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Re: US Politics - Trump's calls with foreign leaders leaked + Trump launches 'Real News' propaganda vids

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:32 am
by Moggy
Cuttooth wrote:
Rocsteady wrote:We're all going to die.

The anger I'm going to feel for the split second I realise what's happening, that I'm going to die horribly because 'her emails', is going to be immense.

The sheer pointless stupidity of it all.


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Re: US Politics - Trump promises "fire and fury like the world has never seen" if NK nuclear threat escalates

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:53 am
by Squinty
Mad Don - Fire and Fury Road

Such is his skill in diplomacy.

Re: US Politics - Trump promises "fire and fury like the world has never seen" if NK nuclear threat escalates

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:38 am
by Lex-Man
To be honest I reckon we'll just see Don and Kim shouting rhetoric at each other for the next, however long. They're like to drunk old farts having an argument and threatening to thump one another. The fortunate thing is I don't think either has the balls to actually throw the first blow.

Re: US Politics - Trump promises "fire and fury like the world has never seen" if NK nuclear threat escalates

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:45 am
by Moggy

twitter.com/simonblackwell/status/895052996094152704



:lol:

Re: US Politics - Trump's calls with foreign leaders leaked + Trump launches 'Real News' propaganda vids

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:04 am
by Hexx
lex-man wrote:
Cuttooth wrote:

twitter.com/AP/status/895003246372294657



Yay we're all going to die.


Urmm, they already have, several times. Although in all honestly you're not helping.


The actual quote is like a 10 year old "They'd best not do it". He's an insecure manchild trying to appear big.

Still at least we haven't got Warmonger Clinton in charge right? Right? And Buttery Males!

Re: US Politics - Trump promises "fire and fury like the world has never seen" if NK nuclear threat escalates

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:13 am
by Moggy
lex-man wrote:To be honest I reckon we'll just see Don and Kim shouting rhetoric at each other for the next, however long. They're like to drunk old farts having an argument and threatening to thump one another. The fortunate thing is I don't think either has the balls to actually throw the first blow.


Trump is such a child though, the temptation to use nukes must be almost overwhelming him.

If they ever let him have a gold plated bunker to hide in then he will definitely launch everything he has.

Re: US Politics - Trump promises "fire and fury like the world has never seen" if NK nuclear threat escalates

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:09 am
by Return_of_the_STAR
So lots of press are reporting that NK have no threatened to strike Guam after Donald made his comments. My guess is Trump does nothing.

Trumps big problem is I believe his plan was to talk big and that NK would back down. Trump would then look like the big tough leader who stood up to NK whilst other leaders that he likes to cite have tried to appease them. However all he's doing is backing himself into a corner as he is just further escalating everything until he point of no return.

Re: US Politics - Trump promises "fire and fury like the world has never seen" if NK nuclear threat escalates

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:18 am
by Preezy
You just have to assume that North Korea aren't that crazy to fire a missile at the US. Whilst they might destroy a city or two, they must surely know that it would end in them being completely destroyed. There's no mutually assured destruction here, the US would absolutely batter them, as would its allies.

I think this'll all calm down before long.

Hopefully :shifty:

Re: US Politics - Trump promises "fire and fury like the world has never seen" if NK nuclear threat escalates

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:21 am
by Hexx
Yes. We have to hope the Kim Jung is the rational one in this situation

Re: US Politics - Trump promises "fire and fury like the world has never seen" if NK nuclear threat escalates

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:27 am
by Tafdolphin
Preezy wrote:You just have to assume that North Korea aren't that crazy to fire a missile at the US. Whilst they might destroy a city or two, they must surely know that it would end in them being completely destroyed. There's no mutually assured destruction here, the US would absolutely batter them, as would its allies.

I think this'll all calm down before long.

Hopefully :shifty:


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... -fire-fury
But North Korea experts played down the potential for a military strike on Guam. “There’s rhetoric on both sides – it’s like two bullies in the playground yelling at each other,” said Robert Kelly, associate professor at Pusan National University.

