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by Garth » Sun May 14, 2017 9:59 pm

Some fun comments from the Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper (Trump's recently been trying to twist old comments from Clapper in an attempt to shut down talk of Russia collusion):
Clapper: US govt 'under assault' by Trump after Comey firing

American democracy is separately "under assault" from President Donald Trump and Russia, the former U.S. intelligence chief warned Sunday, expressing dismay over the abrupt firing of FBI director James Comey amid a probe into Moscow's meddling in U.S. elections and possible ties with the Trump campaign.

As Trump works to fast-track Comey's successor, lawmakers from both parties urged him to steer clear of any politicians for the job and say he must "clean up the mess that he mostly created."

"I think, in many ways, our institutions are under assault, both externally — and that's the big news here, is the Russian interference in our election system," said James Clapper, the former director of national intelligence. "I think as well our institutions are under assault internally."

When he was asked, "Internally, from the president?" Clapper said, "Exactly."

Clapper spoke following Trump's sudden firing of Comey last week, which drew sharp criticism because it came amid the FBI's investigation into Russia's interference in the 2016 presidential election. Clapper said America's founding fathers had created three co-equal branches of government with checks and balances, but with Trump as president, that was now under assault and "eroding."

The White House had no immediate comment on Clapper's remarks on a morning in which no White House aide appeared on the Sunday news shows to discuss Trump's firing.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStor ... r-47399481
Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said Russia likely sees President Trump's firing of FBI Director James Comey as "another victory on the scoreboard for them."

“What's unfolded now, here, the leader of the -- the lead of the investigation about potential collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign has been removed. So the Russians have to consider this as a, you know, another victory on the scoreboard for them,” Clapper told ABC News’ Chief Anchor George Stephanopoulos on “This Week” Sunday.

Clapper also told Stephanopoulos that then-FBI Director Comey seemed "uneasy" about having dinner with President Trump because of "the appearance of potentially compromising his independence." The former DNI noted he spoke to Comey at FBI headquarters ahead of the dinner on Jan. 27, a week after Trump took office.

“I spoke briefly with Director Comey about the dinner," Clapper said. "He conveyed to me that he’d been invited and he was -- and this is my characterization -- uneasy with it, simply because of the optic or the appearance of potentially compromising his independence and that of the bureau.”

But he said it’s a “professional courtesy” to accept an invitation from the president for dinner.

Stephanopoulos asked the former Director of National Intelligence under President Obama if he thought “James Comey would make a pledge of loyalty to the president,” a reference to reports that Comey said the president asked him for such assurances, which he declined to give.

Clapper said he “would find that profoundly out of character for what” he knows of Comey “and his integrity” that the former FBI chief would make such a pledge.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dni-clap ... d=47390947

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump fires FBI Director
by Alvin Flummux » Sun May 14, 2017 10:08 pm

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Trump considering staff shake-up

President Trump is reportedly weighing a shake-up in his administration.

The president is considering a "huge reboot" that could include chief of staff Reince Priebus, chief strategist Stephen Bannon and press secretary Sean Spicer, Axios reported early Sunday, citing White House sources.

The move comes at the urging of longtime friends and outside advisers, according to the news outlet.

"He's frustrated, and angry at everyone," an unidentified confidant told Axios. "The advice he's getting is to go big — that he has nothing to lose," the confidant added. "The question now is how big and how bold. I'm not sure he knows the answer to that yet."
Sources also said Trump feels he is not being well-served by some members of his Cabinet.

Six West Wing officials also told The New York Times, meanwhile, the president is considering the most far-reaching shake-up of his first term after being dissatisfied with several top aides, especially Spicer.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... -up-report

The Spiceman! Noooooo!


Did he actually fill all of the jobs he needed to, in the first place. Man, this is the most unbelievable presidency ever.


It usually takes 10-14 months for an incoming administration to fill out all those jobs, and it's not uncommon for some positions to go years without anyone filling them. Trump's is different because key State Department posts are still vacant, and there is little communication with the tip top brass.


It seems nuts that it takes around a quarter of a presidents term just to get all their staff in place. It seems like a massively inefficient system. Although I guess in someways it's probably for the better.


You're talking about hiring several thousand people. It's not a small operation.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump fires FBI Director
by lex-man » Sun May 14, 2017 10:52 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:
lex-man wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:
lex-man wrote:
Garth wrote:
Trump considering staff shake-up

President Trump is reportedly weighing a shake-up in his administration.

