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by KK » Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:42 pm

Washington Post wrote:The Trump administration announced Friday that it would not follow former president Barack Obama's policy of voluntarily disclosing the names of most visitors to the White House complex, citing “grave national security risks and privacy concerns.”

The announcement, from an administration that has faced pointed questions about its commitment to transparency, marks a significant shift from an Obama White House that released the names of nearly 6 million lobbyists and other visitors during Obama's tenure.

Since Trump took office in January, the page where the visitor logs had been publicly available has gone dark, and Trump administration officials said Friday that they will no longer maintain it, which the White House said would save taxpayers $70,000 by 2020.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... cb06878454

Every penny counts with this administration.
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by Memento Mori » Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:10 pm

Sleazy D draining that swamp.
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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by KK » Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:55 pm

West Virginia Governor Jim Justice placed a plate of gooseberry fool on a table to show what he thinks about the proposed state budget.

Beyond satire. Again.
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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Garth » Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:14 pm

$70,000 over 3 years?!



Transparency, so expensive. How much do his regular weekend holidays cost again?

Edit - and the obligatory Trump tweet from the past:

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by lex-man » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:01 pm

KK wrote:
Washington Post wrote:The Trump administration announced Friday that it would not follow former president Barack Obama's policy of voluntarily disclosing the names of most visitors to the White House complex, citing “grave national security risks and privacy concerns.”

The announcement, from an administration that has faced pointed questions about its commitment to transparency, marks a significant shift from an Obama White House that released the names of nearly 6 million lobbyists and other visitors during Obama's tenure.

Since Trump took office in January, the page where the visitor logs had been publicly available has gone dark, and Trump administration officials said Friday that they will no longer maintain it, which the White House said would save taxpayers $70,000 by 2020.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... cb06878454

Every penny counts with this administration.


So that's one weekend away golfing then.
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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by KK » Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:01 am

GOP rep. on ISP privacy rules: 'Nobody's got to use the internet'

The internet is a ubiquitous part of our daily lives. It's where many of us turn when we need to file our taxes, apply for jobs or search for housing. But one Republican lawmaker who voted to roll back FCC privacy regulations last month said, "Nobody's got to use the internet" when asked about his decision at a town hall meeting, displaying a staggering amount of ignorance about how the internet affects the modern world.

"If you start regulating the internet like a utility, if you did that right at the beginning, we would have no internet," US Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.) told the crowd. "I don't think it's my job to tell you that you cannot get advertising for your information being sold. My job, I think, is to tell you that you have the opportunity to do it, and then you take it upon yourself to make the choice that the government should give you."

Last month, the US House of Representatives passed a resolution to overturn a rule that forced internet service providers to get your explicit permission before selling your personal data. The resolution has also passed the Senate, and President Donald Trump said he plans to sign it. Sensenbrenner's statement was in response to a constituent who argued that ISPs should have stricter requirements than websites like Facebook.

"Facebook is not comparable to an ISP," the woman said. "I do not have to go on Facebook. I do have one provider. I live two miles from here. I have one choice. I don't have to go on Google. My ISP provider is different than those providers."

"[People] ought to have more choices rather than fewer choices with the government controlling our everyday lives," Sensenbrenner said before moving on to the next question. The exchange was caught on video and posted to Twitter by American Bridge 21st Century, a PAC that claims it's committed to "holding Republicans accountable for their words and actions." You, of course, need the internet to do this.

https://www.engadget.com/2017/04/14/gop ... t-privacy/

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by lex-man » Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:52 am

I'm glad we won't be effected living in the UK.
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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Garth » Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:29 pm

Trump demands gold‑plated welcome
President insists on a carriage journey down The Mall to Buckingham Palace

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Donald Trump waving from the Queen’s royal carriage is not a scenario many would have foreseen a year ago, but it has become a very real prospect, forcing security services to plan an unprecedented lockdown.

The White House has made clear it regards the carriage procession down the Mall as an essential element of the itinerary for the visit currently planned for the second week of October, according to officials.

Security sources have warned, however, that the procession will require a “monster” security operation, far greater than for any recent state visit.

The Metropolitan Police was already gearing up for the biggest public order operation in several years, with tens of thousands of people expected to descend on the area to protest. Senior police are already grappling with how to achieve a balance between Mr Trump’s security and allowing the public’s right to demonstrate. One source said that Mr Trump’s decision to opt for the carriage, rather than the bullet and bomb-proof car that was used by his predecessor presented a range of fresh headaches.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trum ... -xjnffdq32

Are we seriously going to have Trump riding around in a gold carriage :roll:
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by KK » Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:03 pm

It would be a disaster. I think the entirety of London would turn out against him tbh. Good luck to him, I say.
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by Moggy » Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:05 pm

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Trump demands gold‑plated welcome
President insists on a carriage journey down The Mall to Buckingham Palace

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Donald Trump waving from the Queen’s royal carriage is not a scenario many would have foreseen a year ago, but it has become a very real prospect, forcing security services to plan an unprecedented lockdown.

The White House has made clear it regards the carriage procession down the Mall as an essential element of the itinerary for the visit currently planned for the second week of October, according to officials.

Security sources have warned, however, that the procession will require a “monster” security operation, far greater than for any recent state visit.

