The Star Wars Thread - *NO SPOILERS* new trailer p193

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by BID0 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:30 pm

The Watching Artist wrote:
Parksey wrote:snip

Pretty much agree with this (apart from a few little things) and why I can understand the opinion of the great Bido.

Parksey put it in to words, and I totally agree.

TFA basically wasted the entire 90 minutes it had. It didn't do anything with them to develop the Star Wars storyline and it also wasted characters and their deaths. 30 in-movie years had passed since the instalment before it and it wasn't really explained how the people or the climate were where they were in that movie. I didn't care about any of the characters (new or old) at all.

I don't really like saying that as there are still two more films to go, but a film really should stand on its own and tell and complete a story of some sort, even if it's part of something bigger.

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by Skippy » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:16 pm

Calling TFA a waste is unfair given the three excellent characters it set up to carry the rest of the trilogy. Establishing those characters, who have all the potential to match classic Star Wars characters before them, was the film's greatest and most important achievement. In terms of plot you're absolutely right, it didn't do much new, but given its position as a soft reboot for a new generation I'm okay with that because the new characters it introduced were so good. It's up to The Last Jedi to put that to use with a story that does new and interesting things.

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by The Watching Artist » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:38 pm

BID0 wrote:
The Watching Artist wrote:
Parksey wrote:snip

Pretty much agree with this (apart from a few little things) and why I can understand the opinion of the great Bido.

Parksey put it in to words, and I totally agree.

TFA basically wasted the entire 90 minutes it had. It didn't do anything with them to develop the Star Wars storyline and it also wasted characters and their deaths. 30 in-movie years had passed since the instalment before it and it wasn't really explained how the people or the climate were where they were in that movie. I didn't care about any of the characters (new or old) at all.

I don't really like saying that as there are still two more films to go, but a film really should stand on its own and tell and complete a story of some sort, even if it's part of something bigger.

My biggest fear for TFA was that it would try so hard to be STAR WARS, just as you remember it, that it wouldn't be something new. As I saw the poster and the trailer that began to increase. Then I saw the opening crawl and the term "resistance" and it pretty much confirmed my fears. It was a blatant way of making it more like the good old days.
Skippy wrote:the three excellent characters it set up to carry the rest of the trilogy............... but given its position as a soft reboot for a new generation.

Personally apart from Kylo I wouldn't call any of the new characters excellent. I think Rey has potential but some of the things it does with her are clumsy. She is too damn awesome all the time (which weakens the drama of the conclusion) and I think making such a big deal about her parents will be a mistake. Finn was a waste IMO. Pushed far too hard to be the funny one. But how much more interesting would he have been if he really had felt like an ex stormtrooper? Someone with blood on his hands? Someone who you see actually turn from a baddie to a goodie? Oh but no. He has to be likeable. We have to like him. But you know what? In ANH I didn't like Han. Han was a jerk. A dick. A selfish prick who will gun people down in a bar if he has to. Someone who thought he'd have a chance with a princess despite being a total twat. But thats exactly why he was an engaging character and it made his growth all the more fantastic. Now Ace Rimmer was awesome. He was really AWESOME. Awesome to the max. But hardly in it enough to judge him as an all round character.

I also don't really understand why Star Wars had to have a "soft reboot". Are the other films really so hard to find and watch? Have they been lost in time? Destroyed by people who thought they had no value anymore? TPM wasn't one despite the hiatus being even longer. Sure, newbies need to be taught what the force is etc. But did they need a reenactment of ANH? Did they need the Empire and the Rebellion in all but name fighting again?

Anyway. I've said all that before I think. But back to the vid. Hamill gets cut off about the idea he liked but this might be it....



At first I :slol: but then I thought about it and a weaponised cloned Sith Luke sounds all kinds of awesome to me.

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by BID0 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:04 pm

The worst thing they can do in my opinion is what I call "muppet babies" where all these new characters end up being baby versions of all of the original cast.

For example if the offspring of Lando turned up to help baby chewbacca the second. And I really hope Rey isn't linked in that way.

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by Alvin Flummux » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:18 pm

Rey is Admiral Ackbar's long lost love child, born of a passionate fling he had with Mon Mothma just after the Battle of Endor.

Jupiter is in your sun sign this week, making it pretty crowded in there, what with Jupiter being the largest of the planets and all.
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by Hexx » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:32 pm

Jar Jar's final fate is revealed in the new canon novel

Banished and hated by his people, living life a street performer/clown/begger

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by Alvin Flummux » Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:28 pm

Hexx wrote:Jar Jar's final fate is revealed in the new canon novel

Banished and hated by his people, living life a street performer/clown/begger


Which novel is that, then? One of the Aftermath trilogy?

Jupiter is in your sun sign this week, making it pretty crowded in there, what with Jupiter being the largest of the planets and all.
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by Hexx » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:10 am

Yeah last aftermath. sorry I'll find link when back at pc

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by Tomous » Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:02 am

Episode 9 set for May 24th 2019 (may the twenty-forth be with you lolz!)

Thought they'd maintain Christmas releases personally.

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PostThe Star Wars Thread - *NO SPOILERS*
by Parksey » Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:30 am

It has become part of my Christmas tradition now - come back to the UK for the holidays, generally arrive about 6am in London, go and see the new SW film at the cinema with friends, fall asleep about 45 minutes in, go and see it again properly before I return here.

They've ruined Christmas.

Also a quicker turnaround for Episode 9 - did the shoot some stuff back to back? It's got a different director though.

I do wish there was longer between releases in the episodic films. Even the release of the prequels felt like events, and whereas the yearly releases have already smudged a tiny bit of the excitement away.

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by O Raxmas Tree » Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:58 am

I thought they would keep to the Xmas release schedule too, "own" that release slot for the next few years. But then again it is Star Wars and it doesnt matter when they release, theyll get people to go no matter what.

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by BID0 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:42 am

They'll bump it to December like they always do. They announced the previous ones for May too but moved them.

Disney doesn't want to put Star Wars against Marvel.

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by Tomous » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:42 pm

BID0 wrote:They'll bump it to December like they always do. They announced the previous ones for May too but moved them.

Disney doesn't want to put Star Wars against Marvel.


Yeah, good point. They currently have Infinity War 2 for May 3rd 2019

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by Alvin Flummux » Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:44 pm

If they bump it, they'll be able to do some reshoots and whatnot over the summer. That epic scene at the end of Rogue One was done on a reshoot.

So of course I'm fine with delays, as long as the final product is good.

Jupiter is in your sun sign this week, making it pretty crowded in there, what with Jupiter being the largest of the planets and all.
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by Return_of_the_STAR » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:38 pm

Both episodes 7 and 8 were originally scheduled for summer so I wouldn't take this as gospel. Although it means waiting an extra 6 months I like the idea of the films coming out at Xmas. I saw ep7 on Xmas eve, best Christmas ever!

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by Monkey Man » Tue May 23, 2017 12:31 pm

4 Vanity Fair covers -

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by Skippy » Tue May 23, 2017 3:13 pm

Star Wars costumes are always strawberry floating excellent, that Leia cover is perfect.

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by floydfreak » Tue May 23, 2017 6:13 pm


:slol: :slol: :slol: :slol:

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BobbyDigital wrote:I wanna move out of the UK (to L.A. or somewhere similar in the USA) but don't know how to really.


A plane, Bobby. It's like a big metal bird.
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by 20% » Tue May 23, 2017 6:44 pm

Poe Dameron looks like Jake Johnson from New Girl in a Han Solo costume.

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