The president is considering a "huge reboot" that could include chief of staff Reince Priebus, chief strategist Stephen Bannon and press secretary Sean Spicer, Axios reported early Sunday, citing White House sources.

The move comes at the urging of longtime friends and outside advisers, according to the news outlet.

"He's frustrated, and angry at everyone," an unidentified confidant told Axios. "The advice he's getting is to go big — that he has nothing to lose," the confidant added. "The question now is how big and how bold. I'm not sure he knows the answer to that yet."
Sources also said Trump feels he is not being well-served by some members of his Cabinet.

Six West Wing officials also told The New York Times, meanwhile, the president is considering the most far-reaching shake-up of his first term after being dissatisfied with several top aides, especially Spicer.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... -up-report

The Spiceman! Noooooo!


Did he actually fill all of the jobs he needed to, in the first place. Man, this is the most unbelievable presidency ever.


It usually takes 10-14 months for an incoming administration to fill out all those jobs, and it's not uncommon for some positions to go years without anyone filling them. Trump's is different because key State Department posts are still vacant, and there is little communication with the tip top brass.


It seems nuts that it takes around a quarter of a presidents term just to get all their staff in place. It seems like a massively inefficient system. Although I guess in someways it's probably for the better.


You're talking about hiring several thousand people. It's not a small operation.


You'd just think a load of people would stay on from on operation to another.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump fires FBI Director
by Alvin Flummux » Sun May 14, 2017 11:01 pm

lex-man wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:
lex-man wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:
lex-man wrote:
Garth wrote:
Trump considering staff shake-up

President Trump is reportedly weighing a shake-up in his administration.

The president is considering a "huge reboot" that could include chief of staff Reince Priebus, chief strategist Stephen Bannon and press secretary Sean Spicer, Axios reported early Sunday, citing White House sources.

The move comes at the urging of longtime friends and outside advisers, according to the news outlet.

"He's frustrated, and angry at everyone," an unidentified confidant told Axios. "The advice he's getting is to go big — that he has nothing to lose," the confidant added. "The question now is how big and how bold. I'm not sure he knows the answer to that yet."
Sources also said Trump feels he is not being well-served by some members of his Cabinet.

Six West Wing officials also told The New York Times, meanwhile, the president is considering the most far-reaching shake-up of his first term after being dissatisfied with several top aides, especially Spicer.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... -up-report

The Spiceman! Noooooo!


Did he actually fill all of the jobs he needed to, in the first place. Man, this is the most unbelievable presidency ever.


It usually takes 10-14 months for an incoming administration to fill out all those jobs, and it's not uncommon for some positions to go years without anyone filling them. Trump's is different because key State Department posts are still vacant, and there is little communication with the tip top brass.


It seems nuts that it takes around a quarter of a presidents term just to get all their staff in place. It seems like a massively inefficient system. Although I guess in someways it's probably for the better.


You're talking about hiring several thousand people. It's not a small operation.


You'd just think a load of people would stay on from on operation to another.


Oh they absolutely do, but there are also thousands of appointed posts to fill IIRC.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump fires FBI Director
by Oblomov Boblomov » Mon May 15, 2017 8:53 am

I will be devastated if Spicey gets bumped :cry:.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump fires FBI Director
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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump fires FBI Director
by Cuttooth » Mon May 15, 2017 10:21 pm



But. Her. Emails.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump fires FBI Director
by Alvin Flummux » Mon May 15, 2017 10:33 pm

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But. Her. Emails.


:lol: He just can't help himself, can he? Keep digging that grave, Comrade Trumpski!

Has a ‘sealed indictment’ been issued against President Trump?

Blogger and fierce critic of President Donald Trump Louise Mensch and former Clinton White House official Claude Taylor are both saying that independent sources have separately informed them that a sealed indictment has been granted against the president.

“Separate sources with links to the intelligence and justice communities have stated that a sealed indictment has been granted against Donald Trump,” wrote Mensch and Taylor at the Patribotics blog.

They continued, “While it is understood that the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution means that, until Mr. Trump is impeached, he cannot be prosecuted, sources say that the indictment is intended by the FBI and prosecutors in the Justice Department to form the basis of Mr. Trump’s impeachment. The indictment is, perhaps uniquely, not intended or expected to be used for prosecution, sources say, because of the constitutional position of the President.”

Mensch is known as something of a polemicist — some dismiss her as a crackpot conspiracy theorist — and yet, as GOP strategist and fellow Trump critic Rick Wilson pointed out on Twitter, she has been right on target with certain key findings in the secretive murk around Trump and investigations into his connections to Russia’s mafia underworld.



