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by Lex-Man » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:21 pm

Peter Crisp wrote:I have a feeling that the day before Trump ever gets indicted he'll just fire everyone and appoint himself to every job.
Surely running every government department on his own can't be that hard, I bet the old Top Gear team could manage it :slol: .


It'll be a challenge on the next season of their Amazon series.

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by Alvin Flummux » Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:31 am

Rex Kramer wrote:You have to imagine that McCabe will have lawyers queuing round the block if he's denied his pension.


After Attorney General Jeff Sessions on Friday carried through on an FBI recommendation to fire former bureau Deputy Director Andrew McCabe on the eve of his planned retirement, a massive legal imbroglio seems inevitable.

However, lawyers say McCabe’s legal options are few because most FBI employees have little legal recourse over attempts to punish them over alleged misconduct.

“I don’t see an obvious path for recourse,” said Katherine Atkinson, a Washington lawyer who represents federal workers. “FBI employees generally do not have those rights.”

Officials at the FBI had recommended that McCabe be fired, upending his plans to retire on Sunday. The precise allegations against McCabe remain unclear, but he has been accused of a lack of candor during a review by the Justice Department inspector general into decisions made at the FBI in advance of the 2016 election.

McCabe on Thursday took his appeal in person to senior officials in the office of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. The former No. 2 official at the FBI was seen arriving for an afternoon meeting at Justice Department headquarters, across the street from the FBI’s Hoover Building.

The decision put the embattled attorney general in an exceedingly awkward spot. Dismissing McCabe surely pleased President Donald Trump, who has repeatedly slammed McCabe on Twitter and in person. But the federal government does not normally fire high-ranking career officials with 22 years of service except in the face of extraordinary evidence of serious wrongdoing.

“To look at removing a person, potentially, two days before they retire, the factual basis of this has got to be really, really strong for them to do that,” said Michael Rochford, a former head of the FBI’s counterintelligence section.

The FBI is likely to be divided about the decision's legitimacy, bureau veterans said.

“People are going to retreat to their side of: Do we love Trump or hate Trump?” said James Gagliano, a former FBI agent who is now a professor at St. John’s University in New York. “The timing sucks, because it looks like this is set to happen as Trump tweets something and now they’re rushing to get this guy. It just looks awful. The one person I would not want to be now is Sessions.”

“If Andy is guilty of lying,” Gagliano added, “he deserves to be fired, but this thing is not going to look good.”


A prolonged legal battle could exacerbate tensions at the FBI and undermine Director Christopher Wray’s efforts to restore a sense of normalcy after Trump’s high-profile firing of James Comey as director last year and a more recent showdown with the White House over declassification of a memo that House Republicans prepared about alleged surveillance abuses.

If McCabe wants to challenge the decision, his options are limited. Most federal civil service workers who believe they’re being subjected to excessive punishment can protest to an obscure agency called the Merit Systems Protection Board and then to court, but for decades Congress has given the FBI and its management more leeway.

“There's no statutory basis to go to court,” said Tom Devine of the Government Accountability Project.


While the usual civil service avenues are closed to McCabe, a lawsuit in U.S. District Court in Washington is a possibility, lawyers said, but would probably require him to argue that his firing departed from standard practice in a way so egregious that it violated his constitutional rights to due process.

If McCabe does file a lawsuit, he seems certain to argue that his repeated taunting by Trump put Sessions under political pressure to carry out the firing, whether or not it was warranted, lawyers say.

The White House continued to provide fodder for those arguments on Thursday by trashing McCabe even as he showed up at the Justice Department in the afternoon to plead his case.

Asked whether Trump believed McCabe should be fired, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said: “That’s a determination that we would leave up to Attorney General Sessions.” She quickly added: “But we do think it is well documented that he has had some very troubling behavior and by most accounts a bad actor and should have some cause for concern.”

Those kinds of comments, Trump’s repeated tweets about McCabe and reports that last year the president asked McCabe whom he voted for could fuel claims of a constitutional violation.

“If the White House is putting political pressure on the attorney general to do something about this, that’s an implication of being targeted for political reasons,” said David Colapinto, a lawyer who has represented FBI whistle-blowers. “McCabe could argue it raises an inference of retaliation in violation of the First Amendment right of free speech, right to petition Congress and freedom of association.”

Trump’s comments about McCabe’s wife’s failed Virginia Senate bid and the donations she received “could potentially infringe on McCabe’s right to freedom of association, which would be protected by the First Amendment, depending on McCabe’s career status,” Colapinto added.

Still, such a lawsuit would be far from a sure thing. In recent years, the courts have repeatedly shunted or shut down various lawsuits brought by FBI personnel, claiming they were unfairly punished.

The financial stakes for McCabe could be significant. If he had made it to his 50th birthday on Sunday while still in federal service, he would have been eligible to begin drawing a full pension immediately under provisions that apply to federal law enforcement officers, said Kimberly Berry, a lawyer in Arlington, Virginia, who specializes in federal retirement issues.

Berry disputed reports, however, that McCabe would lose his pension altogether.

“He doesn’t lose his retirement,” she said. “It’s not all thrown out in the garbage.“


Even after his dismissal, McCabe will probably be eligible to begin collecting his pension at about age 57, although he would likely lose access to federal health coverage and would probably get a smaller pension than if he stayed on the federal payroll, experts said.

One former FBI agent noted that when agent Robert Hanssen pleaded guilty to espionage, his wife was permitted to keep half his pension despite the extraordinary gravity of the crime Hanssen admitted to.

The Justice Department spokeswoman, Sarah Isgur Flores, has declined to comment on McCabe’s case, but insists that officials are following well-established procedures for employee discipline.

