STAR WARS: The Force Awakens Thread (All discussion and spoilers in here)

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by mcjihge2 » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:32 pm

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mcjihge2 wrote:Also how much CGI/other actors is Chewie? Peter Meyhew is very low down on the billing, too low to justify the character of Chewbacca..


Mayhew is borderline disabled judging from seeing him in interviews etc. so it's definitely not him playing Chewie the majority of the time, at least not when he's running about. I imagine they put him in the suit for scenes where he's seated and co-piloting the Falcon as more of a ceremonial gesture.


I forgot that I can google,

http://www.slashfilm.com/chewbacca-actor/

29-year old Finnish actor Joonas Suotamo had the honor of stepping into the massive, hairy shoes of Chewbacca alongside Peter Mayhew. The actor who originated the role of Han Solo’s furry companion is 71 years old, and nowadays he gets around with the help of a cane.

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by D_C » Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:13 pm

I still stick with what I said about that flashback scene also being part flash forward. We know force sensitive folk can see the future (Luke seeing what is going to happen on Bespin for example). The only time we see the Knights of Ren is during the 'flashback'. I don't see why they wouldn't feature elsewhere in the film, especially during the attacks at the start, or on Maz's place. As there were no other Knights present, we are led to assume Ren is alone. Rey also sees the winter forest of Starkiller Base, which would only make sense if it was her seeing the future.

I think we'll see the Knights of Ren being formed in the next film, as part of Ren's training in the next film, and the third will be the Resistance attempting to disband them (possibly with Ren turning on them?)

My 2 cents anyway.

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by Herdanos » Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:17 pm

D_C wrote:I think we'll see the Knights of Ren being formed in the next film, as part of Ren's training in the next film


Snoke already referred to them in The Force Awakens, I think.

EDIT: looking at them it would appear they've all got a thing going for Vader. :lol: I mean, am I wrong?

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The second-right guy even looks like he's wearing the mask!

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by D_C » Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:33 pm

Perhaps when Snoke mentions it being time for Kylo Ren to complete his training, he means for him to join the others? Seems odd that the only time we see them all together is that one shot, with no mention of anyone by Kylo from the Resistance side.

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by Errkal » Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:52 pm

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mcjihge2 wrote:I think that the love interest for the next film is definitely Rey/Finn.


Think you mean Finn/Poe m8

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It will be the new love triangle, poe is Gay, Finn is bi and ray wants finn while Finn wants both.

He ends up with poe sending rey to the dark side at the end of 9

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by The Grassy knoll » Thu Jan 07, 2016 9:38 pm

Gandalf wrote:Don't worry, Lucas isn't in charge anymore....


No Jar Jar Abrams is

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by Alvin Flummux » Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:08 am

The Grassy knoll wrote:
Gandalf wrote:Don't worry, Lucas isn't in charge anymore....


No Jar Jar Abrams is


He was only in charge for VII. I think it'll have different directors for each one, like Harry Potter did, which should make for an interesting trilogy.

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by Eighthours » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:40 am

Alvin Flummux wrote:
The Grassy knoll wrote:
Gandalf wrote:Don't worry, Lucas isn't in charge anymore....


No Jar Jar Abrams is


He was only in charge for VII. I think it'll have different directors for each one, like Harry Potter did, which should make for an interesting trilogy.


He's in overall charge of the trilogy's story and production, and is executive producing the whole thing. In TV terms, he's the showrunner.

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by Skippy » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:42 am

Eighthours wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:
The Grassy knoll wrote:
Gandalf wrote:Don't worry, Lucas isn't in charge anymore....


No Jar Jar Abrams is


He was only in charge for VII. I think it'll have different directors for each one, like Harry Potter did, which should make for an interesting trilogy.


He's in overall charge of the trilogy's story and production, and is executive producing the whole thing. In TV terms, he's the showrunner.


Not really, that's Kathleen Kennedy. Abrams will continue to have a producer credit but that doesn't mean he'll necessarily be directly involved in creative. Things will probably be run past him but the major decisions will be Kennedy's

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by captain red dog » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:37 am

I don't really want Abrams running the story from here on out. He usually forgets to write an ending!

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by Skippy » Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:02 am

captain red dog wrote:I don't really want Abrams running the story from here on out. He usually forgets to write an ending!


You're thinking of Damon Lindelof, who was showrunner/lead writer on Lost and wrote Star Trek Into Darkness.

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by BTB » Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:07 am

Saw it for the 2nd time last night. Noticed a few more things now knowing how the film unrolls.

My main questions was how is the planet, when draining the sun of all its energy, still covered in snow??

Also the best line is "THAAAT BEEELOOONGS TOO MEEEEE!!" :lol:

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by Hypes » Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:24 am

BTB wrote:My main questions was how is the planet, when draining the sun of all its energy, still covered in snow??


Or how everything hasn't just been obliterated.
Best not to think about that bit.

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by Errkal » Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:26 am

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BTB wrote:My main questions was how is the planet, when draining the sun of all its energy, still covered in snow??


Or how everything hasn't just been obliterated.
Best not to think about that bit.


Or where they keep getting suns from, can the planet move like a ship to different suns to suck in or did they have 2 near it to start with and so it is now out of suns.

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by Herdanos » Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:34 am

Or how someone is able to stop someone else from moving, or explore another person's thoughts, through their own telekinetic abilities.

