Oculus Rift thread - £399 Rift & Touch controller bundle!

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Which VR device(s) do you own/plan to buy?

Oculus Rift
3
18%
Steam VR (HTC, LG)
4
24%
Microsoft MR (Xbox, HP, Acer...)
3
18%
PlayStation VR
5
29%
Samsung Gear VR
2
12%
Google Daydream (Android)
0
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Total votes: 17
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PostRe: Oculus Rift - out 28th March (£499)
by Gently-Parted Ringpiece » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:29 pm

Actually Ive changed my mind. I think this is a smart business decision. Think of the amount they are going to make scalping all of the lonely neckbeards who just cant wait to boot up their anime sex simulators.

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PostRe: Oculus Rift - out 28th March (£499)
by NickSCFC » Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:25 pm

Falsey wrote:Actually Ive changed my mind. I think this is a smart business decision. Think of the amount they are going to make scalping all of the lonely neckbeards who just cant wait to boot up their anime sex simulators.


Problem is competition.

According to nVidia the install base for gaming PCs that can handle this is a 3rd of PS4's.

When you factor in the fact that these companies have to make a profit on hardware (unlike Sony) and that the PCs are expensive then the future doesn't look that promising for VR on PC.

I expect PlayStation and Samsung Galaxy to dominate the market.

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PostRe: Oculus Rift - out 28th March (£499)
by Brerlappin » Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:34 pm

I really, really wanted a rift. In fact i based my new PC build specifically around rift requirements. But that was when i thought it would launch for like 350 euro or so. €700? For strawberry floating real? Yeah, im gonna go with a big fat butt strawberry floating NOPE to that.

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PostRe: Oculus Rift - out 28th March (£499)
by Gently-Parted Ringpiece » Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:06 pm

NickSCFC wrote:
Falsey wrote:Actually Ive changed my mind. I think this is a smart business decision. Think of the amount they are going to make scalping all of the lonely neckbeards who just cant wait to boot up their anime sex simulators.


Problem is competition.

According to nVidia the install base for gaming PCs that can handle this is a 3rd of PS4's.

When you factor in the fact that these companies have to make a profit on hardware (unlike Sony) and that the PCs are expensive then the future doesn't look that promising for VR on PC.

I expect PlayStation and Samsung Galaxy to dominate the market.


Not true. PC hardware isnt static. What is this generations 970 is next generations 1060/50. Same again the year after. And the year after that.

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PostRe: Oculus Rift - out 28th March (£499)
by That's not a growth » Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:07 pm

Going by reports the next bump should be better than the last generation since they're finally shrinking chips. Time will tell.

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PostRe: Oculus Rift - out 28th March (£499)
by Gently-Parted Ringpiece » Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:16 pm

What Im getting at here is that the trend for the last 15 or so years has been that each year a new chipset rolls around and the features and performance that were previously in the high end bracket drop into the mainstream range.

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PostRe: Oculus Rift - out 28th March (£499)
by TheTurnipKing » Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:22 pm

Interesting thing in the "are you ready for oculus" thing, is that it seems that what matters is apparently single core performance, not the number of cores you have.

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by Trelliz » Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:24 pm


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PostRe: Oculus Rift - out 28th March (£499)
by NickSCFC » Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:34 pm

The issue is more to do with the overall price of entry, a VR gaming PC + Rift is far too out of reach to go mainstream.

PlayStation VR and Gear VR are the only ones that have a chance at being a mainstream success, you can quote me on that.

TheTurnipKing wrote:Interesting thing in the "are you ready for oculus" thing, is that it seems that what matters is apparently single core performance, not the number of cores you have.


Crap like this proves this will never go mainstream.

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by TheTurnipKing » Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:40 pm

NickSCFC wrote:The issue is more to do with the overall price of entry, a VR gaming PC + Rift is far too out of reach to go mainstream.

PlayStation VR and Gear VR are the only ones that have a chance at being a mainstream success, you can quote me on that.

TheTurnipKing wrote:Interesting thing in the "are you ready for oculus" thing, is that it seems that what matters is apparently single core performance, not the number of cores you have.


Crap like this proves this will never go mainstream.

