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by Irene Demova » Fri Jul 04, 2014 3:21 am

"Women are property" - Lucien 2012

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by aayl1 » Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:30 am

I think the only way to solve this is to attach a "pro igor/anti Igor" poll to the thread.

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by Pontius Pilate » Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:40 am

This thread would be half as long as it is if we just stopped having the "you're such a baddy, don't kiss girls who have boyfriends" discussion. It's boring. Igor doesn't care what you think, and the girl he slept with probably doesn't give a strawberry float either. Just stop. :fp:

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by 1cmanny1 » Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:55 am

I will be sure to tell that to the next person who comes in here upset over a Brandon wannabe coming along.

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by Pontius Pilate » Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:42 am

[iup=3498757]Lucien[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3498753]Pontius Pilate[/iup] wrote:This thread would be half as long as it is if we just stopped having the "you're such a baddy, don't kiss girls who have boyfriends" discussion. It's boring. Igor doesn't care what you think, and the girl he slept with probably doesn't give a strawberry float either. Just stop. :fp:


This discussion happens a lot? strawberry float me.


I think so. :lol: I certainly recall it coming up quite regularly. And it's always the same posters for and against it, with the same arguments every time.

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by Victor Mildew » Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:13 am

The lamppost was 3 years ago?! :dread:

We've all changed so much in that time :simper:

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by Irene Demova » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:49 am

[iup=3498750]Lucien[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3498749]Irene Demova[/iup] wrote:"Women are property" - Lucien 2012


Cheers Irene; feel free to jump in with muddy, asinine comments like that more often. Or, y'know, don't.

Feel free to make more muddy, asinine comparisons between people and strawberry floating objects you massive twat

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by Skarjo » Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:16 am

[iup=3498757]Lucien[/iup] wrote: I vaguely remember having a semi once in the past with Skarjo.



Sssshhhhh.

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by OnlyShallow » Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:55 am

[iup=3498755]1cmanny1[/iup] wrote:I will be sure to tell that to the next person who comes in here upset over a Brandon wannabe coming along.


If you read over my posts at the time of my marriage breaking up, you'll see that at no time did I blame him for it. As other have said, the onus was on my wife to stay faithful. Brandon was just a tool for her to use to escape her unhappiness. She still isn't happy. And Brandon is now living in a homeless unit, feeling suicidal.

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by Skarjo » Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:05 am

[iup=3498882]OnlyShallow[/iup] wrote:And Brandon is now living in a homeless unit, feeling suicidal.


Your ex is quite the force of nature, by the sounds of it.

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by OnlyShallow » Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:09 am

Yeah, she leaves quite a trail of devastation in her wake. She is quite the narcissist.

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by degoose » Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:23 am

[iup=3498895]OnlyShallow[/iup] wrote:Yeah, she leaves quite a trail of devastation in her wake. She is quite the narcissist.


i'm sure that's a large percentage of women. :lol:

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by Irene Demova » Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:14 pm

Nah, you explicitly compared sleeping with a woman in a relationship to "buying stolen goods"; in the course of this strained metaphor you directly compared the cheating partner to "goods" or property

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by Victor Mildew » Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:17 pm

Float it like ya stole it yo

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by OnlyShallow » Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:47 pm

[iup=3499101]Lucien[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3499068]Irene Demova[/iup] wrote:Nah, you explicitly compared sleeping with a woman in a relationship to "buying stolen goods"; in the course of this strained metaphor you directly compared the cheating partner to "goods" or property


No I didn't. aay1 said the onus was on the person in a relationship and Igor did nothing wrong. I said that's similar to how my uncle justifies buying stolen goods. The implied point of comparison was the "I did nothing wrong, someone else did". I could have used a different example.

I wouldn't explicitly say something I don't believe. Even if I had said the acts were the same, that still wouldn't mean I think women are like property. I don't believe for a second you think that I think that, either.

Your analogy is pish.

Speaking as someone who has experience of this, I have to say you have a very naïve view of relationships.

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by That's not a growth » Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:09 pm

Long post warning. No real point to it either, just need to get it out of my head I think:

Things going OK with tinder girl except one thing, she's pretty jealous of one of my female friends. She does have a pretty good reason to, though. Well, to begin with.

So, last Friday was my birthday and I had a load of friends come over. Tinder girl (TG) was there from the start since she spent the previous night with me and got introduced to people. This was the first time she was meeting all my friends bar 1, and about 18 people turned up so she was pretty nervous about meeting this many people so got a bit drunk. Rough timeline:

5ish: Start drinking. I start slow, so beer, since I'm cooking for everyone. (TG) goes straight onto vodka.
7ish: Most people here now, including (C) and (L), who had a bit of a relationship problem a couple of weeks ago which I fixed with my advice. I'm was close with these two before all that happened, but now very much so.
9ish: I get off the phone with my sister who is currently in America, (TG) walks in on me finishing the conversation by saying we should skype soon, she assumes I'm talking to my ex from Tiawan based on this information alone. I quickly set her straight.
10ish When one of my mates (R) finished work his girlfriend (E), who was with me already, mentioned to him by phone that she reckoned I wasn't drunk enough so even though I was now drinking rum he arrived with a bottle of jager for us to share and a bottle of prosecco as well. By this point (TG) has slowed down on drinking so staying level, but still pretty drunk. From this point on I get very drunk, very quickly since I'm mixing the two of them, drinking shots of jager straight from the bottle and still finishing my rum.
11ish: (C) has to leave since he has work the next morning.
I don't remember much after this point, almost everything from here I've been told by people.
12ish: People who were on the evening shift at work arrive, including someone who I've only known a few days (Z) (this wasn't an issue, I was happy for her to come).
12ish: (L) and I are in the kitchen when (Z) arrives, and my arm is around her and we're talking along as we do. This is nothing out of the ordinary for us. (TG) gets introduced to (Z) by (E) as the girl I'm with and (Z) wont believe this and is very insistent that (L) and I are a couple even after (E) repeatedly tries to explain otherwise. (Z) apparently also said that (L) and I are a "cute couple" in front of (TG) during this.
1ish: (L) and I apparently keep going upstairs to talk quite a lot over the previous 2 hours. It's likely this is because we were talking about the problems she and (C) were having since no one else really knows about it so needed somewhere private, I remember doing this with both (L) and (C) a few times that night earlier so would make sense. (The problem basically being that (L) cheated on (C) partly due to them seeing the relationship as different things. (TG) knows about this since I needed someone to sound off against when I was giving (L) advice a few weeks ago and didn't think she would actually meet my friends at the time.)
1:30ish: we all get taxis in the city. I apparently almost forget about (TG) and get into the taxi that happens to have (L) in and (TG) gets a different one. I have also given (L) a jumper of mine to take out with her since she forgot hers.
2ish: (L) gets thrown out of a bar for being too drunk so I go to make sure she's OK. This is quite a common occurrence so I'm used to looking after her like this. She gets a taxi home with another friend and (TG) starts accusing me of wanting to be with (L) while we're in the street. At this point I don't know what happened with (Z) in the kitchen so I assume this is a follow up of her thinking I'm talking to my ex on the phone so get quite mad that she would make this leap in her head when I'm looking after a friend. She tries to call my bluff and tell me she's going, I let her.
2:15ish: As I'm walking home (E) calls me, I tell her what happened, by this point I'm already regretting it. She convinces me to come back, she calls (TG) and somehow makes it all better with her.

After enjoying another hour or so with friends (TG) and I eventually walk back to mine and when we get there I pass out on my bed and she actually tidies my house at 4 in the morning, filling two bin bags in the process.
We talk briefly the next day and I find out about what (Z) said, and we both agree we over reacted due to the alcohol.

(TG) Has been at mine since Monday since we both have the week off work and things have been very good. Basically just strawberry floating, napping and eating. Clothes only worn when we need to go outside really. But occasionally she'll make a "joke" about me and (L) which makes it painfully clear how she feels about mine and (L)'s friendship.

Tonight we should be meeting up with (E), who (TG) seems to get on with really well, so will be a good time to see what she thinks about the whole thing since I've only spoken to her (E) over Facebook over the last week.

But tomorrow I'm going to (L)'s brothers wedding for the evening do, with (C) being there all day. I'll be there as (L)'s friend, I don't know the bride or groom at all. (TG) hasn't said much about this, except keeps 'jokingly' reminding me to not strawberry floating anyone there, since I'll be spending the night in a hotel as well as a few other guests.

She also keeps telling me she's "smitten" with me. She keeps trying to get me to say the same back. In my mind "smitten" means love, I don't think it means that in her head but I can tell her feelings are growing.

But I like the time we spend together. Yesterday, for example, we strawberry floated for about 6 hours, got really drunk on wine, she made me spaghetti Bolognese, watched Superbad and we ended up playing the first couple of levels of Halo Anniversary on co-op.


So yeah, more of a ramble than a specific question.

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by OnlyShallow » Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:15 pm

[iup=3499138]Lucien[/iup] wrote: I don't see where being naive comes into it; I don't need to have been raped to understand why it's bad.

P.S. I am not saying sleeping with someone in a relationship is the same as raping someone.

Then why use raping someone alongside sleeping with someone in a relationship as examples of knowing right from wrong? People are very strawberry floating quick to judge people on this thread. Then I remember that everyone on here is a strawberry floating saint, with no faults or flaws.

Good on Igor, and Taf, and Brandon, and all the Branjohns and Brangelinas out there. I suppose I should add myself to the list.

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by Skarjo » Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:13 pm

Well, that's the term 'Branjelina' dead forever.

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by OnlyShallow » Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:22 pm

[iup=3499228]Lucien[/iup] wrote:Fair enough, some people don't think the kind of thing Igor did is a problem. From my perspective, I've seen people driven to the brink of suicide, or passed it, because of people cheating. It takes two people to create that scenario, so I'll always be against it myself.

No, it takes one person. If someone considers killing themselves because of someone else's infidelity then that is their decision. The gutless wanker. Seriously. See folk who go "if you leave me I'll kill myself." They are the true banana splits. Emotionally blackmailing people to stay in a relationship is the lowest of the low.

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by Banjo » Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:34 pm

I think it's worth considering that the 'other person' can also be highly manipulative and take advantage of someone who might otherwise not cheat. I knew someone like this (not Falsey) and he was a total prick, preying on the insecurities of vulnerable women and them dumping them to the side once he'd gotten in their pants.

For the most part I'm of the same belief as Skarjo and OnlyShallow, but let's not discount the reprehensible mummy strawberry floaters out there that feed on the weak.

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