“I think the North Koreans just pulled the Guam threat out of the air. Sure, there’s some sort of rough plan on a shelf somewhere, because Guam is an important American reinforcement point, but I don’t think there is anything immediately in the offing.

“They just needed to say something in response – you poke the North Koreans in the eye and they poke you back."


Also, this is a fascinating/terrifying article

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... th/528717/

With only a few of its worst weapons, North Korea could, probably within hours, kill millions. This means an American first strike would likely trigger one of the worst mass killings in human history. In 2005, Sam Gardiner, a retired U.S. Air Force colonel who specialized in conducting war games at the National War College, estimated that the use of sarin gas alone would produce 1 million casualties. Gardiner now says, in light of what we have learned from gas attacks on civilians in Syria, that the number would likely be three to five times greater. And today North Korea has an even wider array of chemical and biological weapons than it did 12 years ago—the recent assassination of Kim’s half brother, Kim Jong Nam, demonstrated the potency of at least one compound, the nerve agent VX. The Kim regime is believed to have biological weapons including anthrax, botulism, hemorrhagic fever, plague, smallpox, typhoid, and yellow fever. And it has missiles capable of reaching Tokyo, a metropolitan area of nearly 38 million. In other words, any effort to crush North Korea flirts not just with heavy losses, but with one of the greatest catastrophes in human history.

Re: US Politics - Trump promises "fire and fury like the world has never seen" if NK nuclear threat escalates

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:29 am
by Moggy
If North Korea nuke Guam, does that mean Desmond will have to go down into the hatch?

Re: US Politics - Trump promises "fire and fury like the world has never seen" if NK nuclear threat escalates

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:34 am
by Lex-Man
Preezy wrote:You just have to assume that North Korea aren't that crazy to fire a missile at the US. Whilst they might destroy a city or two, they must surely know that it would end in them being completely destroyed. There's no mutually assured destruction here, the US would absolutely batter them, as would its allies.

I think this'll all calm down before long.

Hopefully :shifty:


North Korea have protection pacts with Russia and China. It would come down to what those countries did in the event of North Korea going on the offensive. I'm guessing both Russia and China would throw them under a bus but you can never be too sure.

Re: US Politics - Trump promises "fire and fury like the world has never seen" if NK nuclear threat escalates

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:00 am
by Photek
China will bring NK in line, they always do and have already said to pipe down NK a month ago.

Re: US Politics - Trump promises "fire and fury like the world has never seen" if NK nuclear threat escalates

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:13 am
by Preezy
North Korea is the mouthy kid that has a big brother who keeps him from running his mouth too much. But then one day the mouthy kid gets his hands on a gun and the big brother can't influence him anymore.

Re: US Politics - Trump promises "fire and fury like the world has never seen" if NK nuclear threat escalates

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:19 am
by Dual
COLD WAR II: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO (TRUMP REMIX; HOTTER THAN HELL EDITION)

Re: US Politics - Trump promises "fire and fury like the world has never seen" if NK nuclear threat escalates

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:31 am
by KK
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Re: US Politics - Trump promises "fire and fury like the world has never seen" if NK nuclear threat escalates

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:45 am
by Moggy
Photek wrote:China will bring NK in line, they always do and have already said to pipe down NK a month ago.


It’s not NK people are particularly worried about, it’s DJ T.

Re: US Politics - Trump promises "fire and fury like the world has never seen" if NK nuclear threat escalates

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:24 pm
by Alvin Flummux
Weaponized smallpox hitting Tokyo would easily be one of the worst possible outcomes of a resumption of hostilities. I mean, good god, look at what the disease did to the Native Americans! If they aimed that at an American city as well...

Re: US Politics - Trump promises "fire and fury like the world has never seen" if NK nuclear threat escalates

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:27 pm
by captain red dog
Assuming we all survive, we might have some cracking COD games in a couple of years.

Re: US Politics - Trump promises "fire and fury like the world has never seen" if NK nuclear threat escalates

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:27 pm
by Squinty
Only way to resolve this is through diplomacy and time.

Or you could take the risk and send a crack commando unit to take him out and HOPE that nothing further escalates if it succeeds. Which it will, because that is a terrible idea.

Donald Trump to send the A Team?