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PostRe: Rugby Union Autumn Internationals 2010
by Scotticus Erroticus » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:33 pm

England were OUTSTANDING today. I was utterly stunned by their dominance in practically every department. They were really good and, for once, actually entertaining to watch! I really did not see that coming, I'm not sure they can keep that level of performance up? Either way you lot should be proud today. That performance was special.

Less said about Scotland the better. Humbled.

Haven't watched Wales, Italy or France yet but I shall do.

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by Something Fishy » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:44 pm

Can they keep it up?

I think they have the talent coming through to do so but i'm not convinced they're the finished article that can do it consistently yet.

Ben Youngs looks a seriousy special player.

I need to catch up with Frances game, solid win by the looks of it.

Feel sorry for young Evans at the end of the Scotland game. Those poor lads are cursed.

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by Scotticus Erroticus » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:41 am

They aren't the finished article BUT they certainly performed like it yesterday. As a Scot I normally feel intrinsically negative to watching England playing their negative workman like style of blehhhhhhhh they call rugby, in full knowledge that a lot of Angles feel the same, but yesterday I felt a genuine sense of pleasure watching England play an expansive, adventurous and brave style of rugby! A friend of mine said she couldn't be arsed watching the England match as she knew (win, lose or draw) that it was going to be a bore fest! Well, bugger me. I entirely agreed with her at the time.

Bugger me England. Where did that come from? If I'm honest, I don't think the scoreline did England justice. It certainly wasn't a one sided affair, but from my point of view you guys performed out of your skin.

Still not ready to discuss Scotland xxx

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PostRe: Rugby Union Autumn Internationals 2010
by Tomous » Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:12 am

Wales were unlucky yesterday I thought. Great start and if Shanklin had gone right to Lee Byrne in the second half would have probably won the game.

Steve Walsh had a stinker, missed penalties in the lead up to both their two trys which really hurt us. Saying that though, I'm not sure how Brian Moore was so adamant it wasn't crossing in George North's try :lol:

Still few positives to take, great debut for North. Hope Williams and Jenkins are alright for the remaining games.

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by Something Fishy » Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:30 am

Scotticus Erroticus wrote:They aren't the finished article BUT they certainly performed like it yesterday. As a Scot I normally feel intrinsically negative to watching England playing their negative workman like style of blehhhhhhhh they call rugby, in full knowledge that a lot of Angles feel the same, but yesterday I felt a genuine sense of pleasure watching England play an expansive, adventurous and brave style of rugby! A friend of mine said she couldn't be arsed watching the England match as she knew (win, lose or draw) that it was going to be a bore fest! Well, bugger me. I entirely agreed with her at the time.

Bugger me England. Where did that come from? If I'm honest, I don't think the scoreline did England justice. It certainly wasn't a one sided affair, but from my point of view you guys performed out of your skin.

Still not ready to discuss Scotland xxx


That's the style Johnson has been trying to build towards but it's taken time and needed the right players to be possible I think. Finally they have a bunch of ball players in the forwards and backs that can play that way. Was a pleasure. Lets see how they go from here. I hope they can keep it up.

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PostRe: Rugby Union Autumn Internationals 2010
by Slartibartfast » Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:15 pm

Tomous wrote:Wales were unlucky yesterday I thought. Great start and if Shanklin had gone right to Lee Byrne in the second half would have probably won the game.

Steve Walsh had a stinker, missed penalties in the lead up to both their two trys which really hurt us. Saying that though, I'm not sure how Brian Moore was so adamant it wasn't crossing in George North's try :lol:

Still few positives to take, great debut for North. Hope Williams and Jenkins are alright for the remaining games.


The crossing was a very 50/50 one. Either way would have been acceptable to me, since the defencder had fully comitted to the wrong player, but also didn't have the chance to pointlessly lung towards North.

Wales should have scored but they needed more support runners at the end - especially with Shanklin's breaks. Also, a few poor kicking choices in attack.

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PostRe: Rugby Union Autumn Internationals 2010
by Qikz » Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:34 pm

I saw a bit of Wales vs South Africa yesterday, that was to do with this right?

I actually really enjoy watching Rugby, well compared to football anyway. I don't know much about it, but I know it's enjoyable to watch. I might watch the next time England play, not seen them place since we won against South Africa? in the World Cup finals a good few years back.

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PostRe: Rugby Union Autumn Internationals 2010
by Drumstick » Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:42 pm

That was Australia. We lost to South Africa in the 2007 final.

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PostRe: Rugby Union Autumn Internationals 2010
by Qikz » Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:49 pm

Ah Australia, I thought it was either them or SA but couldn't remember, feels like a while ago. :lol:

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PostRe: Rugby Union Autumn Internationals 2010
by Tomous » Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:26 pm

Slartibartfast wrote:
Tomous wrote:Wales were unlucky yesterday I thought. Great start and if Shanklin had gone right to Lee Byrne in the second half would have probably won the game.

Steve Walsh had a stinker, missed penalties in the lead up to both their two trys which really hurt us. Saying that though, I'm not sure how Brian Moore was so adamant it wasn't crossing in George North's try :lol:

Still few positives to take, great debut for North. Hope Williams and Jenkins are alright for the remaining games.


