A Song of Ice and Fire

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PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire
by smurphy » Sat May 30, 2015 12:24 am

Moggy wrote:If that's true my missus will kill me! I told her that spoiler because I had read they were not doing that in the show. :fp:


Well she'll never expect it then.
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PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire
by Moggy » Sat May 30, 2015 12:31 am

smurphy wrote:
Moggy wrote:If that's true my missus will kill me! I told her that spoiler because I had read they were not doing that in the show. :fp:


Well she'll never expect it then.


True, plus she should know that I am king of spoilers. 8-)
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PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire
by Irene Demova » Sat May 30, 2015 12:42 am

If she tries to mention it shout "NO BOOK DISCUSSION"
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by 1>3>4>2 » Sat May 30, 2015 3:36 am

Moggy wrote:If that's true my missus will kill me! I told her that spoiler because I had read they were not doing that in the show. :fp:


No one is safe from Moggy spoilers. Not even his loved ones.
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PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire
by Moggy » Sat May 30, 2015 11:18 am

Irene Demova wrote:If she tries to mention it shout "NO BOOK DISCUSSION"


:lol:

1>3>4>2 wrote:
Moggy wrote:If that's true my missus will kill me! I told her that spoiler because I had read they were not doing that in the show. :fp:


No one is safe from Moggy spoilers. Not even his loved ones.


:oops:
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PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire
by Memento Mori » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:31 pm

GRRM thinks he can finish Winds of Winter before season 6 of Game of Thrones starts.


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by 1>3>4>2 » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:35 pm

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by Irene Demova » Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:10 am

Does Theon ever stop being annoying? Dying doesn't count

I'm on my third attempt at trying to make it through his first chapter in A Clash of Kings but I lose the will to live every time he starts going on about bloody salt wives/acts like an arrogant naive tit in some way
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by Squinty » Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:48 am

Irene Demova wrote:Does Theon ever stop being annoying? Dying doesn't count

I'm on my third attempt at trying to make it through his first chapter in A Clash of Kings but I lose the will to live every time he starts going on about bloody salt wives/acts like an arrogant naive tit in some way


He turns out to be one of the more interesting characters. Persist with his chapters.

There's no strawberry floating way GRRM will finish Winds of Winter before Season 6.
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by Coreopsis » Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:59 am

Unless he's been trolling us all this time and actually has a lot of the script for the remaining books written down, just needing re-writes and stuff. :shock:

Actually, he did say AFFC/ADWD would be the most complex books to write out of all of them by far, due to the timelines and practical quandaries he hadn't anticipated earlier. He admitted he pretty much came to a standstill writing them (and I think it shows in those 2 books personally). Perhaps he's been racing along with the story since that roadblock....
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PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire
by Squinty » Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:51 am

I hope so, I really do. I reckon Winds of Winter will be comparable to Storm of Swords in terms of major events happening. I felt like Feast and Dance were setup books, placing all the pieces for something colossal to happen.

Spoiler'd as I don't want anyone excitement ruined if they haven't caught up with the books.
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PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire
by Memento Mori » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:34 pm

Irene Demova wrote:Does Theon ever stop being annoying? Dying doesn't count

I'm on my third attempt at trying to make it through his first chapter in A Clash of Kings but I lose the will to live every time he starts going on about bloody salt wives/acts like an arrogant naive tit in some way

His arrogance collapses very quickly. Power through.
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by Zartan » Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:28 pm

Okay this will be current with TV, and as of the end of Dances with Dragons, mainly me wondering how they will finish off the series and how it will conflict/overshoot the books
Clearly the first thing is, are we going to have a battle for Winterfell? If so I could easily see either side winning it. My gut says it has to go with Stannis due to the amount of support cast he has with him, and if the Boltons do win it makes things very, very strange for a lot of their story lines. Also in the TV series Ramsey heading out on his own does seem to be a fools errand, but again it could just be to delay the battle till next season.

The next point is they seem to be racing through the content from books 4 & 5, and they have set an awful lot of stuff up for the Nights Watch to rebel against Jon Snow already, and will they really leave that until next season? It would be awful to drag that out into a new season, and it would be a rather excellent cliff hanger for the end of the season, though if he is dead or not will quite quickly be revealed when they start shooting season 6. Still a good place to leave it.

So who do we all expect there to be a Battle for Winterfell this season? And if so who will win?
And do we expect Jon Snow to last the season?

