^|SPOILERS!|^ SW: The Last Jedi Discussion thread - ^|SPOILERS!|^

Fed up talking videogames? Why?
User avatar
Preezy
Skeletor
Joined in 2009

PostRe: ^|SPOILERS!|^ SW: The Last Jedi Discussion thread - ^|SPOILERS!|^
by Preezy » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:40 am

And another thing, Rey is too much of a (and I hate this term) Mary Sue.

Ace pilot despite no spaceship training
Superb fighter despite no combat training
Strong with the force despite no force training

We also never see her go for a poo or reapply her makeup, but low and behold she never looks bloated or in need of a touch up.

User avatar
Ad7
Member
Joined in 2009

PostRe: ^|SPOILERS!|^ SW: The Last Jedi Discussion thread - ^|SPOILERS!|^
by Ad7 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:56 am

As much as I didn't enjoy TLJ, at no point was I sitting there wishing Rey would go for a gooseberry fool.

User avatar
Tafdolphin
Member
Member
Joined in 2008

PostRe: ^|SPOILERS!|^ SW: The Last Jedi Discussion thread - ^|SPOILERS!|^
by Tafdolphin » Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:54 am

Preezy wrote:And another thing, Rey is too much of a (and I hate this term) Mary Sue.

Ace pilot despite no spaceship training
Superb fighter despite no combat training
Strong with the force despite no force training

We also never see her go for a poo or reapply her makeup, but low and behold she never looks bloated or in need of a touch up.


This was much more an issue in TFA. In TLJ I think they deconstructed it, or at least toned it down, with having her jump into situations expecting them to go her way but having them constantly going wrong (Luke not returning, Ren not turning etc). She's obviously skilled in the Force here but that too is explained somewhat.

I will say I think she was miscast though. Daisy Ridley is a good actor and all but she is far, far too attractive for the abandoned daughter of two junkie space duds.

Gemini73 wrote:Yes your are a sanctimonious twat

Bloggy blog blog blog.

Night Call: a game what I worked on
User avatar
Return_of_the_STAR
Member
Joined in 2008
Location: Northampton

PostRe: ^|SPOILERS!|^ SW: The Last Jedi Discussion thread - ^|SPOILERS!|^
by Return_of_the_STAR » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:07 am

Ad7 wrote:As much as I didn't enjoy TLJ, at no point was I sitting there wishing Rey would go for a gooseberry fool.


She clearly went off screen and just left it on the floor. Explains why those cleaning aliens were so pissed off all the time.

What I dislike about the Star Wars films is that every single one leaves opens hundreds if not thousands of questions, leading to arguments. They the seem to write a novelisation based on all the plot holes that people have discussed with an attempt to stop the questioning but I just see that as a rush job. In my opinion they hadn’t considered the answers to most of the questions before the films release and only attempt to fix them afterwards. Thus i don’t often care for the explanations as they are just an afterthought. Sometimes not very well thought through.

Image

GRAPL Heavyweight Champion 2010, Runner Up 2017, tag team Champion 2011, 2015, Wrestlemania PPV Winner 2012 and your current all time highest GRAPL points scorer.
Fixture feeling champion 2013.

I'm a Paul Heyman guy!
User avatar
Moggy
"Special"
Joined in 2008

PostRe: ^|SPOILERS!|^ SW: The Last Jedi Discussion thread - ^|SPOILERS!|^
by Moggy » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:10 am

Preezy wrote:And another thing, Rey is too much of a (and I hate this term) Mary Sue.

Ace pilot despite no spaceship training
Superb fighter despite no combat training
Strong with the force despite no force training

We also never see her go for a poo or reapply her makeup, but low and behold she never looks bloated or in need of a touch up.


All of that goes for Luke Skywalker as well.

User avatar
Preezy
Skeletor
Joined in 2009

PostRe: ^|SPOILERS!|^ SW: The Last Jedi Discussion thread - ^|SPOILERS!|^
by Preezy » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:15 am

Moggy wrote:
Preezy wrote:And another thing, Rey is too much of a (and I hate this term) Mary Sue.

