easier for groups like ISIS to recruit new supporters.

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by Advent7 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:12 pm

I blame the gourmet crusaders

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by Rudolphin » Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:23 pm

Can someone make a "When is $ilva going away?" thread plz

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by $ilva $hadow » Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:36 pm

Tell Karl his brother is dead wrote:Every religious text has bits in that say "kill outsiders, and if you don't, you'll go to hell." Every religion has been used to justify violence. You must be actually for-real very thick to think it's only Islam that has nutters.



Except I don't 'for-real' believe that it's only islam that has these nutters.

See this is the problem with this one religion in this very moment in time. You talk about islam, and some white dude who knows nothing (no offence staydad) about islam, will tell you how abhorrent you are for thinking no other religion has dirty texts like these. People like that will conveniently ignore what has been said, and respond to what they think was said, or what they think they heard or they will try to combat some perceived idea that was never said.

So any time we talk about islam, we have to hear everyone who wants to be seen as far way from racist, mention that christianity has these texts or some other religion, conveniently ignoring again that those texts in those religions directly influenced violence and those ways of thinking. If we talk about christianity, no one jumps on the bandwagon to say how islam is so bad with these texts. When we talk about violence against women (domestic abuse and misogyny in marriages and relationships), we don't try to sideline the issue by saying women are just as bad as men and that it's not only men who do it. Who walks into a womens domestic violence shelter and berates them for being around women only when not all men in the world are bad? In fact 99 percent of the men in this world are peaceful, yet look at most of the violent people doing crazy stuff, they're all men.

All a bunch of nonsense, fallacies and virtue signalling to show how not racist people are.


Try actually reading the quran, try not to be a white person asking a brown person "hey violence is bad, don't you agree?". Try to be a brown person who grows up around muslims, try being a brown person around 9/11 and your peaceful muslim friends think you're open to influence, try listening to them laugh about 9/11. Try being brown and not having muslims lie to your face about what islam is. If you're white, your view on islam is more likely warped because you believe the lies that islam followers spread in the face of a culture that demonises violence against women and gays.

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by $ilva $hadow » Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:39 pm

Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:
$ilva $hadow wrote: or even vote in pew polls in support of gay killings and killing non muslims, those are the people who deserve a bullet and why we have an army.


People who vote in a poll deserve a bullet? :lol:

I am not responding again. Your views are abhorrent and are basically just the other side of the coin to the Islamic extremists that you say you despise. The very fact you used words like “virtue signalling” and “white knighting” shows the level of debate you are capable of and it is really not worth my time.




What you're advocating is tolerance of intolerance. What you're trying to imply is that I'm for killing innocent muslims out of nowhere, which is false.

I just think that a vote carries power, and if you vote for intolerance, you should have intolerance inflicted upon you. Think about what voting really is. You're enforcing something through force, you're voting for a government body to enforce something with the threat of violence. What does that say if you vote to have gays thrown off buildings or tortured to death? What does that say if you vote to have non muslims put to death?

You want to think in terms of nonsense and lies,to make yourself feel better, so you can say "awwwww they're all evil, I'm the only good one over here." It's lame and retarded though.

Feel free to despise me, but don't do it under false pretences. I'm not advocating for the killing of anyone except those that offer violence first. If you're a religious bigot and you want to pick up a rifle, then you deserve the bullet. If you pick up violence in the name of your religion, you deserve violence. There is no reasoning with violence and ignorance. You can only save those willing to listen, but those who aren't willing to listen, and advocate for shariah law and islamic values which are obviously violent? They deserve the bullet if they don't want to go back to their own country and suffer under those disgusting laws.

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by OrangeReindeer » Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:56 pm

Jerusalem being recognised as the capital of Israel by the US will increase tensions in the region, and I fail to see how it contribute to a decline in islam. If you want to reduce religiously motivated violence, you should promote religious tolerance. If there are beliefs and behaviour you want removed from the world (as well we should with the issues you mention such as misogyny and homophobia), history would suggest reformation and moderation as a more viable strategy than conflict and repression.

The moderate Christianity common here in the UK wasn't achieved through demonising the religion and its followers. It has been achieved with religious tolerance and freedom.

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by Tell Karl his brother is dead » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:24 pm

$ilva $hadow wrote:
Tell Karl his brother is dead wrote:Every religious text has bits in that say "kill outsiders, and if you don't, you'll go to hell." Every religion has been used to justify violence. You must be actually for-real very thick to think it's only Islam that has nutters.

Except I don't 'for-real' believe that it's only islam that has these nutters.

Then why are you singling them out as a whole religion? If you said "all religion is stupid" I would be behind you. If you said "ISIS are pricks" then yeah, for sure. If you said "Hamas should stop launching rockets" then I would basically agree (though I don't think it's quite that simple).

What you've done is come into a tenuously related topic to rant about how you think Islam is in some sense inherently 'bad':

$ilva $hadow wrote:The followers of islam in all islamic nations overwhelmingly support the idea of destruction of everything non islamic. Why should anyone extend kindness to such an evil ideology? To claim being peaceful and being muslim is an oxymoron. [...] You know what is driving people to extremist views and causing more tension? It's the existence of islam amongst uneducated populaces

Beyond some of it being demonstrably false, that's just not the mindset of a sensible person that's concerned about beating ISIS and stopping terrorism. It's the mindset of a crazy alt-righter.

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by Squinty » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:41 pm

KK wrote:Send in peace envoy, Tony Blair.


TONTY BLAIR?!?!?


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