Or how a sword made of 'light' is capable of causing extreme damage.

Or how on a remote, seemingly impoverished desert planet, even scavengers have access to impressive vehicles, technology, and robotic assistants.

Or how the entire universe have massive spaceships lying about capable of interstellar transport, despite seemingly having zero means to manufacture and build such things. Where are the manufacturing planets? Where do they get all their steel?

Or how a human is capable of understanding wookiee, and a wookiee is capable of understanding human, despite their being apparently no options available for translation or interpretation.

Or how an antagonist organisation can somehow develop the means to destroy several planets and do so without going unchecked or stopped by a galactic republic whose mandate is to protect and regulate the entire universe.

It's all just best not to ask too many questions and remember this all happened a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. The same rules don't necessarily apply.

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by Gandalf » Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:36 am

Errkal wrote:
Hyperion wrote:
BTB wrote:My main questions was how is the planet, when draining the sun of all its energy, still covered in snow??


Or how everything hasn't just been obliterated.
Best not to think about that bit.


Or where they keep getting suns from, can the planet move like a ship to different suns to suck in or did they have 2 near it to start with and so it is now out of suns.


What's the issue with a planet having two suns? Tatooine has two. Anyway point in debating this anymore because StarKiller is now in a gazillion chunks!!!!

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by captain red dog » Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:49 am

Skippy wrote:
captain red dog wrote:I don't really want Abrams running the story from here on out. He usually forgets to write an ending!


You're thinking of Damon Lindelof, who was showrunner/lead writer on Lost and wrote Star Trek Into Darkness.

He tends to keep a lot of creative input though doesn't he. He was supposed to have outlined the plot to Lost from the start, created Fringe and was the brains behind Cloverfield and to be honest they all had passable endings at best.

Same goes for the Star Trek reboot, the ending was guff.

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by Alvin Flummux » Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:02 pm

BTB wrote:My main questions was how is the planet, when draining the sun of all its energy, still covered in snow??


I like to think that it's actually mostly white ash, from all the test firings they'd have been doing.

351 Dan.s until Christmas! wrote:Or how the entire universe have massive spaceships lying about capable of interstellar transport, despite seemingly having zero means to manufacture and build such things. Where are the manufacturing planets? Where do they get all their steel?


The industrial hearts of the galaxy has never to my mind been explored in any detail whatsoever. We got a bit of an idea of the kinds of galactic corporations which were producing some things in episodes 1-3, and know that companies like Sienar Fleet Systems (also mentioned in the Clone Wars TV show) were producing ships for the Empire in episodes 4-6. but beyond that, we've never actually seen the galaxy's vast shipyards and industrial centers. It'd be cool if the story took us there.

351 Dan.s until Christmas! wrote:Or how a human is capable of understanding wookiee, and a wookiee is capable of understanding human, despite their being apparently no options available for translation or interpretation.


Han presumably picked up a lot on his travels. He may at one point have possessed a book on Wookiee language, too, but he probably didn't read it.

351 Dan.s until Christmas! wrote:Or how an antagonist organisation can somehow develop the means to destroy several planets and do so without going unchecked or stopped by a galactic republic whose mandate is to protect and regulate the entire universe.


From what I understand, the First Order has grown and developed unchecked because it is not based in known space. Its territories lie in the Unknown Regions, the almost entirely unexplored half of the galaxy. There, it has been building a power base, building a new fleet, charting new hyperlanes, and striking out into the known galaxy on secret kidnapping raids to grow its armies. Nobody noticed them because nobody knew they were there until a few small skirmishes with outlying Republic forces began the spread of rumours. Leia saw the threat, understood its seriousness and tried to warn the Republic, but was shouted down as a warmonger, so she quit the Senate and formed the Resistance - hence the lack of capital ships of any sort.

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PostRe: STAR WARS: The Force Awakens Thread (All discussion and spoilers in here)
by Errkal » Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:09 pm

Gandalf wrote:
Errkal wrote:
Hyperion wrote:
BTB wrote:My main questions was how is the planet, when draining the sun of all its energy, still covered in snow??


Or how everything hasn't just been obliterated.
Best not to think about that bit.


Or where they keep getting suns from, can the planet move like a ship to different suns to suck in or did they have 2 near it to start with and so it is now out of suns.


What's the issue with a planet having two suns? Tatooine has two. Anyway point in debating this anymore because StarKiller is now in a gazillion chunks!!!!


Two would have been fine, the thing was if it couldn't move it was a pretty pointless limited use weapon.

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PostRe: STAR WARS: The Force Awakens Thread (All discussion and spoilers in here)
by Hypes » Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:19 pm

Errkal wrote:
Gandalf wrote:
Errkal wrote:
Hyperion wrote:
BTB wrote:My main questions was how is the planet, when draining the sun of all its energy, still covered in snow??


Or how everything hasn't just been obliterated.
Best not to think about that bit.


Or where they keep getting suns from, can the planet move like a ship to different suns to suck in or did they have 2 near it to start with and so it is now out of suns.


What's the issue with a planet having two suns? Tatooine has two. Anyway point in debating this anymore because StarKiller is now in a gazillion chunks!!!!


Two would have been fine, the thing was if it couldn't move it was a pretty pointless limited use weapon.


Not if it's point was to wipe out the base planets of the New Republic.


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