US Politics - Trump cancels summit having to do with North Korea

Moggy wrote:I can't tell if he's excited or appalled.

twitter.com/nigel_farage/status/896445864398520321

He re-released a literal nazi propaganda poster during the referendum campaign. He's not appalled.

captain red dog wrote:Is he legally allowed to condemn the far right protestors though or would that violate the 1st amendment?

What? Of course he can condemn it. The first amendment stops laws being created to stifle free speech, it doesn't stop the President's right to condemn arseholes.

Obama happily criticised anti-Trump protesters for instance: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/03/polit ... index.html

Memento Mori wrote:
Moggy wrote:I can't tell if he's excited or appalled.

twitter.com/nigel_farage/status/896445864398520321

He re-released a literal nazi propaganda poster during the referendum campaign. He's not appalled.

That's what I thought, he's worded it cleverly, it initially reads as "this is terrible!" but it doesn't actually say that and when you remember who wrote it, it's easy to see how hard and erect he must have been while typing it.

captain red dog wrote:Is he legally allowed to condemn the far right protestors though or would that violate the 1st amendment?

He can, yes. He really should too. I mean, one of them drove a car into a crowd of people, killing someone and injuring many others. That's terrorism. There are even actual Nazis there, waving swastika flags, and they're supporting the Confederacy who were traitors to the country Trump is President of.

Moggy wrote:
captain red dog wrote:Is he legally allowed to condemn the far right protestors though or would that violate the 1st amendment?

What? Of course he can condemn it. The first amendment stops laws being created to stifle free speech, it doesn't stop the President's right to condemn arseholes.

Obama happily criticised anti-Trump protesters for instance: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/03/polit ... index.html

Well Obama condemned the violence, as Trump has here, but not the right to protest. I just think there would inevitably be lawsuits if the president was seen to be attacking a certain groups right to free speech.

Not that I am supporting these morons, I actually think their stupid protest has massively worked against them as they have literally revealed themselves to be Nazis.

Moggy wrote:
Memento Mori wrote:
Moggy wrote:I can't tell if he's excited or appalled.

twitter.com/nigel_farage/status/896445864398520321

He re-released a literal nazi propaganda poster during the referendum campaign. He's not appalled.

That's what I thought, he's worded it cleverly, it initially reads as "this is terrible!" but it doesn't actually say that and when you remember who wrote it, it's easy to see how hard and erect he must have been while typing it.

It's a knowing wink to the types of people who attend far-right rallies, much like Trump's "both sides" nonsense.

captain red dog wrote:
Moggy wrote:
captain red dog wrote:Is he legally allowed to condemn the far right protestors though or would that violate the 1st amendment?

What? Of course he can condemn it. The first amendment stops laws being created to stifle free speech, it doesn't stop the President's right to condemn arseholes.

Obama happily criticised anti-Trump protesters for instance: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/03/polit ... index.html

Well Obama condemned the violence, as Trump has here, but not the right to protest. I just think there would inevitably be lawsuits if the president was seen to be attacking a certain groups right to free speech.

Not that I am supporting these morons, I actually think their stupid protest has massively worked against them as they have literally revealed themselves to be Nazis.

"That's not what you do. There's no room for violence. There's no place for shouting,"

I don't think you read that properly, he condemned more than just violence.

Literally revealing themselves to be Nazis isn't a problem, everyone kind of knew that.

The Justice Department has opened up a federal investigation into the deadly events in Charlottesville, Va. on Saturday after a car plowed into a crowd of protestors and left one dead.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced Saturday that a federal civil rights investigation into the incident had been opened.

“The violence and deaths in Charlottesville strike at the heart of American law and justice. When such actions arise from racial bigotry and hatred, they betray our core values and cannot be tolerated," Sessions said in a statement.

"I have talked with FBI Director Chris Wray, FBI agents on the scene, and law enforcement officials for the state of Virginia. The FBI has been supporting state and local authorities throughout the day. U.S. Attorney Rick Mountcastle has commenced a federal investigation and will have the full support of the Department of Justice. Justice will prevail.”

The United States Attorney’s Office for the Western District of Virginia and the Richmond Field Office of the FBI also issued a statement confirming the investigation.

