Rock the Casbah | Gaza and Israel at War Rd 232

Fed up talking videogames? Why?
User avatar
Meep
Member
Joined in 2010
Location: Belfast

PostRe: Rock the Casbah | Gaza and Israel at War Rd 232
by Meep » Sat Dec 01, 2012 5:33 pm

The way I think this will end is after decades of gradual erosion the remaining territories not belong to Israeli are completely annexed and the native population expatriated and made refugees in neighboring Arab states, who will not exactly greet them with open arms. If by the end of the twenty-first century this has not happened I would be surprised.

Israel's unofficial policy is to keep pushing out walls and settlements until they have total control of the region. It's the only way to explain why their actions do not match their words.

User avatar
Alvin Flummux
Member
Joined in 2008
Location: Wilmington, OH, USA
Contact:

PostRe: Rock the Casbah | Gaza and Israel at War Rd 232
by Alvin Flummux » Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:48 am

That's what I think as well. I really do hope that their advances can someday be checked by their neighbors though. Not to destroy Israel, but to put the brakes on its expansionist policies and hopefully give Palestinians back their land.

Jupiter is in your sun sign this week, making it pretty crowded in there, what with Jupiter being the largest of the planets and all.
User avatar
Fatal Exception
Member
Joined in 2008
AKA: Racist chinese lover
Location: ಠ_ಠ

PostRe: Rock the Casbah | Gaza and Israel at War Rd 232
by Fatal Exception » Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:26 am

Alvin Flummux wrote:That's what I think as well. I really do hope that their advances can someday be checked by their neighbors though. Not to destroy Israel, but to put the brakes on its expansionist policies and hopefully give Palestinians back their land.

"Their" land. You can't, like, own, land man.

The above post, unless specifically stated to the contrary, should not be taken seriously. If the above post has offended you in any way, please fill in this form and return it to your nearest moderator.
Image
User avatar
Moggy
"Special"
Joined in 2008

PostRe: Rock the Casbah | Gaza and Israel at War Rd 232
by Moggy » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:12 am

Fatal Exception wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:That's what I think as well. I really do hope that their advances can someday be checked by their neighbors though. Not to destroy Israel, but to put the brakes on its expansionist policies and hopefully give Palestinians back their land.

"Their" land. You can't, like, own, land man.


strawberry floating hippy.

User avatar
Fatal Exception
Member
Joined in 2008
AKA: Racist chinese lover
Location: ಠ_ಠ

PostRe: Rock the Casbah | Gaza and Israel at War Rd 232
by Fatal Exception » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:19 am

Moggy wrote:
Fatal Exception wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:That's what I think as well. I really do hope that their advances can someday be checked by their neighbors though. Not to destroy Israel, but to put the brakes on its expansionist policies and hopefully give Palestinians back their land.

"Their" land. You can't, like, own, land man.


strawberry floating hippy.


True, I do have certain hippy ideals. I do find the whole concept of land ownership absolutely ridiculous though. I mean who gives a gooseberry fool? Why can't everyone just get along?

The above post, unless specifically stated to the contrary, should not be taken seriously. If the above post has offended you in any way, please fill in this form and return it to your nearest moderator.
Image
User avatar
$ilva $hadow
Member
Joined in 2008

PostRe: Rock the Casbah | Gaza and Israel at War Rd 232
by $ilva $hadow » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:03 am

You can't own land, before the Palestinians were there, there was another group of people living there before the vile Muslims came and raped and pillaged those places. Who are they to claim the land rightfully belongs to them? Their ancestors were a bunch of rapist scum just like they claim the Israelis are :lol:

User avatar
kommissarboris
Member
Joined in 2009
Location: belfast

PostRe: Rock the Casbah | Gaza and Israel at War Rd 232
by kommissarboris » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:05 am

You can own land.

I own some land.

I'll kill anyone of you mummy strawberry floaters who go near my land.

Its mine.

The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them in parliament.

Image
User avatar
1cmanny1
Member ♥
Joined in 2008
Location: New Zealand

PostRe: Rock the Casbah | Gaza and Israel at War Rd 232
by 1cmanny1 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:07 am

You can own land, but if I am more powerful I can take that land from you.

Image
User avatar
kommissarboris
Member
Joined in 2009
Location: belfast

PostRe: Rock the Casbah | Gaza and Israel at War Rd 232
by kommissarboris » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:09 am

You can try.

The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them in parliament.

Image
User avatar
1cmanny1
Member ♥
Joined in 2008
Location: New Zealand

PostRe: Rock the Casbah | Gaza and Israel at War Rd 232
by 1cmanny1 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:11 am

kommissarboris wrote:You can try.


I bet I am younger than you, I will just wait patiently.

Also I need to think this, otherwise I can't complain about the Maori's complaining.

Image
User avatar
Moggy
"Special"
Joined in 2008

PostRe: Rock the Casbah | Gaza and Israel at War Rd 232
by Moggy » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:15 am

I assume the people who think that you “can’t own land” are happy for strangers to just wander around their homes? :lol:

User avatar
Meep
Member
Joined in 2010
Location: Belfast

PostRe: Rock the Casbah | Gaza and Israel at War Rd 232
by Meep » Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:49 pm

The concept of a home is different to that of land ownership. For example, if you lived in a rented house you would not own it but it is still your home, so your landlord just coming in whenever they please would not be acceptable.

