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Don't be a cretin Hexx, I am not blaming the left. What you will see is an ongoing escalation, look at the "battle of Berkley" compared to this, now people are dying. The idiotic oath bearers or whatever they were called were there fully armed, how long until this reaches gun battles in the streets?

If wanting to prevent an escalation of violence is a right wing position then I guess I'll get my Tory membership in the post along with Jeremy Corbyn. These idiots are already talking about further Unite the Right marches.

But yeah by all means condone violently opposing these morons as long as you are prepared to meet armed strawberry floating Nazis along with the rest of the counter protestors.

I have never voted for a right wing party in my life, aside from New Labour, have attended and supported many "left wing" protests and causes and financially have backed and am backing left wing causes. Just because you are to the left of Lenin, don't assume everyone that disagrees with you is right wing.

Hexx to the left of Lenin

Saint of Killers wrote:

Hexx wrote:So SoK's gone for "the repressed minority is the white guy with weird ears"

It's a bold answer, I'll give him that.

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I asked who it was, and you picked whitey! Don't give me that look


The more I see these NeoNazis the more I think Hitler would be turned in his grave. Weak looking. Pale. Either Screwy or overweight. Brown or Ginger hair. That's not his dream. Poor Hitler

Knoyleo wrote:Hexx to the left of Lenin

That was the best line.

captain red dog wrote:Don't be a cretin Hexx, I am not blaming the left. What you will see is an ongoing escalation, look at the "battle of Berkley" compared to this, now people are dying.

Ah so left turned up armed with guns and riot gear did they?
"The left" killed someone did they or injured? (Or in any other recent events in those type of numbers)
The "left" elected a demagogue President on a campaign of hate speech?

"Escalation". Nice to see you've swallowed Trumps "on all sides" nonsense hook, line and plonker. "Not blaming the left" indeed.

What exactly have the left done to "escalate" in real terms at all....never mind compared to the alt-right's list?

But yeah by all means condone violently opposing these morons as long as you are prepared to meet armed strawberry floating Nazis along with the rest of the counter protestors.

Victim blaming and defending the racists. "You punched a racist. It's your fault if the racist gets a gun" Still "Not blaming the left" though?

False equivalency and absolution of blame.

I have never voted for a right wing party in my life, aside from New Labour,

Ignoring the fact you don't actually have to have voted to support or agree with ideas. Your arguement (on your own terms) is "I've never done something except when I did")

Just because you are to the left of Lenin

Wow. That's the "totally got a handle on the facts" cherry on the cake

Hexx wrote:

Saint of Killers wrote:

Hexx wrote:So SoK's gone for "the repressed minority is the white guy with weird ears"

It's a bold answer, I'll give him that.

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I asked who it was, and you picked whitey! Don't give me that look


The more I see these NeoNazis the more I think Hitler would be turned in his grave. Weak looking. Pale. Either Screwy or overweight. Brown or Ginger hair. That's not his dream. Poor Hitler

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/\ Clearly been keeping the gene pool pure through inbreeding.

Mafro wrote:.

It's horrible to laugh at someone's physical appearance, but....

Poor Hitler

Mafro wrote:

Hexx wrote:

Saint of Killers wrote:

Hexx wrote:So SoK's gone for "the repressed minority is the white guy with weird ears"

It's a bold answer, I'll give him that.

¬__________¬

I asked who it was, and you picked whitey! Don't give me that look


The more I see these NeoNazis the more I think Hitler would be turned in his grave. Weak looking. Pale. Either Screwy or overweight. Brown or Ginger hair. That's not his dream. Poor Hitler

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The master race.

captain red dog wrote:What you will see is an ongoing escalation

Nope. The White Supremacists literally want to see the US purged of immigrants and people of colour. The counter protesters want equality. The Nazi's views haven't hardened, they've just become more visible as they've been enabled by a President who relied on their vote to get into office.

Loving this neo Nazi fashion; chinos, white shirts, styled hair.

So stylish.

Complete side note:

I'd highly recommend "Look Who's Back"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Look_Who%27s_Back

It's basically Hitler coming back to life in the modern day and experiencing the mid 2010s from his perspective (and how the world reacts to him)

It's a rather good read (there's also a film)

Hexx wrote:Complete side note:

I'd highly recommend "Look Who's Back"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Look_Who%27s_Back

It's basically Hitler coming back to life in the modern day and experiencing the mid 2010s from his perspective (and how the world reacts to him)

It's a rather good read (there's also a film)

I've not read the book, but I saw the movie on Netflix (not sure if it's still there). I recommend it.