The crossing was a very 50/50 one. Either way would have been acceptable to me, since the defencder had fully comitted to the wrong player, but also didn't have the chance to pointlessly lung towards North.

Wales should have scored but they needed more support runners at the end - especially with Shanklin's breaks. Also, a few poor kicking choices in attack.


Shanklin had support from Byrne on his best break though, and didn't take it :fp:

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PostRe: Rugby Union Autumn Internationals 2010
by OrcaSplash » Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:39 pm

:fp: :fp:

If you guys care to take a look at my comments on the 1st page I think you will not be surprised when I took England to be good favourites for yesterdays game and that I also made a few quid by backing them to win by over 12.

As I indicated earlier this England side are building to be world beaters and I honestly believe they are going to go into next years RWC on an equal footing with NZ as tournament favourites.

Loved the game yesterday as Australia just did not see that coming...bit daft really as IMO England where a superior side to NZ in the Test the week before and with a tad more discipline and composure would have beaten them handily. All the signs where there for Australia but they failed to see them and just could not reply to a mobile and attacking England side. As I said before the game England need to deliver a solid 80 and when they do this they will win, they did this yesterday and they won.

I really believe we haven't seen anything yet. I said on page 1 that people would be shocked by how well England play in the AI's and I think that after the Samoa and SA games people are really going to stand up and take notice. I have spoken with people on the inside at Pennyhill camp and what this side have now is by all accounts very special, this playing style is not just a Wales style chuck it and hope but a methodical heads up and free reign attacking style coupled with a rigouous defense...I think the way Youngs decided to play the ball from his own try line and release Ashton for the breakaway try perfectly encapsulates this new dynamic team and style...18 months ago we would have seen Ellis just kicking for touch and being happy just to take the pressure off.

Good times for England fans....a long wait but worth it in the end.

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PostRe: Rugby Union Autumn Internationals 2010
by peckish » Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:41 pm

Great result by Munster - assuming they don't implode in the last 5

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PostRe: Rugby Union Autumn Internationals 2010
by Taoist Slacker » Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:21 pm

How gooseberry fool are Wales :shock:

Bet the All Blacks are licking their lips for next week.

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PostRe: Rugby Union Autumn Internationals 2010
by Scotticus Erroticus » Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:26 pm

That was an amazing end to the match. I was sooooooooooo happy for Fiji to get what they thoroughly deserved. strawberry floating fantastic!!

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by Something Fishy » Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:29 pm

Can I just send a big "Well done!" to my fellow Cornishman Josh Matavesi.

Yes he's from Camborne, rival town to my sons Redruth :lol: but it's awesome to see a local boy play such good international rugby.

(His Dad was a Fijian player, late Mum a local girl - he was raised here).

Wales are back to square zero. I hope England don't just assume they need to turn up.. beating Samoa is an equally big task if you take them lightly.

So onto the AB's for Wales. Chances?

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PostRe: Rugby Union Autumn Internationals 2010
by Taoist Slacker » Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:30 pm

Loved the way they didn't even have anybody in the pocket for the DG! They kept turning down the draw in the hope of the win.

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by Something Fishy » Fri Nov 19, 2010 9:35 pm

Taoist Slacker wrote:Loved the way they didn't even have anybody in the pocket for the DG! They kept turning down the draw in the hope of the win.


Watching Josh all those years I wasn't suprised. It was never his style.

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PostRe: Rugby Union Autumn Internationals 2010
by Slartibartfast » Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:54 am

I was at the stadium tonight, was a good match from our point of view (I invested in a ref link radio - was awesome... bridges the gap between live rugby where you're not sure what's going on and the TV). Not sure on the penalty try, I think the ref just wanted to move play on from the 5 minutes of scrummage, but it wasn't what I'd call a situation that merited a 'probable' try.

Still, last match it was 11-10 to Wales, now 16-16... next year will be a cracker I'm sure.

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PostRe: Rugby Union Autumn Internationals 2010
by sawyerpip » Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:06 am

Slartibartfast wrote:I was at the stadium tonight, was a good match from our point of view (I invested in a ref link radio - was awesome... bridges the gap between live rugby where you're not sure what's going on and the TV). Not sure on the penalty try, I think the ref just wanted to move play on from the 5 minutes of scrummage, but it wasn't what I'd call a situation that merited a 'probable' try.

Still, last match it was 11-10 to Wales, now 16-16... next year will be a cracker I'm sure.


What? That was nowhere near a good match for us, we played awfully, we made so many stupid mistakes. No disrespect to Fiji but they are a team we should be beating comfortably, not drawing with. I was hoping the players would be up for it tonight, seeing as a few of them were involved in the loss in the world cup, to make amends so to speak, but apparently not. A poor performance, we were lucky to get the draw. However, I am a constant optimist/delusional and I still think we will beat the All Blacks next week, and I have tickets too :D Should be a good match anyway.

And in regards to the penalty try, it was definitely warranted. I'm guessing from where you were, you couldn't see, but their prop couldnot handle Adam Jones (I'm quite drunk, it was the prop on this side yes?) at all, kept popping up. So much so that they replaced him to avoid him getting a sin bin. After the 6th time the ref gave the try, fully deserved, too bad Wales were so mediocre everywhere else.


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