Both of which will be huge, especially if they are what actually happens in the books
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PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire
by ChaosBreakGamer » Thu Jun 04, 2015 3:34 pm

I wanna make a suggestion here. It is my belief, that John Snow is in-fact the son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Liane Stark. We know that he was the one to give her a crown of flowers when winning a tournament and then, from what we know he kidnapped, raped and killed her. Edard then found her in a pool of blood (Potentially from childbirth) and that she told him "Promise me". As we know Robert would have murdered the child immediately he adopts him as his own. In addition, Shawn Bean (The actor of Edard) claimed that "We all know that Ned isn't his real dad, had to be reveled by someone".

As further proof, Targaryen represent fire, the south and passion. Whereas Stark represent the cold, cruel north. A union between the two, celebrated by singing, may even be referred to as "A Song of Ice and Fire"?
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by Memento Mori » Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:08 pm

R+L=J is the most accepted theory but I'd be very surprised if Rhaegar had raped her. Everyone's anecdotal evidence about Rhaegar apart from Robert Baratheon points to R and L eloping. That Knight of the Laughing Tree story in Storm of Swords especially .
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PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire
by Squinty » Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:12 pm

I read a really cool theory about the origins of the wall. There's some interesting fan theories out there, like Euron is Daario and Tyrion being the son of the mad king. It's cool that people are that invested in what will happen in this series.
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PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire
by Memento Mori » Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:18 pm

I'd hate it if Tyrion was a Targaryen. Jaime and Cersei though would make sense.
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PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire
by Ironhide » Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:23 pm

ChaosBreakGamer wrote:I wanna make a suggestion here. It is my belief, that John Snow is in-fact the son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Liane Stark. We know that he was the one to give her a crown of flowers when winning a tournament and then, from what we know he kidnapped, raped and killed her. Edard then found her in a pool of blood (Potentially from childbirth) and that she told him "Promise me". As we know Robert would have murdered the child immediately he adopts him as his own. In addition, Sean Bean (The actor of Edard) claimed that "We all know that Ned isn't his real dad, had to be reveled by someone".

As further proof, Targaryen represent fire, the south and passion. Whereas Stark represent the cold, cruel north. A union between the two, celebrated by singing, may even be referred to as "A Song of Ice and Fire"?


I've long suspected Jon is half Targeryan which explains the lack of silver hair or violet eyes and why everyone thinks he's Neds bastard.

I think he'll survive his stabbing by warging into either Ghost or the giant then back into his zombiefied body, which I reckon Coldhands/Benjen Stark did before

Memento Mori wrote:I'd hate it if Tyrion was a Targaryen. Jaime and Cersei though would make sense.


It'd be quite fitting that Tyrion is Tywins only true offspring.
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PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire
by Kanbei » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:04 pm

Ironhide wrote:
ChaosBreakGamer wrote:I wanna make a suggestion here. It is my belief, that John Snow is in-fact the son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Liane Stark. We know that he was the one to give her a crown of flowers when winning a tournament and then, from what we know he kidnapped, raped and killed her. Edard then found her in a pool of blood (Potentially from childbirth) and that she told him "Promise me". As we know Robert would have murdered the child immediately he adopts him as his own. In addition, Sean Bean (The actor of Edard) claimed that "We all know that Ned isn't his real dad, had to be reveled by someone".

As further proof, Targaryen represent fire, the south and passion. Whereas Stark represent the cold, cruel north. A union between the two, celebrated by singing, may even be referred to as "A Song of Ice and Fire"?


I've long suspected Jon is half Targeryan which explains the lack of silver hair or violet eyes and why everyone thinks he's Neds bastard.

I think he'll survive his stabbing by warging into either Ghost or the giant then back into his zombiefied body, which I reckon Coldhands/Benjen Stark did before


I reckon that;

Melisandre is still at the Wall in the books isn't she? So she will raise him from the dead a la Beric Dondarrion. And as he "died" it would mean his Watch has ended and therefore he will be allowed to do what he wants free from his oath.
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PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire
by Buffalo » Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:15 pm

Smashed through all of the books in the space of several weeks, they're absolutely brilliant. I don't want to watch the show because I think they've dicked about with too many things.
My DwD book had an excerpt of The Winds of Winter in the back! It was a Theon chapter and it seems to me that the timeline of WoW will be again uneven, with the events of Winterfell leading to Ramsey Snow sending that awful letter to Jon.
Top 5 predictions for Winds of Winter -

1) The Davos chapters will chronicle him going to Skagos to find Rickon Stark. They'll be a bit boring.
2) After Ramsay's letter, Stannis will fall at Winterfell
3) Brienne leads Jamie to the outlaw ambush, but will go back on her promise and the two escape
4) Cersei will win her freedom thanks to the Zombie Mountain and reclaim Kings Landing
5) Margery Tyrell will not
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