“The department follows a prescribed process by which an employee may be terminated,” she said on Wednesday. “That process includes recommendations from career employees, and no termination decision is final until the conclusion of that process. We have no personnel announcements at this time.”

Some lawyers who routinely handle employee disputes at the FBI and other agencies said they were surprised and somewhat alarmed by the speed with which McCabe’s case was being handled.

When an inspector general review of widespread misconduct at the FBI laboratory was released in 1997, it took 16 months for the Justice Department to settle on relatively minor punishments for a couple of the employees involved.

“What raises a question for me is if they are expediting the decision in his case for political reasons in order to fire him a day before he leaves, to deny him a pension,” said Colapinto, the lawyer who has represented whistle-blowers.

“I’ve had clients at the FBI where it’s dragged out for months or even more than a year, whether by benign neglect or some other reason,” said longtime federal employment lawyer Cheri Cannon. “This is not typical of the way these agencies handle someone who’s had a long and distinguished career.”


https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/ ... ons-466603

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PostRe: US Politics - Trump imposes sanctions on 5 Russian entities and 19 Russians
by Harry Ola » Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:45 am

So first of all one of Trump's lawyers calls for Rosenstein to end the Mueller probe (initially he said with the backing of Donny but he then had to walk that back). And then ....

twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/975164421399105537



It's coming.....

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PostRe: US Politics - Trump imposes sanctions on 5 Russian entities and 19 Russians
by Memento Mori » Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:52 pm

Harry Ola wrote:So first of all one of Trump's lawyers calls for Rosenstein to end the Mueller probe (initially he said with the backing of Donny but he then had to walk that back). And then ....

twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/975164421399105537



It's coming.....


Yep. Get your popcorn ready gentlemen.

twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/975350027169206273


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PostRe: US Politics - Trump imposes sanctions on 5 Russian entities and 19 Russians
by Alvin Flummux » Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:52 pm

Mueller & Rosenstein being Republicans apparently means nothing to him. :lol:

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PostRe: US Politics - Trump imposes sanctions on 5 Russian entities and 19 Russians
by Moggy » Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:03 pm

People who write in all caps are always innocent. INNOCENT!

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PostRe: US Politics - Trump imposes sanctions on 5 Russian entities and 19 Russians
by Harry Ola » Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:03 pm

It's been coming for a bit but no doubt ...

twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/975355378807590912


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PostRe: US Politics - Trump imposes sanctions on 5 Russian entities and 19 Russians
by KK » Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:08 pm

So how long before Mueller is getting fired.

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PostRe: US Politics - Trump imposes sanctions on 5 Russian entities and 19 Russians
by Alvin Flummux » Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:16 pm

KK wrote:So how long before Mueller is getting fired.


Trump can't fire him directly IIRC, at least not without massive, possible presidency-ending blowback.

A smart man would have quietly removed Rosenstein last summer/autumn, while the nation and the world was focused on the GOP's then-ongoing struggle to deny millions of people healthcare. This smart man would have replaced him with an ideally well-credentialed lackey, who would then have deprived the investigation of oxygen by demanding that no move be made without their prior approval, and by setting an increasingly high bar for the investigation's continuation.

I would be completely unsurprised, but nevertheless incensed, if Nunes is picked to replace Rosenstein sometime this year. He's the most Trumpian choice, guaranteed to torpedo the whole investigation.

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PostRe: US Politics - Trump imposes sanctions on 5 Russian entities and 19 Russians
by Harry Ola » Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:39 pm

Most likely he fires Jeff Sessions and replaces him with another cabinet member, like Scott Pruitt, who would not be recused. Anyone else would require Senate approval.

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PostRe: US Politics
by Harry Ola » Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:27 pm

The Republic may be safe for one more day ...

twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/975372217235144705



this is literally parenting technique number 1: distraction.

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PostRe: US Politics
by Harry Ola » Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:01 pm

twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/975397671786737664



Oh dear. Jeff Sessions may have lacked candour again.

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PostRe: US Politics
by Alvin Flummux » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:34 am

Lacking candor is one of the traits Trump loves about him, I bet. :lol:

twitter.com/Reuters/status/975519782568189953



twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/975552628989014017



Don't do what Donnie don't does.

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PostRe: US Politics
by Xeno » Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:35 pm

I didn't think Stupid Watergate couldn't get more stupid but this past week as been pretty special.

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PostRe: US Politics
by Garth » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:28 pm



An undercover investigation by Channel 4 News reveals how Cambridge Analytica secretly campaigns in elections across the world. Bosses were filmed talking about using bribes, ex-spies, fake IDs and sex workers.

twitter.com/Channel4News/status/975807252258058240



twitter.com/GossiTheDog/status/975818564652486656


twitter.com/bendepear/status/975819851540389889


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PostRe: US Politics
by KK » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:36 pm

Pretty phenomenal exclusive for C4, already beginning to lead on US outlets.

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PostRe: US Politics
by Squinty » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:47 pm

Watching it at the moment. Pretty damning.

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PostRe: US Politics
by Rex Kramer » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:47 pm

The Guardian have been sniffing around Cambridge Analytica for quite some time, they must be super pissed to have been beaten to the big story.

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PostRe: US Politics
by Squinty » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:50 pm

Rex Kramer wrote:The Guardian have been sniffing around Cambridge Analytica for quite some time, they must be super pissed to have been beaten to the big story.


Yeah, that was one of the most memorable articles the Guardian has produced.

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PostRe: US Politics
by Cuttooth » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:58 pm

I think it might actually be the same work?

twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/975831833257668608



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