The Metropolitan Police was already gearing up for the biggest public order operation in several years, with tens of thousands of people expected to descend on the area to protest. Senior police are already grappling with how to achieve a balance between Mr Trump’s security and allowing the public’s right to demonstrate. One source said that Mr Trump’s decision to opt for the carriage, rather than the bullet and bomb-proof car that was used by his predecessor presented a range of fresh headaches.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trum ... -xjnffdq32

Are we seriously going to have Trump riding around in a gold carriage :roll:


For a decent trade deal we'll probably make him a prince.
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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by KK » Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:08 pm

The only way they could realistically do is it with an empty Mall.
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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Peter Crisp » Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:18 pm

Moggy wrote:For a decent trade deal we'll probably make him a prince.


How about if the US bans all the shitty American cheese (it's not worthy of the name) and imports at least 70k tons of artisan British cheese.
Then American's would realise just how rubbish an idea independence is and beg us to take them back as subjects.
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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Lagamorph » Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:34 pm

Peter Crisp wrote:
Moggy wrote:For a decent trade deal we'll probably make him a prince.


How about if the US bans all the shitty American cheese (it's not worthy of the name) and imports at least 70k tons of artisan British cheese.
Then American's would realise just how rubbish an idea independence is and beg us to take them back as subjects.

Only if they'll drive on the correct side of the road though.
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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Rightey » Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:24 am

Kezzer wrote:Bill to go to the floor that enables churches in Alabama to have own police forces :

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theg ... enate-vote. (Apparently it passed :dread: )


*bellow quote from other source but can't get link as it goes through a twitter account (sorry)

Alabama Senate votes to allow church to form police dept.
Apr 11, 2017 05:20 PM
MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) - The Alabama Senate has voted to allow a church to form its own police force.

Lawmakers on Tuesday voted 24-4 to allow Briarwood Presbyterian Church in Birmingham to establish a law enforcement department.

The church says it needs its own police officers to keep its school as well as its more than 4,000 person congregation safe.

Critics of the bill argue that a police department that reports to church officials could be used to cover up crimes.

The state has given a few private universities the authority to have a police force, but never a church or non-school entity.

Police experts have said such a police department would be unprecedented in the U.S.

A similar bill is also scheduled to be debated in the House on Tuesday.




Could be fake news though right? :dread:




This is a just a lot of fluff. The law was to allow Churches to set up police in the same way Universities or other large institutions have them. They still follow all the normal state laws, it's not as if they'e some Sharia patrol.

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Peter Crisp wrote:
Moggy wrote:For a decent trade deal we'll probably make him a prince.


How about if the US bans all the shitty American cheese (it's not worthy of the name) and imports at least 70k tons of artisan British cheese.
Then American's would realise just how rubbish an idea independence is and beg us to take them back as subjects.

Only if they'll drive on the correct side of the road though.


They already do, as does 90% of the world. :P
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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Tomous » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:30 pm

Rightey wrote:
Kezzer wrote:Bill to go to the floor that enables churches in Alabama to have own police forces :

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theg ... enate-vote. (Apparently it passed :dread: )


*bellow quote from other source but can't get link as it goes through a twitter account (sorry)

Alabama Senate votes to allow church to form police dept.
Apr 11, 2017 05:20 PM
MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) - The Alabama Senate has voted to allow a church to form its own police force.

Lawmakers on Tuesday voted 24-4 to allow Briarwood Presbyterian Church in Birmingham to establish a law enforcement department.

The church says it needs its own police officers to keep its school as well as its more than 4,000 person congregation safe.

Critics of the bill argue that a police department that reports to church officials could be used to cover up crimes.

The state has given a few private universities the authority to have a police force, but never a church or non-school entity.

Police experts have said such a police department would be unprecedented in the U.S.

A similar bill is also scheduled to be debated in the House on Tuesday.




Could be fake news though right? :dread:




This is a just a lot of fluff. The law was to allow Churches to set up police in the same way Universities or other large institutions have them. They still follow all the normal state laws, it's not as if they'e some Sharia patrol.

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Peter Crisp wrote:
Moggy wrote:For a decent trade deal we'll probably make him a prince.


How about if the US bans all the shitty American cheese (it's not worthy of the name) and imports at least 70k tons of artisan British cheese.
Then American's would realise just how rubbish an idea independence is and beg us to take them back as subjects.

Only if they'll drive on the correct side of the road though.


They already do, as does 90% of the world. :P


Driving on the left is slightly safer. The majority of the world is right eyed and right hand dominant. Left side driving means the dominant hand is always on the steering wheel, even when changing gear and the dominant eye is focused on incoming traffic.

Another win for the UK and the empire :cool:
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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Rightey » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:43 pm

I can't speak for the rest of the world, but here in North America most cars are automatic, so we can keep both hands on the steering wheel :P
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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Lagamorph » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:24 pm

Rightey wrote:I can't speak for the rest of the world, but here in North America most cars are automatic, so we can keep both hands on the steering wheel :P

That's not a good thing.
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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Rightey » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:52 pm

Ehh, maybe a few decades ago. Back in the day manuals were better on gas (depending on your driving) and more reliable but now a days they are pretty close in quality and automatics are juat as fuel efficient. Also if you are talking about performance, then the sequential transmissions with the paddles beat the manuals and you can drive those with both hands on the steering wheel.
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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Moggy » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:54 pm

Rightey wrote:I can't speak for the rest of the world, but here in North America most cars are automatic, so we can keep both hands on the steering wheel :P


That's because we are grown ups and can drive proper cars.
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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by KK » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:27 pm

Better off learning with a manual too as then you can drive both.
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