SPOT ON Jaffe...SPOT ON

PostSPOT ON Jaffe...SPOT ON by **cooldawn** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:33 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9rtEfKO8Xw

Tried to embed...didn't work.

Anyway...CLAP, CLAP, CLAP. This guy is right on the money. Gamers prefer glossy trimmings than core gameplay. It's sad but thank god we still have some developers who concentrate on what matters.

PostRe: SPOT ON Jaffe...SPOT ON by **Garth** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:47 pm

I think Jaffe always comes across as a bit of a twat.

PostRe: SPOT ON Jaffe...SPOT ON by **Christopher** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:48 pm

Garth wrote:Is it just me or does Jaffe always comes across as a bit of a twat?

Neither of you come across that way

PostRe: SPOT ON Jaffe...SPOT ON by **Dalagonash** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:52 pm

Realized this ages ago, but fun to hear a designer saying it.

I used to be able to play Wolfenstein multiplayer again and again just for lols, but now there is an expectation to have some form of meta game or unlock system.

Gamers :wub:

levelling and loot.

PostRe: SPOT ON Jaffe...SPOT ON by **SEP** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:55 pm

Dalagonash wrote:Realized this ages ago, but fun to hear a designer saying it.

I used to be able to play Wolfenstein multiplayer again and again just for lols, but now there is an expectation to have some form of meta game or unlock system.

Gamers levelling and loot.

Gamers love having a bigger number than other gamers. That's a fact as old as gaming itself.

PostRe: SPOT ON Jaffe...SPOT ON by **Jax** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:04 pm

That was a bit of a Captain Obvious moment there, Jaffe is of course right...years after everyone else thought about it.

Also, he does usually make a complete ballsack of himself.

PostRe: SPOT ON Jaffe...SPOT ON by **TheTurnipKing** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:23 pm

It's the numbers. Giving achivements numbers is, I think, the single worst thing that Microsoft ever brought to gaming.

PostRe: SPOT ON Jaffe...SPOT ON by **SEP** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:27 pm

TheTurnipKing wrote:It's the numbers. Giving achivements numbers is, I think, the single worst thing that Microsoft ever brought to gaming.

Personalli, I blame Midway. The invented the High Score back in 1976.

PostRe: SPOT ON Jaffe...SPOT ON by **TheTurnipKing** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:29 pm

Somebody Else's Problem wrote:
TheTurnipKing wrote:It's the numbers. Giving achivements numbers is, I think, the single worst thing that Microsoft ever brought to gaming.

Personalli, I blame Midway. The invented the High Score back in 1976.

At least those were part of The Game, as opposed to The Game Of Buying More Games.

PostRe: SPOT ON Jaffe...SPOT ON by **shas'la** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:36 pm

This is one of my main problems with MW2, the drip drip drip, of feeding you tiny rewards and new items, really distracts from the (somewhat average IMO) rest of the multiplayer, which should be showcased.

Something Fishy

I expected him to be older.

He makes some interesting points there for sure.

Found Avatar boring too eh.

I like that guy.

PostRe: SPOT ON Jaffe...SPOT ON by **SEP** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:51 pm

TheTurnipKing wrote:
Somebody Else's Problem wrote:
TheTurnipKing wrote:It's the numbers. Giving achivements numbers is, I think, the single worst thing that Microsoft ever brought to gaming.

Personalli, I blame Midway. The invented the High Score back in 1976.

At least those were part of The Game, as opposed to The Game Of Buying More Games.

It's a similar sort of game, if you think about it. This was the Game Of Inserting More 10p Coins Into Our Machine.

PostRe: SPOT ON Jaffe...SPOT ON by **TheTurnipKing** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:24 pm

Somebody Else's Problem wrote:
TheTurnipKing wrote:
Somebody Else's Problem wrote:
TheTurnipKing wrote:It's the numbers. Giving achivements numbers is, I think, the single worst thing that Microsoft ever brought to gaming.

Personalli, I blame Midway. The invented the High Score back in 1976.

At least those were part of The Game, as opposed to The Game Of Buying More Games.

It's a similar sort of game, if you think about it. This was the Game Of Inserting More 10p Coins Into Our Machine.

I'd rather be paying 10p than £40.

PostRe: SPOT ON Jaffe...SPOT ON by **Harry Bizzle** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:35 pm

Stats, beyond XP put me to sleep.

For example I like it in COD. Not enough to keep me playing where other games don't but it's nice leveling up, but stuff like Halo's huge number of online stats just bore me for the most part.

PostRe: SPOT ON Jaffe...SPOT ON by **Winckle** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:50 pm

Somebody Else's Problem wrote:
TheTurnipKing wrote:It's the numbers. Giving achivements numbers is, I think, the single worst thing that Microsoft ever brought to gaming.

Personalli, I blame Midway. The invented the High Score back in 1976.

The difference is between having a single stupid number to represent all your gaming stuff and high scores limited to each game.

PostRe: SPOT ON Jaffe...SPOT ON by **Tineash** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:16 pm

So just ignore gamerscores. Never look at them, never think about them, just leave it to the hardcore nutters to ratchet theirs up with rented kids games and licenced pap. Who cares?

PostRe: SPOT ON Jaffe...SPOT ON by **Winckle** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:18 pm

Tineash wrote:So just ignore gamerscores. Never look at them, never think about them, just leave it to the hardcore nutters to ratchet theirs up with rented kids games and licenced pap. Who cares?

Because a meta system like gamerscore ends up affected (read 'dumbing down') games to give out easy achievements to get more sales.

PostRe: SPOT ON Jaffe...SPOT ON by **TheTurnipKing** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:18 pm

Tineash wrote:So just ignore gamerscores. Never look at them, never think about them, just leave it to the hardcore nutters to ratchet theirs up with rented kids games and licenced pap. Who cares?

David Jaffe, apparently.

PostRe: SPOT ON Jaffe...SPOT ON by **Tineash** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:19 pm

Winckle wrote:
Tineash wrote:So just ignore gamerscores. Never look at them, never think about them, just leave it to the hardcore nutters to ratchet theirs up with rented kids games and licenced pap. Who cares?

Because a meta system like gamerscore ends up affected (read 'dumbing down') games to give out easy achievements to get more sales.

Can you give me an example of a not-shitty game that's done this?

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