Ace pilot despite no spaceship training
Superb fighter despite no combat training
Strong with the force despite no force training

We also never see her go for a poo or reapply her makeup, but low and behold she never looks bloated or in need of a touch up.


All of that goes for Luke Skywalker as well.

1. Luke doesn't wear makeup.
2. Luke definitely curled out a poo in ESB when he was hanging from the cloud city's Sky dish.
3. He got his wings on the job in ANH.
4. He learned his saber skills on the job fighting Vader (losing once in ESB, then going all rage on him in Jedi). He also got some training from Obi-Wan in ANH.
5. He definitely learned the ways of the force from Master Yoda.

User avatar
Moggy
"Special"
Joined in 2008

PostRe: ^|SPOILERS!|^ SW: The Last Jedi Discussion thread - ^|SPOILERS!|^
by Moggy » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:19 am

Preezy wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Preezy wrote:And another thing, Rey is too much of a (and I hate this term) Mary Sue.

Ace pilot despite no spaceship training
Superb fighter despite no combat training
Strong with the force despite no force training

We also never see her go for a poo or reapply her makeup, but low and behold she never looks bloated or in need of a touch up.


All of that goes for Luke Skywalker as well.

1. Luke doesn't wear makeup.
2. Luke definitely curled out a poo in ESB when he was hanging from the cloud city's Sky dish.
3. He got his wings on the job in ANH.
4. He learned his saber skills on the job fighting Vader (losing once in ESB, then going all rage on him in Jedi). He also got some training from Obi-Wan in ANH.
5. He definitely learned the ways of the force from Master Yoda.


1. All actors wear makeup
2. Everyone poos
3. So did Rey while escaping that planet
4. Rey got her skills on the job, she was already skilful with the staff thing.
5. Luke was already using the force before meeting Yoda.

User avatar
Preezy
Skeletor
Joined in 2009

PostRe: ^|SPOILERS!|^ SW: The Last Jedi Discussion thread - ^|SPOILERS!|^
by Preezy » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:22 am

1. shut up
2. go away
3. leave me alone
4. i said go away
5. noooooooo

User avatar
Frank
Member
Joined in 2009

PostRe: ^|SPOILERS!|^ SW: The Last Jedi Discussion thread - ^|SPOILERS!|^
by Frank » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:29 am

Luke had flown ships before (him growing up flying the T-16 Skyhopper through Beggar's Canyon would have helped him with the trench run (I'm sure there's a bit with Biggs and/or Wedge where they say it's "just like shooting Womp Rats back home")).

(EDIT: I'm getting two quotes joined up, here - He says to Biggs that it'll be "Just like Beggar's Canyon back home", and then when they're saying that it'd be impossible to hit the exhaust port because it's so small Luke's like "nah m8 2 metres isn't much smaller than a womp rat imma do that just watch me")

Had Rey ever flown anything before? If hotshot ace pilot Poe Dameron gets shot down within minutes of getting in the cockpit it does seem a bit strange that Rey can just jump in, outfly the First Order and then escape the planet.

Last edited by Frank on Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:34 am, edited 2 times in total.
Image
User avatar
Preezy
Skeletor
Joined in 2009

PostRe: ^|SPOILERS!|^ SW: The Last Jedi Discussion thread - ^|SPOILERS!|^
by Preezy » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:33 am

And don't forget her god-like skills at the wheel (does it have a wheel?) of the Millennium Falcon in TFA.

User avatar
Ad7
Member
Joined in 2009

PostRe: ^|SPOILERS!|^ SW: The Last Jedi Discussion thread - ^|SPOILERS!|^
by Ad7 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:37 am

I bet she still couldn't reverse park it though.

User avatar
Alvin Flummux
Member
Joined in 2008
Location: Wilmington, OH, USA
Contact:

PostRe: ^|SPOILERS!|^ SW: The Last Jedi Discussion thread - ^|SPOILERS!|^
by Alvin Flummux » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:37 am

Maybe she just intuitively knows how gooseberry fool works, like Anakin did when he restored/built C-3P0, won a pod race and destroyed a Trade Federation battleship?