Brerlappin wrote:I know its practically a cliche now, but why is it that its always the worst examples of white people championing white supremacy? Like you're never going to see a Chris Hemsworth looking dude out in a MAGA hat or waving a swastika. strawberry floating losers.

Hitler was a short, dark haired, weak looking Austrian but managed to make people think that the best people were tall, blonde, muscular Germans.

Nazis aren't the brightest of people.

Pence is getting credit for doing the bare minimum a politician should in these events - but there's something unpleasant in his words as well

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mik ... 24727556c4

“The president also made clear that behaviour by others of different militant perspectives are also unacceptable in our political debate and discourse. [...] I will say I take issue with the fact that many in the national media spent more time criticising the president’s words than they did criticising those that perpetrated the violence to begin with.”

The factionalisation of events/false labeling of groups is actually really rather insidious.

It's not "racists" vs "everyone else" (or even "non racists"). It's "Alt-Right" vs "Antifa". Both are subsets. Both are militant groups. Both are extreme/fringe perspectives.

Both Trump and Pence have effectively portrayed "anti racist" now as a minority militant perspective.

Both Pence and Trump have presented both sides as equivalent - and in the minds of large elements of the population it'll work to alter perspective on events. It's marginalizes and legitimizes one side as it's pushed equivalent to the other.

Gamergate was widely seen as a precursor to the rise of the alt-right - and you can see lots of the same tactics being used to gain traction.

It wasn't "conspiracy theorists"/"misogynistic trolls" and "everyone else", it had to be "Gamergate" and "anti-Gamergate".

The la belling of the "anti" position was a key tool in their armory in an attempt to gain traction and make progress.

In the minds of people that didn't know better it presented both as fringe groups, and therefore most people would assume the truth was "likely" in the middle.

It small use of words - but it redefined both what the "mainstream/status quo" position was to be instead some militant fringe perspective, and what a "compromise" position would be (to the advantage of GG...)

Brerlappin wrote:I know its practically a cliche now, but why is it that its always the worst examples of white people championing white supremacy? Like you're never going to see a Chris Hemsworth looking dude out in a MAGA hat or waving a swastika. strawberry floating losers.

Probably because the very people who become white supremacists are losers cut adrift from mainstream society. This gets added to economic hardship and they need someone else for their circumstances but themselves.

If only society was all-white then they'd be rich, successful, good looking and have a bigger penis.

White power! White Power!

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Heh.

Godwin's law (or Godwin's rule of Hitler analogies)[1][2] is an Internet adage that asserts that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Hitler approaches 1."[2][3]‍—‌that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or his deeds.

Parksey wrote:

Brerlappin wrote:I know its practically a cliche now, but why is it that its always the worst examples of white people championing white supremacy? Like you're never going to see a Chris Hemsworth looking dude out in a MAGA hat or waving a swastika. strawberry floating losers.

Probably because the very people who become white supremacists are losers cut adrift from mainstream society. This gets added to economic hardship and they need someone else for their circumstances but themselves.

If only society was all-white then they'd be rich, successful, good looking and have a bigger penis.

When some people think they're marginalised or at the bottom (whether they are or not) they want to keep others down so that there are people below them.

Inbred Nazi banana splits can say "yeah I'm low down, but at least I'm not black!". When black people gain more equality and women gain rights (not superiority, just something approaching equality) then it terrifies them, there one advantage, being white men, is at threat.

They are sad and pathetic little worms, but there are a lot of them about.

Saint of Killers wrote:

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Heh.

Godwin's law (or Godwin's rule of Hitler analogies)[1][2] is an Internet adage that asserts that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Hitler approaches 1."[2][3]‍—‌that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or his deeds.

This is only partially linked to the above, but Godwin's law is so misused. So strawberry floating what that somebody compared something to Nazis? Screaming "GODWIN'S LAW!" doesn't make the comparison false.

Of course comparisons to Nazis are also overused but Godwin's Law doesn't state you shouldn't use them, just that they will happen as a discussion goes on.