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That's what I think as well. I really do hope that their advances can someday be checked by their neighbors though. Not to destroy Israel, but to put the brakes on its expansionist policies and hopefully give Palestinians back their land.

Alvin Flummux wrote:That's what I think as well. I really do hope that their advances can someday be checked by their neighbors though. Not to destroy Israel, but to put the brakes on its expansionist policies and hopefully give Palestinians back their land.

"Their" land. You can't, like, own, land man.

Fatal Exception wrote:

Alvin Flummux wrote:That's what I think as well. I really do hope that their advances can someday be checked by their neighbors though. Not to destroy Israel, but to put the brakes on its expansionist policies and hopefully give Palestinians back their land.

"Their" land. You can't, like, own, land man.

strawberry floating hippy.

Moggy wrote:

Fatal Exception wrote:

Alvin Flummux wrote:That's what I think as well. I really do hope that their advances can someday be checked by their neighbors though. Not to destroy Israel, but to put the brakes on its expansionist policies and hopefully give Palestinians back their land.

"Their" land. You can't, like, own, land man.

strawberry floating hippy.

True, I do have certain hippy ideals. I do find the whole concept of land ownership absolutely ridiculous though. I mean who gives a gooseberry fool? Why can't everyone just get along?

You can't own land, before the Palestinians were there, there was another group of people living there before the vile Muslims came and raped and pillaged those places. Who are they to claim the land rightfully belongs to them? Their ancestors were a bunch of rapist scum just like they claim the Israelis are

You can own land.

I own some land.

I'll kill anyone of you mummy strawberry floaters who go near my land.

Its mine.

You can own land, but if I am more powerful I can take that land from you.

You can try.

kommissarboris wrote:You can try.

I bet I am younger than you, I will just wait patiently.

Also I need to think this, otherwise I can't complain about the Maori's complaining.

I assume the people who think that you “can’t own land” are happy for strangers to just wander around their homes?

The concept of a home is different to that of land ownership. For example, if you lived in a rented house you would not own it but it is still your home, so your landlord just coming in whenever they please would not be acceptable.

The socialist in me does think land ownership is a kind of theft. You see, before the land belonged to no one and therefore it also belonged to everyone; so the act of marking out a part of land and its physical resources for oneself was in fact a form of theft. The first primitive lords who marked off choice fields for himself was a thief. I need not mention that through much history this land was exchanged by means of one owner brutally slaughtering the previous owners.

For example, let's say I own a mine. I pay people to mine things out of the mine and sit on the profits without doing anything myself. Is that fair? After all, how did I actually come to own the mine in the first place? Yes, I could have bought it or inherited it, but ultimately that does not matter. Originally the land and its resources belonged to no one and therefore every owner since the original is complicit in stealing those resources from everyone else. People have a right to work the land and keep the fruits of that labour for themselves, yes, but they should not have a right to live off it simply by claiming ownership. You did not create the land or its mineral wealth.

P.S. If anyone here owns a house I'm not saying the house isn't yours and you aren't entitled to privacy in your home, I'm just saying that by all rights the land the house is sitting on belongs to everyone. In fact, in a lot of cases it actually doesn't and you are paying the British crown for 'your' land as part of a relic of feudalism, but that's kind of unique to the UK.

1xmassy1 wrote:

kommissarboris wrote:You can try.

I bet I am younger than you, I will just wait patiently.

Also I need to think this, otherwise I can't complain about the Maori's complaining.

I'll throw a spear at you if you come near my land.

I'm good with a spear.

Meep wrote:The concept of a home is different to that of land ownership. For example, if you lived in a rented house you would not own it but it is still your home, so your landlord just coming in whenever they please would not be acceptable.

The socialist in me does think land ownership is a kind of theft. You see, before the land belonged to no one and therefore it also belonged to everyone; so the act of marking out a part of land and its physical resources for oneself was in fact a form of theft. The first primitive lords who marked off choice fields for himself was a thief. I need not mention that through much history this land was exchanged by means of one owner brutally slaughtering the previous owners.

For example, let's say I own a mine. I pay people to mine things out of the mine and sit on the profits without doing anything myself. Is that fair? After all, how did I actually come to own the mine in the first place? Yes, I could have bought it or inherited it, but ultimately that does not matter. Originally the land and its resources belonged to no one and therefore every owner since the original is complicit in stealing those resources from everyone else. People have a right to work the land and keep the fruits of that labour for themselves, yes, but they should not have a right to live off it simply by claiming ownership. You did not create the land or its mineral wealth.

P.S. If anyone here owns a house I'm not saying the house isn't yours and you aren't entitled to privacy in your home, I'm just saying that by all rights the land the house is sitting on belongs to everyone. In fact, in a lot of cases it actually doesn't and you are paying the British crown for 'your' land as part of a relic of feudalism, but that's kind of unique to the UK.

Get orf my laaaand.

As a more serious answer, do you consider that people actually own anything? Everything we have once “belonged to nobody” and what gave companies the right to mine materials to make anything that you “own”?

Bunch of slack-jawed hippies up in here.

Skar-Hohoho wrote:Bunch of slack-jawed hippies up in here.

I'm no hippy.

consider yourself on the spearing list too.

kommissarbaubles wrote:

Skar-Hohoho wrote:Bunch of slack-jawed hippies up in here.

I'm no hippy.

consider yourself on the spearing list too.

But you are slack-jawed?

Moggy wrote:

kommissarbaubles wrote:

Skar-Hohoho wrote:Bunch of slack-jawed hippies up in here.

I'm no hippy.

consider yourself on the spearing list too.

But you are slack-jawed?

you've just added yourself to my list son.

kommissarbaubles wrote:

Moggy wrote:

kommissarbaubles wrote:

Skar-Hohoho wrote:Bunch of slack-jawed hippies up in here.

I'm no hippy.

consider yourself on the spearing list too.

But you are slack-jawed?

you've just added yourself to my list son.