Luke might've had some training in Beggar's Canyon and shooting Womp Rats, but he had still never been in the cockpit of an X-Wing starfighter before. But he was still able to use it to great effect at Yavin.

Last edited by Alvin Flummux on Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:39 am, edited 1 time in total.
Fetch me old brown trousers, bring them to me now, I'll wear them in the rigging as they fire across the bow. Fetch me old brown trousers, I fear we may be hit, for even if they shoot me now, they'll never see me... ;)
User avatar
Preezy
Skeletor
Joined in 2009

PostRe: ^|SPOILERS!|^ SW: The Last Jedi Discussion thread - ^|SPOILERS!|^
by Preezy » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:38 am

I'll try spinning, that's a good trick!

:dread: :dread:

User avatar
Alvin Flummux
Member
Joined in 2008
Location: Wilmington, OH, USA
Contact:

PostRe: ^|SPOILERS!|^ SW: The Last Jedi Discussion thread - ^|SPOILERS!|^
by Alvin Flummux » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:41 am

Also, remember that Rey spent a lot of time on Jakku tinkering with and disassembling spaceships, and she rode her own speeder everywhere. She has to have picked up some knowledge there.

Fetch me old brown trousers, bring them to me now, I'll wear them in the rigging as they fire across the bow. Fetch me old brown trousers, I fear we may be hit, for even if they shoot me now, they'll never see me... ;)
User avatar
Ad7
Member
Joined in 2009

PostRe: ^|SPOILERS!|^ SW: The Last Jedi Discussion thread - ^|SPOILERS!|^
by Ad7 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:41 am

Eagle one, fox two!

User avatar
Frank
Member
Joined in 2009

PostRe: ^|SPOILERS!|^ SW: The Last Jedi Discussion thread - ^|SPOILERS!|^
by Frank » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:41 am

So what we're saying is that Rey is basically as bad as baby Anakin Skywalker.

Image
User avatar
Alvin Flummux
Member
Joined in 2008
Location: Wilmington, OH, USA
Contact:

PostRe: ^|SPOILERS!|^ SW: The Last Jedi Discussion thread - ^|SPOILERS!|^
by Alvin Flummux » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:43 am

Frank wrote:So what we're saying is that Rey is basically as bad as baby Anakin Skywalker.


I'm saying that all three trilogies see people with no prior experience of dog-fighting pull off amazing achievements in that field.

It's all linked.

Fetch me old brown trousers, bring them to me now, I'll wear them in the rigging as they fire across the bow. Fetch me old brown trousers, I fear we may be hit, for even if they shoot me now, they'll never see me... ;)
User avatar
Frank
Member
Joined in 2009

PostRe: ^|SPOILERS!|^ SW: The Last Jedi Discussion thread - ^|SPOILERS!|^
by Frank » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:45 am

Alvin Flummux wrote:It's all linked.


Rey really is a Skywalker.

Image
User avatar
Preezy
Skeletor
Joined in 2009

PostRe: ^|SPOILERS!|^ SW: The Last Jedi Discussion thread - ^|SPOILERS!|^
by Preezy » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:54 am

Ad7 wrote:Eagle one, fox two!

I understood that reference.

Independence Day, right?

User avatar
Ad7
Member
Joined in 2009

PostRe: ^|SPOILERS!|^ SW: The Last Jedi Discussion thread - ^|SPOILERS!|^
by Ad7 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:57 am

Preezy wrote:
Ad7 wrote:Eagle one, fox two!

I understood that reference.

Independence Day, right?


Yes. And another instance of a person who can barely perform a task being given a superior craft to pilot with seemingly no problems (He goes from a simple crop spray plane to an F18). Nobody picks that to bits though.


Return to “Stuff”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Blue Eyes, Dowbocop, Errkal, Garth, Google [Bot], Grumpy David, ignition, Johnny Jalfrezi, lex-man, massimo, NickSCFC, Preezy, Rightey, Snowcannon, Ste and 68 guests