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by Monkey Man » Wed May 17, 2017 7:26 pm



2.30pm our time, not sure if it's an open hearing.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - FBI Memo: Trump Tried to End Flynn Investigation
by Alvin Flummux » Wed May 17, 2017 8:20 pm

Monkey Man wrote:

2.30pm our time, not sure if it's an open hearing.


Cillizza: The big question is when/whether Comey will testify before Congress about his meetings and interactions with Trump -- among other things. What's your read on that?

Lichtblau: He'll almost certainly testify, and it should be one for the history books: Newly exiled FBI director pitted against the president who fired him. Add backdrop of Russian election influence. Cue the grainy Watergate photos of Sam Ervin and Howard Baker. And remember Comey has always had quite a flair for drama, as we saw exactly 10 years ago when he testified in the Senate about his famous hospital-room showdown with George W. Bush's White House aides at John Ashcroft's bedside. We could get a hearing in the next few weeks, if not sooner, and my guess is that Comey will insist it happen in public, not behind closed doors.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/17/politics/ ... index.html

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - FBI Memo: Trump Tried to End Flynn Investigation
by Garth » Wed May 17, 2017 9:27 pm


Took them long enough.

Also:
The American Civil Liberties Union today filed a Freedom of Information Act request with the Justice Department and FBI seeking the memo by former FBI Director James Comey describing his February meeting with President Trump in which Trump reportedly asked Comey to drop the investigation into former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn and his ties to Russia. The request also covers any other documents related to communications between Trump and Comey.

https://www.aclu.org/news/aclu-files-ge ... nversation

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - FBI Memo: Trump Tried to End Flynn Investigation
by Peter Crisp » Wed May 17, 2017 9:41 pm

Are they allowed to schedule the hearings to take place in the Colosseum in Rome :shifty: .

Would be pretty epic and we all know Trump loves epic.

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Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - FBI Memo: Trump Tried to End Flynn Investigation
by Cuttooth » Wed May 17, 2017 9:42 pm

From the sounds of it, it won't take a FoI request to hear what Comey has to say. :lol:

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - FBI Memo: Trump Tried to End Flynn Investigation
by Garth » Wed May 17, 2017 10:09 pm


:dread:

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - FBI Memo: Trump Tried to End Flynn Investigation
by Alvin Flummux » Wed May 17, 2017 10:39 pm

Garth wrote:
:dread:


He still has a scary amount of power. :dread:

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - FBI Memo: Trump Tried to End Flynn Investigation
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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - FBI Memo: Trump Tried to End Flynn Investigation
by Garth » Wed May 17, 2017 11:09 pm

More infos:
DOJ Appoints Special Counsel To Investigate Russia Ties

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein has appointed former FBI Director Robert Mueller to serve as special counsel overseeing the investigation into Russian influence in the 2016 presidential election.

In a statement, Rosenstein stressed that his decision “is not a finding that crimes have been committed or that any prosecution is warranted.” But he said he’d determined “based upon the unique circumstances, the public interest requires me to place this investigation under the authority of a person who exercises a degree of independence from the normal chain of command.”

Attorney General Jeff Sessions recused himself in March from Russia matters after he failed to disclose during his confirmation hearing he had met with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/doj ... 485cae5465

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - FBI Memo: Trump Tried to End Flynn Investigation
by Garth » Wed May 17, 2017 11:20 pm

House majority leader to colleagues in 2016: ‘I think Putin pays’ Trump

A month before Donald Trump clinched the Republican nomination, one of his closest allies in Congress — House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy — made a politically explosive assertion in a private conversation on Capitol Hill with his fellow GOP leaders: that Trump could be the beneficiary of payments from Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016 exchange, which was listened to and verified by The Washington Post. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher is a Californian Republican known in Congress as a fervent defender of Putin and Russia.

House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) immediately interjected, stopping the conversation from further exploring McCarthy’s assertion, and swore the Republicans present to secrecy.

Before the conversation, McCarthy and Ryan had emerged from separate talks at the U.S. Capitol with Ukrainian Prime Minister Volodymyr Groysman, who had described a Kremlin tactic of financing populist politicians to undercut Eastern European democratic institutions.

