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Re: Sonic Mania - PS4/Xbox One/Switch - OUT NOW! | PC - 29th August.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:00 am
by KjGarly
Denuvo is want and easily cracked nowadays. I'm surprised there isn't a rip of Sonic Mania already on the yarrrr sites. Give it till the end of the week.

Re: Sonic Mania - PS4/Xbox One/Switch - OUT NOW! | PC - 29th August.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:13 am
by Alvin Flummux
There are mods already in development - new characters and music, apparently. :dread:

Re: Sonic Mania - PS4/Xbox One/Switch - OUT NOW! | PC - 29th August.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:47 am
by Johnny Ryall
Oh great because I really hated the music.

Re: Sonic Mania - PS4/Xbox One/Switch - OUT NOW! | PC - 29th August.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:22 am
by Fade
The act two oil ocean boss is absolutely strawberry floating awful, Why can the boss insta kill you by crushing you when it forces you to go in the water to damage him?

My last attempt, I jumped into one of his cannons to damage it, then bounce off into the water, and the boss sprtie spawning in crush me on the way up, before he even appeared on screen. I'll upload the clip tomorrow, it's an absolute joke.

Re: Sonic Mania - PS4/Xbox One/Switch - OUT NOW! | PC - 29th August.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:27 am
by Alvin Flummux
You're supposed to keep your distance and jump in from the side. The oil is not to be trifled with.

Re: Sonic Mania - PS4/Xbox One/Switch - OUT NOW! | PC - 29th August.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:14 am
by Lagamorph
It's just such a shame that in one fell swoop Sega have managed to kill all the enthusiasm and good will they got with the console launch. It's also going to make people a lot more wary of future Sega PC releases.
Oddly though their recent releases like Bayonetta and Vanquish didn't have Denuvo, so it's weird they'd choose to slap it onto Sonic Mania, even going so far as to delay the game 2 weeks to implement it.

Re: Sonic Mania - PS4/Xbox One/Switch - OUT NOW! | PC - 29th August.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:11 am
by Errkal
Lagamorph wrote:It's just such a shame that in one fell swoop Sega have managed to kill all the enthusiasm and good will they got with the console launch. It's also going to make people a lot more wary of future Sega PC releases.
Oddly though their recent releases like Bayonetta and Vanquish didn't have Denuvo, so it's weird they'd choose to slap it onto Sonic Mania, even going so far as to delay the game 2 weeks to implement it.

Mania was always going to be mega popular as it was a sonic game not done by Sega, they probably pushed to have the DRM because those dirty PC bastards will just steal it, and they wanted the money.

Thing is it isn't that pricey and yeah sure some will steal it there will always be some that don't want to pay for stuff, but it would have sold well this is only going to hurt it because Sega are strawberry floating idiots.

They seem to think they are Nintendo and they can do whatever and people will just forgive it.

Re: Sonic Mania - PS4/Xbox One/Switch - OUT NOW! | PC - 29th August.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:19 am
by Tafdolphin
Lagamorph wrote:Oddly though their recent releases like Bayonetta and Vanquish didn't have Denuvo, so it's weird they'd choose to slap it onto Sonic Mania, even going so far as to delay the game 2 weeks to implement it.


The Total War series is Denuvo'd out the arse. This isn't the first time they've strawberry floated around with shitty security options.

Re: Sonic Mania - PS4/Xbox One/Switch - OUT NOW! | PC - 29th August.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:22 am
by Lagamorph
Tafdolphin wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:Oddly though their recent releases like Bayonetta and Vanquish didn't have Denuvo, so it's weird they'd choose to slap it onto Sonic Mania, even going so far as to delay the game 2 weeks to implement it.


The Total War series is Denuvo'd out the arse. This isn't the first time they've strawberry floated around with shitty security options.

The difference is that Total War is a full price release though. Sonic Mania is priced at the same sort of levels as the Vanquish and Bayonetta PC ports and, like those, also has a console release rather than being PC exclusive.

Agents of Mayhem had Denuvo and took only 10 days to crack. If that's any indication it means that the DRM on Sonic Mania is going to take less time to crack than it took to actually implement.

Re: Sonic Mania - PS4/Xbox One/Switch - OUT NOW! | PC - 29th August.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:34 am
by Tafdolphin
Good points. And yeah, in no way am I defending Sega. Denuvo is godawful. strawberry float that gooseberry fool, I hope it gets pirated to strawberry float.

Re: Sonic Mania - PS4/Xbox One/Switch - OUT NOW! | PC - 29th August.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:39 am
by Victor Mildew
Going to get this for my switch :wub:

Re: Sonic Mania - PS4/Xbox One/Switch - OUT NOW! | PC - 29th August.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:45 am
by KjGarly
Ad7 wrote:Going to get this for my switch :wub:


Try switching to the Russian store and save a fiver :shifty:

Re: Sonic Mania - PS4/Xbox One/Switch - OUT NOW! | PC - 29th August.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:56 am
by Lagamorph
I'm tempted to refund the Steam version and get it for the Switch instead. The only reason I held out for the PC version was the possibility of mods and Denuvo kills that. Got less than 2 hours on the Steam version and bought it directly from them so can get a refund.

Also, what are those grey coin things in the Star Post Sonic 3 special zones for?

Re: Sonic Mania - PS4/Xbox One/Switch - OUT NOW! | PC - 29th August.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:59 am
by Johnny Ryall
They unlock extras

Re: Sonic Mania - PS4/Xbox One/Switch - OUT NOW! | PC - 29th August.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:47 am
by Lex-Man
They're meant to be silver, you can get gold if you get all the coins as well.

Re: Sonic Mania - PS4/Xbox One/Switch - OUT NOW! | PC - 29th August.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:48 am
by Lex-Man
I'm going to stay with the PC version and hope they remove the DRM at some point.

Re: Sonic Mania - PS4/Xbox One/Switch - OUT NOW! | PC - 29th August.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:20 am
by Winckle
Has anyone here actually been affected by Denuvo negatively? (other than mods)

I was surprised to learn a number of my games even had it, it was so unnoticeable.

Anyway, I bought it on Switch for portability.

Re: Sonic Mania - PS4/Xbox One/Switch - OUT NOW! | PC - 29th August.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:26 am
by Johnny Ryall
Nope. Although I get the politics behind it and agree it's Very Bad I wouldn't let it stop me getting a game I want.

Re: Sonic Mania - PS4/Xbox One/Switch - OUT NOW! | PC - 29th August.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:26 am
by Johnny Ryall
And they're rings not coins!

Re: Sonic Mania - PS4/Xbox One/Switch - OUT NOW! | PC - 29th August.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:25 pm
by Lagamorph
Winckle wrote:Has anyone here actually been affected by Denuvo negatively? (other than mods)

I was surprised to learn a number of my games even had it, it was so unnoticeable.

Anyway, I bought it on Switch for portability.

I think Denuvo has been demonstrated to put additional load onto RAM and CPU as well as noticeably increasing disk reads/writes, which can be a particular problem for SSDs.
Basically it makes your computer do more work than is necessary.