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by KK » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:02 pm

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Photek » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:04 pm

He did Nazi this coming.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Hexx » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:26 pm

Photek wrote:Bannon taken off National Security Council.

Something's gonna break I reckon.


Joint Chiefs back on too

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by Memento Mori » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:53 pm

Garth wrote:
Photek wrote:Bannon taken off National Security Council.


That was quick :lol:

I suspect this was Mattis' doing.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Harry Ola » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:28 pm

Memento Mori wrote:
Garth wrote:
Photek wrote:Bannon taken off National Security Council.


That was quick :lol:

I suspect this was Mattis' doing.


Wouldn't be surprised if this was Kushner.

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by Alvin Flummux » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:37 pm

Memento Mori wrote:
Garth wrote:
Photek wrote:Bannon taken off National Security Council.


That was quick :lol:

I suspect this was Mattis' doing.


Maybe also McMaster.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Harry Ola » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:39 pm

Now Trump is accusing Susan Rice of committing a crime. No evidence of course.

So although the unmasking of Americans caught up in surveillance of foreign nationals happens all the time, Trump says:

I think it’s going to be the biggest story. It’s such an important story for our country and the world. It is one of the big stories of our time.


He really is an utter buffoon.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/05/us/politics/trump-interview-susan-rice.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Garth » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:41 pm

twitter.com/TomNamako/status/849695710203215872



I can honestly believe that the President Bannon jokes really would get under Trump's skin :lol:

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Memento Mori » Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:34 pm

Easy D the most gotten to man alive? Surely not.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by That » Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:12 pm

Memento Mori wrote:Easy D the most gotten to man alive? Surely not.


:lol: :fp:

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Harry Ola » Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:30 am

So Syria is going to be his first international crisis. It's the perfect storm for Trump.

His attitude to Syria was always more accommodating, declaring in a presidential debate: "I don’t like Assad at all. But Assad is killing Isis. Russia is killing Isis and Iran is killing Isis.”

Then a few days ago, Nikki Haley, US ambassador to the UN, declared: “our priority is no longer to sit and focus on getting Assad out”.

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson had argued the Syrian president’s future “will be decided by the Syrian people".

In response, Marco Rubio said "it's concerning that the secretary of state … said that the future's up to the people in Syria on what happens with Assad. In essence almost nodding to the idea that Assad was going to get to stay in some capacity." Adding, “I don't think it's a coincidence that a few days later we see this".

So far from being a crisis Trump can blame on Obama, even he has stopped with that attack already, it could actually be a crisis that follows his own administration's attitudes to Syria.

And of course, it is a crisis that if they do something, puts them on the other side of the fence to Russia. Oh yes, this is going to get messy.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Moggy » Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:50 am

Harry Ola wrote:And of course, it is a crisis that if they do something, puts them on the other side of the fence to Russia. Oh yes, this is going to get messy.


Assuming his Russian masters let him. ;)

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Harry Ola » Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:09 am

Moggy wrote:
Harry Ola wrote:And of course, it is a crisis that if they do something, puts them on the other side of the fence to Russia. Oh yes, this is going to get messy.


Assuming his Russian masters let him. ;)


The problem he faces is that he has made it almost impossible to not act, following his ridiculous blaming of Obama. But if he acts, it's not the first step that is the problem, it's what he does when it has no impact on Assad or Putin. It's how he follows up. This is the sort of complicated, intractable problem, full of nuance and no great solutions, that you would not want in the hands of an easily bored moron. Oh well.

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by Saint of Killers » Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:11 am

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Alvin Flummux » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:57 am

Alvin Flummux wrote:
Memento Mori wrote:
Garth wrote:
Photek wrote:Bannon taken off National Security Council.


That was quick :lol:

I suspect this was Mattis' doing.


Maybe also McMaster.


Follow up:

"This seems to me a return to normalcy," said Elliott Abrams, who served on the NSC under Presidents Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush and was interviewed by Trump for the post of deputy secretary of state. "McMaster is settling in, hiring people, and beginning to influence the way foreign policy is conducted."

“It really reflects well on H.R. McMaster, who has orchestrated all the key moves behind the scenes in advance of announcing them and gotten their approval,” added David Rothkopf, author of two histories of the National Security Council, most recently National Insecurity, which looked at the Bush and Obama years.

“That is a sign of a smart, effective bureaucrat and leader. This restores the traditional structures to the NSC. It is putting in place a professional team of national security advisers," Rothkopf added. "It gives McMaster more authority and restores the roles of the military and intelligence leadership."

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But Rothkopf and others noted that giving McMaster control over the NSC doesn't give him sole authority over national security decision-making inside Trump's White House, where Bannon remains top strategist and where son-in-law Jared Kushner holds enormous sway.

“Does [Trump] respect the process he created?" asked Rothkopf. "He is a mercurial guy. He can’t allow himself the luxury of backsliding. He can’t allow Bannon to back-door this process. This is easy to undo.”


http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/b ... cil-236921

Who needs Russian masters, when you've got H.R. McMaster?

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Hexx » Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:32 pm

Nunes has "temporarily" secused himself from the investigation while he contests ethics complaints by "leftwing activists"

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Memento Mori » Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:32 pm

Steve Bannon is reacting well to his demotion.

Donald Trump’s chief strategist Stephen Bannon has called the president’s senior advisor and son-in-law Jared Kushner a “cuck” and a “globalist” during a time of high tension between the two top aides, several Trump administration officials told The Daily Beast.

The fighting between Kushner and Bannon has been “nonstop” in recent weeks, according to sources who spoke on condition of anonymity. It’s been an “open secret” that Bannon and Kushner often clash “face-to-face,” according to senior officials.

One official said Bannon has lately complained about Kushner trying to “shiv him and push him out the door” and likened him to a fifth column in the White House.

“[Steve] recently vented to us about Jared being a ‘globalist’ and a ‘cuck’…He actually said ‘cuck,’ as in “cuckservative,’” the administration official told The Daily Beast.


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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Irene Demova » Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:47 pm

Friendly reminder that "globalist" is their codeword for jew.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Lex-Man » Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:57 pm

Globalist doesn't seem like much of an insult IMO

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