News had just broken the day before in The Washington Post that Russian government hackers had penetrated the computer network of the Democratic National Committee, prompting McCarthy to shift the conversation from Russian meddling in Europe to events closer to home.

Some of the lawmakers laughed at McCarthy’s comment. Then McCarthy quickly added: “Swear to God.”

Ryan instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying: “No leaks...This is how we know we’re a real family here.”

The remarks remained secret for nearly a year.

The conversation provides a glimpse at the internal views of GOP leaders who now find themselves under mounting pressure over the conduct of President Trump. The exchange shows that the Republican leadership in the House privately discussed Russia’s involvement in the 2016 election and Trump’s relationship to Putin, but wanted to keep their concerns secret. It is difficult to tell from the recording the extent to which the remarks were meant to be taken literally.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... 2a5a729c04

Transcript (worth reading, they talk about Russian propaganda in Europe too):
https://assets.documentcloud.org/docume ... -among.pdf

Reaction from Republicans:
When initially asked to comment on the exchange, Brendan Buck, a spokesman for Ryan, said: “That never happened,” and Matt Sparks, a spokesman for McCarthy, said: “The idea that McCarthy would assert this is absurd and false.”

After being told that The Post would cite a recording of the exchange, Buck, speaking for the GOP House leadership, said: “This entire year-old exchange was clearly an attempt at humor. No one believed the majority leader was seriously asserting that Donald Trump or any of our members were being paid by the Russians. What’s more, the speaker and leadership team have repeatedly spoken out against Russia’s interference in our election, and the House continues to investigate that activity.”

“This was a failed attempt at humor,” Sparks said.


Republicans: "Fake news!"
Washington Post: "We have audio proof"
Republicans: "Lol, jk!"

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - FBI Memo: Trump Tried to End Flynn Investigation
by Garth » Wed May 17, 2017 11:30 pm

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - FBI Memo: Trump Tried to End Flynn Investigation
by Garth » Wed May 17, 2017 11:39 pm

NBC:

CNBC:

NBC again:

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Special Counsel Appointed for Independent Russia Investigation
by Garth » Thu May 18, 2017 12:02 am

Mueller was FBI Director for 12 years before Comey, during Bush and Obama administrations, and apparently he has a great reputation.

No comment from Mitch McConnell:

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Special Counsel Appointed for Independent Russia Investigation
by Alvin Flummux » Thu May 18, 2017 12:08 am

I honestly didn't think we'd see a special counsel appointed while the GOP still held both houses.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Special Counsel Appointed for Independent Russia Investigation
by Garth » Thu May 18, 2017 12:12 am

Alvin Flummux wrote:I honestly didn't think we'd see a special counsel appointed while the GOP still held both houses.

I bet Jeff Sessions regrets recusing himself from the Russia stuff, and Rosenstein didn't seem at all happy to be initially named as one of the reasons why Trump fired Comey - maybe that and what's happened in recent days spurred him into action.

Rosenstein on Monday:
If you ask me, one of the main problems in Washington, DC, is that everybody is so busy running around trying to protect their reputation instead of protecting the public which is what they're supposed to be doing.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/16/polit ... in-speech/

CNN is reporting that recused Attorney General Jeff Sessions wasn't informed about the special counsel appointment until after Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein signed the order:

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Special Counsel Appointed for Independent Russia Investigation
by Garth » Thu May 18, 2017 12:28 am

White House statement:
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CNN is reporting that Mueller can get access to Trump's tax returns if he wishes:

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Special Counsel Appointed for Independent Russia Investigation
by Alvin Flummux » Thu May 18, 2017 1:11 am

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Special Counsel Appointed for Independent Russia Investigation
by Garth » Thu May 18, 2017 1:57 am

Former President of Mexico:

:lol:

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Special Counsel Appointed for Independent Russia Investigation
by Dual » Thu May 18, 2017 7:09 am

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Garth wrote:Former President of Mexico:

:lol:


:lol:

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