The socialist in me does think land ownership is a kind of theft. You see, before the land belonged to no one and therefore it also belonged to everyone; so the act of marking out a part of land and its physical resources for oneself was in fact a form of theft. The first primitive lords who marked off choice fields for himself was a thief. I need not mention that through much history this land was exchanged by means of one owner brutally slaughtering the previous owners.

For example, let's say I own a mine. I pay people to mine things out of the mine and sit on the profits without doing anything myself. Is that fair? After all, how did I actually come to own the mine in the first place? Yes, I could have bought it or inherited it, but ultimately that does not matter. Originally the land and its resources belonged to no one and therefore every owner since the original is complicit in stealing those resources from everyone else. People have a right to work the land and keep the fruits of that labour for themselves, yes, but they should not have a right to live off it simply by claiming ownership. You did not create the land or its mineral wealth.

P.S. If anyone here owns a house I'm not saying the house isn't yours and you aren't entitled to privacy in your home, I'm just saying that by all rights the land the house is sitting on belongs to everyone. In fact, in a lot of cases it actually doesn't and you are paying the British crown for 'your' land as part of a relic of feudalism, but that's kind of unique to the UK.

User avatar
kommissarboris
Member
Joined in 2009
Location: belfast

PostRe: Rock the Casbah | Gaza and Israel at War Rd 232
by kommissarboris » Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:05 pm

1xmassy1 wrote:
kommissarboris wrote:You can try.


I bet I am younger than you, I will just wait patiently.

Also I need to think this, otherwise I can't complain about the Maori's complaining.


I'll throw a spear at you if you come near my land.

I'm good with a spear.

The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them in parliament.

Image
User avatar
Moggy
"Special"
Joined in 2008

PostRe: Rock the Casbah | Gaza and Israel at War Rd 232
by Moggy » Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:08 pm

Meep wrote:The concept of a home is different to that of land ownership. For example, if you lived in a rented house you would not own it but it is still your home, so your landlord just coming in whenever they please would not be acceptable.

The socialist in me does think land ownership is a kind of theft. You see, before the land belonged to no one and therefore it also belonged to everyone; so the act of marking out a part of land and its physical resources for oneself was in fact a form of theft. The first primitive lords who marked off choice fields for himself was a thief. I need not mention that through much history this land was exchanged by means of one owner brutally slaughtering the previous owners.

For example, let's say I own a mine. I pay people to mine things out of the mine and sit on the profits without doing anything myself. Is that fair? After all, how did I actually come to own the mine in the first place? Yes, I could have bought it or inherited it, but ultimately that does not matter. Originally the land and its resources belonged to no one and therefore every owner since the original is complicit in stealing those resources from everyone else. People have a right to work the land and keep the fruits of that labour for themselves, yes, but they should not have a right to live off it simply by claiming ownership. You did not create the land or its mineral wealth.

P.S. If anyone here owns a house I'm not saying the house isn't yours and you aren't entitled to privacy in your home, I'm just saying that by all rights the land the house is sitting on belongs to everyone. In fact, in a lot of cases it actually doesn't and you are paying the British crown for 'your' land as part of a relic of feudalism, but that's kind of unique to the UK.


Get orf my laaaand.

Image

User avatar
Moggy
"Special"
Joined in 2008

PostRe: Rock the Casbah | Gaza and Israel at War Rd 232
by Moggy » Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:10 pm

As a more serious answer, do you consider that people actually own anything? Everything we have once “belonged to nobody” and what gave companies the right to mine materials to make anything that you “own”?

User avatar
Skarjo
Emeritus
Joined in 2008

PostRe: Rock the Casbah | Gaza and Israel at War Rd 232
by Skarjo » Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:11 pm

Bunch of slack-jawed hippies up in here.

Blue Eyes wrote:No wonder I'm eating my balls instead of sweets.

Skarjo's Scary Stories...
User avatar
kommissarboris
Member
Joined in 2009
Location: belfast

PostRe: Rock the Casbah | Gaza and Israel at War Rd 232
by kommissarboris » Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:15 pm

Skar-Hohoho wrote:Bunch of slack-jawed hippies up in here.


I'm no hippy.

consider yourself on the spearing list too.

The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them in parliament.

Image
User avatar
Moggy
"Special"
Joined in 2008

PostRe: Rock the Casbah | Gaza and Israel at War Rd 232
by Moggy » Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:15 pm

kommissarbaubles wrote:
Skar-Hohoho wrote:Bunch of slack-jawed hippies up in here.


I'm no hippy.

consider yourself on the spearing list too.


But you are slack-jawed?

User avatar
kommissarboris
Member
Joined in 2009
Location: belfast

PostRe: Rock the Casbah | Gaza and Israel at War Rd 232
by kommissarboris » Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:17 pm

Moggy wrote:
kommissarbaubles wrote:
Skar-Hohoho wrote:Bunch of slack-jawed hippies up in here.


I'm no hippy.

consider yourself on the spearing list too.


But you are slack-jawed?


you've just added yourself to my list son.

The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class are to represent and repress them in parliament.

Image
User avatar
Moggy
"Special"
Joined in 2008

PostRe: Rock the Casbah | Gaza and Israel at War Rd 232
by Moggy » Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:19 pm

kommissarbaubles wrote:
Moggy wrote:
kommissarbaubles wrote:
Skar-Hohoho wrote:Bunch of slack-jawed hippies up in here.


I'm no hippy.

consider yourself on the spearing list too.


But you are slack-jawed?


you've just added yourself to my list son.


:lol:


Return to “Stuff”