Don't think of it as something you bolt onto your PC. Think of it as it's own platform. Not for nothing are vendors intending to supply the whole shebang.

This certainly seems to be how Occulus are approaching it.

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PostRe: Oculus Rift - out 28th March (£499)
by NickSCFC » Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:47 pm

Expensive + Confusing = Failure

Most people are put off by PC gaming because of compatibility issues. The mainstream won't fork out if they're unsure whether games they buy will work, it only takes a couple of frame drops in VR to make you sick.

That's why PSVR will succeed where this fails, it's simple plug and play and because every PS4 is the same customers can rest assured that every game will run well.

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PostRe: Oculus Rift - out 28th March (£499)
by Gently-Parted Ringpiece » Thu Jan 07, 2016 6:38 pm

Nobody is buying a PC for this. People who already have one merely have to upgrade if they want.

PSVR is currently a moot point because you cant buy it.

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PostRe: Oculus Rift - out 28th March (£499)
by Karl » Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:40 pm

I'm glad that the £500 Oculus Rift for £1000 computers is here. It means in five years I'll be playing Half-Life 3 on a £199 VR kit and a £499 PC. :toot:

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PostRe: Oculus Rift - out 28th March (£499)
by Xeno » Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:51 pm

NickSCFC wrote:Expensive + Confusing = Failure

Most people are put off by PC gaming because of compatibility issues. The mainstream won't fork out if they're unsure whether games they buy will work, it only takes a couple of frame drops in VR to make you sick.

That's why PSVR will succeed where this fails, it's simple plug and play and because every PS4 is the same customers can rest assured that every game will run well.


Talk about pulling gooseberry fool out of your arse.

I would say that the GearVR has more of a chance than the PSVR does to making VR mainstream.

If you want the best VR experience you will have to go for the PC compatible versions.

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by Peter Crisp » Thu Jan 07, 2016 9:50 pm

Karl wrote:I'm glad that the £500 Oculus Rift for £1000 computers is here. It means in five years I'll be playing Half-Life 3 on a £199 VR kit and a £499 PC. :toot:


The only way you'll be playing half life 3 in 5 years is if you invent a machine that can let you travel to alternate realities where they decided to bloody make it.
Why they haven't made it is beyond me as it will print money on pc and they can port it to all consoles for the next 20 years with ports and remasters and make even more cash.

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PostRe: Oculus Rift - out 28th March (£499)
by Lagamorph » Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:00 pm

Peter Crisp wrote:
Karl wrote:I'm glad that the £500 Oculus Rift for £1000 computers is here. It means in five years I'll be playing Half-Life 3 on a £199 VR kit and a £499 PC. :toot:


The only way you'll be playing half life 3 in 5 years is if you invent a machine that can let you travel to alternate realities where they decided to bloody make it.
Why they haven't made it is beyond me as it will print money on pc and they can port it to all consoles for the next 20 years with ports and remasters and make even more cash.

It would require some actual effort on Valve's part.

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PostRe: Oculus Rift - out 28th March (£499)
by Peter Crisp » Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:08 pm

Lagamorph wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:
Karl wrote:I'm glad that the £500 Oculus Rift for £1000 computers is here. It means in five years I'll be playing Half-Life 3 on a £199 VR kit and a £499 PC. :toot:


The only way you'll be playing half life 3 in 5 years is if you invent a machine that can let you travel to alternate realities where they decided to bloody make it.
Why they haven't made it is beyond me as it will print money on pc and they can port it to all consoles for the next 20 years with ports and remasters and make even more cash.

It would require some actual effort on Valve's part.


I bet they could get some mod team to make it for them for £50 and 5% of the profits.

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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by Gently-Parted Ringpiece » Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:20 pm


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PostRe: Oculus Rift - out 28th March (£499)
by BID0 » Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:47 pm

Nick doesn't half talk some gooseberry fool sometimes :lol:

PC is the biggest gaming market. If VR is going to take off anywhere then it's going to be on PC.

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PostRe: Oculus Rift - out 28th March (£499)
by Peter Crisp » Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:10 am

As much as I'd love to say Sony will win the VR sales war as I'm pretty sure I'm getting it I have to agree the PC versions will most likely sell more in the next 4 years.

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.

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