"The Richmond FBI Field Office, the Civil Rights Division and the US Attorney's Office for the Western District of Virginia have opened a civil rights investigation into the circumstances of the deadly vehicular incident that occured earlier Saturday morning. The FBI will collect all available facts and evidence, and as this is an ongoing investigation we are not able to comment further at this time," the statement read.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... ation-into

In White House news...

President Trump reportedly suspects that his chief strategist Stephen Bannon is behind some White House leaks about fellow staffers, according to a new report by Axios.

Sources told Axios that West Wing staff believe Bannon was behind leaks about National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster and that Bannon's job could be in danger.

According to the report, Trump has been "irritated" with Bannon following a series of Breitbart reports targeting McMaster. Bannon was formerly the executive chairman of Breitbart.

There is no clear connection, however, linking Bannon to such reports.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... aks-report

The Trump administration shall devour itself.

Tafdolphin wrote:
KK wrote:
Tafdolphin wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:People are doxxing the driver of the car, using the license plate.

People got doxxed because they a) expressed an opinion about a video game b) were women. I'm not saying doxxing is good, but I've seen worse excuses to employ it.

Unless the owner of the license plate wasn't the one driving the car...

Luckily, he was.

A photo from 2015 showed Fields proudly posing with a gray Dodge — his first car, according to a comment on Facebook.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/claudiakoerner ... .pjZJjryAB

From his mother in that article:
"I thought it had something to do with Trump. Trump’s not a white supremacist,” Bloom told the AP.
“He had an African-American friend so ...,” she said, trailing off.

:dread:

Trump: Not a white supremacist, but #1 with white supremacists.

captain red dog wrote:
Moggy wrote:
captain red dog wrote:Is he legally allowed to condemn the far right protestors though or would that violate the 1st amendment?

What? Of course he can condemn it. The first amendment stops laws being created to stifle free speech, it doesn't stop the President's right to condemn arseholes.

Obama happily criticised anti-Trump protesters for instance: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/03/polit ... index.html

Well Obama condemned the violence, as Trump has here, but not the right to protest. I just think there would inevitably be lawsuits if the president was seen to be attacking a certain groups right to free speech.

Not that I am supporting these morons, I actually think their stupid protest has massively worked against them as they have literally revealed themselves to be Nazis.

Captain 'Not that I actually think this but' Red Dog strikes again.

Alvin Flummux wrote:Trump: Not a white supremacist, but #1 with white supremacists.

Indeed!

Eighthours wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:Trump: Not a white supremacist, but #1 with white supremacists.

Indeed!

It is amusing watching his supporters tie themselves in knots to say what they believe and at the same time try and claim they aren't horrible racists who chanted that they wanted to get the country back from foreigners.

captain red dog wrote:Not that I am supporting these morons, I actually think their stupid protest has massively worked against them as they have literally revealed themselves to be Nazis.

So you think the smarter move for them would be to conceal their true ideology, while furthering their agenda in a less direct, less obvious fashion?

Nibble wrote:
captain red dog wrote:Not that I am supporting these morons, I actually think their stupid protest has massively worked against them as they have literally revealed themselves to be Nazis.

So you think the smarter move for them would be to conceal their true ideology, while furthering their agenda in a less direct, less obvious fashion?

Well, yeah, that would be smarter.

I doubt it'd fool many people, but it's a smarter move. Some people (even on the left) would say "no, they are not racist, they just dislike xxxx" but most of us wouldn't be fooled.

twitter.com/omanreagan/status/896563796071731201

Just seen the picture of the guys beating a black fella with poles.

Is this the real life.

I honestly don't understand why the Trump representatives can't just condemn a bunch of Nazi white supremacists.

My super gooseberry fool analogy is if I and a bunch of friends turned up to a football match wearing clothes and waving banners saying "Football it super gooseberry fool and all football players are wimpy twats!" and generally acting like idiots anyone who objects to my behaviour is just as guilty of inciting violence as I am.
They claim the counter protesters are equally in the wrong but somehow don't seem to understand that they wouldn't be at the event if the Nazi's hadn't shown up.

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