The Star Wars Thread - *NO SPOILERS*

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by DarkRula » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:09 pm

And that's why CinemaWins is the better channel for actual criticism. Right..?

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by Kriken » Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:59 pm

Gemini73 wrote:Sounds like the basis of Rotten Tomatoes whole review process which would explain why they hate everything.


For a start, Rotten Tomatoes aren't reviewers. They just pull together print and online reviews and show the percentage of which reviews were positive. They throw in a couple of lines themselves but only to describe the critical consensus.

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by Gemini73 » Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:42 pm

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Gemini73 wrote:Sounds like the basis of Rotten Tomatoes whole review process which would explain why they hate everything.


For a start, Rotten Tomatoes aren't reviewers. They just pull together print and online reviews and show the percentage of which reviews were positive. They throw in a couple of lines themselves but only to describe the critical consensus.


Is that so? Interesting. I've looked at some of the scores for films on RT and my jaw has literally hit the floor on more than one occasion.

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PostRe: The Star Wars Thread - *NO SPOILERS*
by Ad7 » Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:34 pm

Literally hit the floor? We're you in gecko's bed or something

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by mcjihge2 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:11 pm

I think it would be really cool if the Solo movie ends with Chewie telling Han about a job transporting a couple of passengers on Tatooine.

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by Gemini73 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:31 pm

Ad7 wrote:Literally hit the floor? We're you in gecko's bed or something


Oh crap, I did the literally thing didn't I? :oops:

Im blaming yesterdays hang over.

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by Alvin Flummux » Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:49 am

mcjihge2 wrote:I think it would be really cool if the Solo movie ends with Chewie telling Han about a job transporting a couple of passengers on Tatooine.


Maybe Chewie gets a comm signal, the encryption code for which dates back to the days of the Clone Wars, so he tells Han to divert to Tattooine, despite the bounty on Hans head.

Sadly, it's not gonna go down like that. This film is set a good few years, maybe a decade or so, before ANH.

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by Poser » Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:41 am

mcjihge2 wrote:I think it would be really cool if the Solo movie ends with Chewie telling Han about a job transporting a couple of passengers on Tatooine.


My impression was always that Kenobi just rustled Han and Chewie up at Mos Eisley and that they didn't know anything about it in advance.

But... in keeping with the way Rogue One ended, it would be very cool if the film ended up with them at least heading to Tattoine. I like the idea that all the spin-off films might work in that way. I'm sure lots of people would disagree.

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by DarkRula » Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:45 am

There's no connection between the two events. As has been said, the film is set way before Han is the best smuggler around. Maybe he does get sent to Tatooine to see Jabba, as the people he's working with say Jabba's looking for people, but it definitely won't directly connect the way Rogue One did.
Beside, if rumours are true there's still another two films after this one is released about Solo.

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by OrangeRakoon » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:06 am

I don't particularly want any nods to the other films, I'd rather the film just stood alone on its own merit. I don't need to feel privy to an in-joke or reference to a different movie I've seen in order to enjoy the film - and if I do, that's not a great indication of the film's quality.

Also Rogue One's ending tying directly into the start of ANH didn't really make sense unless you accept something happening between the two.

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by Alvin Flummux » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:18 am

OrangeRakoon wrote:Also Rogue One's ending tying directly into the start of ANH didn't really make sense unless you accept something happening between the two.


What? :lol: Nothing happened between the end of R1 and the start of ANH - the films are set minutes apart.

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by Tafdolphin » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:21 am

Alvin Flummux wrote:
OrangeRakoon wrote:Also Rogue One's ending tying directly into the start of ANH didn't really make sense unless you accept something happening between the two.


What? :lol: Nothing happened between the end of R1 and the start of ANH - the films are set minutes apart.


He's perhaps talking about the odd inconsistency in the way the Death Star data made its way to Leia: in ANH it's specifically said the plans were broadcast to her ship. In R1 they're physically taken aboard on a disc.

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by Alvin Flummux » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:23 am

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OrangeRakoon wrote:Also Rogue One's ending tying directly into the start of ANH didn't really make sense unless you accept something happening between the two.


What? :lol: Nothing happened between the end of R1 and the start of ANH - the films are set minutes apart.