A Dutch TV documentary shed light this week on some of Trump’s connections to Russia’s lawless elite and explained how the intercepted communications between Trump campaign officials and Russian organized crime figures could have been discovered as part of a money-laundering and organized crime case.


http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/has-a-s ... ent-trump/

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump fires FBI Director
by KK » Mon May 15, 2017 10:34 pm

Let's hope it's not the UK, though I would like to think MI5, 6 and our government are wise enough to know they can no longer trust the American government.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump fires FBI Director
by Hexx » Mon May 15, 2017 10:37 pm

Jesus

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump fires FBI Director
by KK » Mon May 15, 2017 10:39 pm

At least if America faked the moon landings and had a UFO somewhere we'd know about it by now.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump fires FBI Director
by Monkey Man » Tue May 16, 2017 12:47 am

Two US officials who were briefed about Trump’s disclosures last week confirmed to BuzzFeed News the veracity of the Post report, with one official noting that “it’s far worse than what has already been reported.”

One of the officials said the Senate Intelligence Committee was also briefed on Trump’s disclosures.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimdalrympleii ... ljjDDndAyx





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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump fires FBI Director
by KK » Tue May 16, 2017 12:54 am

But just who have they screwed over, that is the question...

Something in the air tells me it's going to be us.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump fires FBI Director
by JediDragon05 » Tue May 16, 2017 12:59 am

I do love a bit of drama

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& it only Tuesday.

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Bunch of pussies.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump fires FBI Director
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Sounds like it involves ISIS & laptop bombs.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump fires FBI Director
by Garth » Tue May 16, 2017 2:38 am

After all the talk from Republicans about how bad leakers are, then the President goes and does this, lol - orange twat!

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump blurts out highly classified info to the Russians
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PostRe: The American Politics Thread - Trump blurts out highly classified info to the Russians
by Garth » Tue May 16, 2017 2:58 am

White House Staff ‘Hiding’ As Russia Chaos Engulfs West Wing: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... -west-wing

Some of these quotes, lol:
Communications staff and senior staffers at the White House were literally “hiding in offices,” according to a senior Trump aide, as a gaggle of White House press stormed White House hallways just after the Washington Post story broke on Monday evening.

“Do not ask me about how this looks, we all know how this looks,” the senior aide told The Daily Beast on Monday evening. Trump administration officials spoke to The Daily Beast on the condition of anonymity so as to speak freely. The aide described a scene at the White House as tense and “a morgue,” where senior officials such as Sean Spicer, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, and Stephen Bannon convened to sketch an immediate path forward in handling the aftermath.

“At this point I’m wondering if we’ll ever be able to stop talking about Russia,” a White House staffer said shortly after the Post story was published. “It’s totally self-inflicted. Every time I feel like we’re getting a handle on the last Russia fiasco, a new one pops.”

Some administration officials who supported Trump during the campaign said they were appalled at his apparent divulging of U.S. secrets, and considered it a break from his “America First” campaign mantra.

“With news like this I’m beginning to wonder why Trump ran in the first place and if he really cares about the country,” said a senior Trump appointee involved in counter-ISIS policymaking. “I miss candidate Trump. Now he’s just a pathetic mess.”

“I doubt he did it to collude [with the Russians]. I think he’s dumb and doesn’t know the difference,” a former FBI official who worked aspects of the Russia investigation told The Daily Beast. “He thinks he’s arranging some business deal except that he’s not.”

When asked if they could use info in way that harms the U.S., this official said, “of course.”

The Russians, the source added, “like [Trump’s] mental instability and stupidity. They don’t like his unpredictability.”

“Where are all those folks who chanted ‘lock her up’?” quipped Rep. Gerry Connolly, a member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, in reference to a frequent Clinton-aimed chant at Trump campaign rallies.

Mark Zaid, a well-known national security lawyer, told The Daily Beast.

“Time after time we are seeing that our president has little to no understanding of how the intelligence system and national security apparatus works, and our biggest security vulnerability may be the one person who no one, other than Congress, can take action against,”

“If [The Washington Post’s story is] true, this is a slap in the face to the intel community,” said Sen. Mark Warner, vice-chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. “Risking sources & methods is inexcusable, particularly with the Russians.”


The man is a complete liability, and he's probably only going to get worse as he ages. How can any US allies trust the US while he's President?

Trump's meeting with Turkish President Erdoğan in the White House on Tuesday BTW :P


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