He's perhaps talking about the odd inconsistency in the way the Death Star data made its way to Leia: in ANH it's specifically said the plans were broadcast to her ship. In R1 they're physically taken aboard on a disc.


Perhaps, in the confusion of the Battle of Scarif, that particular detail got mixed up? It happens.

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by OrangeRakoon » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:23 am

Alvin Flummux wrote:
OrangeRakoon wrote:Also Rogue One's ending tying directly into the start of ANH didn't really make sense unless you accept something happening between the two.


What? :lol: Nothing happened between the end of R1 and the start of ANH - the films are set minutes apart.


> Imperials in direct pursuit of a rebel ship that is fleeing from a huge battle where they blatantly and openly stole plans for the death star
> On boarding Leia tries to claim they are on a diplomatic mission

That's one hell of a poor excuse

My head canon is that they hyperspace away so that when the imperials catch up they can at least try to plausibly deny involvement

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by Return_of_the_STAR » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:29 am

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Alvin Flummux wrote:
OrangeRakoon wrote:Also Rogue One's ending tying directly into the start of ANH didn't really make sense unless you accept something happening between the two.


What? :lol: Nothing happened between the end of R1 and the start of ANH - the films are set minutes apart.


> Imperials in direct pursuit of a rebel ship that is fleeing from a huge battle where they blatantly and openly stole plans for the death star
> On boarding Leia tries to claim they are on a diplomatic mission

That's one hell of a poor excuse

My head canon is that they hyperspace away so that when the imperials catch up they can at least try to plausibly deny involvement


My thinking has always been that we don't know how much time took place between the end of rogue one and the start of A New Hope. As Orange says the Tantive IV jumped to hyper space. It could only have been a few minutes before they were caught by Vader but it could also have been hours, days or weeks i supposed. I assume Leia claiming that they were on a diplomatic mission was probably because she was on board and is a princess and attempting to deny any involvement in any conflict. She's doesn't know that Vader knew she was at Scarif for example.

But for me it doesn't matter. I'm not really fussed how long a gap there was between the ending of a rogue one and the start of a new hope. It was i assume a very small amount of time as Leia was still in possession of the death start plans and hadn't sent them elsewhere yet.

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PostRe: The Star Wars Thread - *NO SPOILERS*
by Alvin Flummux » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:33 am

OrangeRakoon wrote:
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OrangeRakoon wrote:Also Rogue One's ending tying directly into the start of ANH didn't really make sense unless you accept something happening between the two.


What? :lol: Nothing happened between the end of R1 and the start of ANH - the films are set minutes apart.


> Imperials in direct pursuit of a rebel ship that is fleeing from a huge battle where they blatantly and openly stole plans for the death star
> On boarding Leia tries to claim they are on a diplomatic mission

That's one hell of a poor excuse

My head canon is that they hyperspace away so that when the imperials catch up they can at least try to plausibly deny involvement


Every excuse is a poor excuse when Vader is after you. Just remember that in order to get to that excuse, there was first a big firefight in space and aboard the Tantive IV. What kind of diplomatic mission fires on an Imperial Star Destroyer, or mows down a wave of Stormtroopers? :lol: Everyone on that ship knew they'd reached the end of the line when those Stormtroopers boarded.

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by OrangeRakoon » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:41 am

It was self defence m8

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by Alvin Flummux » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:50 am

It was a running battle, a continuation of what went down at Scarif.

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by Return_of_the_STAR » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:57 am

Alvin Flummux wrote:It was a running battle, a continuation of what went down at Scarif.


I've always thought that her diplomatic excuse was that she turned up at Scarif because she heard a big commotion and thought, 'what the hell is going on' So she went to one of the rebel ships and was like 'guys just chill, what you attacking the imperial fleet for?' they then said 'Us? it's self defence but we are strawberry floated, take this' and threw them some shiny disc. Leia thought strawberry float this i can't mediate here and left quickly hoping that no one saw her. Sometime shortly after Leia realised that she had become an accessory to theft and knew that her only hope was to try to hide behind diplomatic immunity.

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PostRe: The Star Wars Thread - *NO SPOILERS*
by Poser » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:11 pm

That thing when a single different word used in films made 40 years apart somehow takes the shine off it for you.

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