State of Decay 2 - PC/Xbox - Daybreak pack out 12th Sep.

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by Tafdolphin » Thu May 17, 2018 9:33 am

Photek wrote:I avoid platform specific sites (Xbox mondo/Windows Central etc) cos they'll always score an exclusive favorably.


On this, we agree. Never understood the point of them.

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by Photek » Thu May 17, 2018 9:34 am

BID0 wrote:This was kind of expected, no?

The first game was exactly the same, it didn't run very well at all with bugs to contend with on top. I got the impression from the first game that it was made by a few guys in their basement and they bit off more than they could chew, as the finished package didn't feel very polished or optmised at all.


I expected more of the same for this, especially as it's not carrying the usual price tag

I didn't expect this, but I do get what you mean by Undead Labs as devs, they seem way too chill and blaze about things, I mean word is MS sent a team over to help bug fixing after seeing the state the game was in (pun intended), I mean unless that last patch was good, it must have been in rag order.

I was wondering why all the preview builds where on PC, the port to Xbox seems to be a shambles (dem puns).

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by NickSCFC » Thu May 17, 2018 9:43 am

Floex wrote:Microsoft, I really hope you’re rebuilding behind closed doors because this is just a sorry state of affairs right now.

I want my early 360 Microsoft back :(


Ditto, they were on fire back then, looking at their early big exclusives, they no longer have the studios...

Halo 3 (Bungie) - Broke their ties after Reach, 343i haven't been up to par
Gears of War (Epic) - Collaboration ended with Judgement, Epic since found massive success with Fortnite
Fable II (Lionhead) - Folded after Molyneux's departure
PGR 3 (Bizarre) - Sold to Activision and folded

Forza 2 (Turn 10) - Thankfully still there, Microsoft need to keep them

Those 4 games ALONE were worth purchasing an Xbox 360 for me.

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by Photek » Thu May 17, 2018 10:03 am

The Eurogamer reviewer reckons the first game only sold well because it looked like DayZ. Clearly not a fan of the game then. :lol:

I'll boot it up at midnight to get tutorial out of the way, ill report any bugs.

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by Hime » Thu May 17, 2018 10:57 am

Listening to the Bombcast and Brad is really enjoying this although he did say that he switched from 1X to PC. He disecribed it as The Sims set in an open world zombie apocalypse.

I'm not sure I agree that smaller reviews are inherently less trust worthy, it wasn't long ago that any positive reviews from a major outlet were criticised for being 'paid for'. Anway, this being on Game Pass will probably save MS from controversy again.

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by KjGarly » Thu May 17, 2018 11:00 am

Obviously learned nothing from the gooseberry fool SoT got, except this is a bug riddled mess. I'll try with Game Pass and I can play it on both my X and PC.

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by Monkey Man » Thu May 17, 2018 11:12 am

Only read the IGN review but seems weird he only played the 1st map. Sounds like more of the 1st game but expanded which I loved. Hopefully yesterdays 6gb patch fixed the worst of the bugs but I doubt it.

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by Tafdolphin » Thu May 17, 2018 11:32 am

Hime wrote:Listening to the Bombcast and Brad is really enjoying this although he did say that he switched from 1X to PC. He disecribed it as The Sims set in an open world zombie apocalypse.

I'm not sure I agree that smaller reviews are inherently less trust worthy, it wasn't long ago that any positive reviews from a major outlet were criticised for being 'paid for'. Anway, this being on Game Pass will probably save MS from controversy again.


Also know as GamerGate. But I get your point. I still disagree however, I believe YouTube reviewers in general still aren't up to the par of the gaming press.

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PostRe: State of Decay 2 - PC/Xbox - XB1X Enhanced - Game pass - 22nd May. Cross play.
by Photek » Thu May 17, 2018 11:41 am

Kotaku review is a decent read - includes a mini diary of events that happened.

https://kotaku.com/state-of-decay-2-the-kotaku-review-1826086560

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by Hime » Thu May 17, 2018 11:50 am

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Hime wrote:Listening to the Bombcast and Brad is really enjoying this although he did say that he switched from 1X to PC. He disecribed it as The Sims set in an open world zombie apocalypse.

I'm not sure I agree that smaller reviews are inherently less trust worthy, it wasn't long ago that any positive reviews from a major outlet were criticised for being 'paid for'. Anway, this being on Game Pass will probably save MS from controversy again.


Also know as GamerGate. But I get your point. I still disagree however, I believe YouTube reviewers in general still aren't up to the par of the gaming press.

I feel like I'm typing on egg shells but I wasn't intentionally referencing gamergate and certainly didn't mean any offence. I was talking more about positive reviews of Rockstar or Activision being dismissed because of ads and what have you.

I'm not suggesting YouTube reviews are more reputable or trustworthy just that there can be a bit of hypocrisy when it's comes to assessing which outlets are valid. I'm sure Photek wouldn't advocate a review with any bias towards a certain publisher though ;)

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by Photek » Thu May 17, 2018 11:56 am

I wouldn't.

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by Tafdolphin » Thu May 17, 2018 11:58 am

You're absolutely correct about those aspect of larger reviews, but I think the 'reviews being paid for' thing is mostly bunkum at this point. There was a fair bit of it back in the day no doubt (Drivergate of course) but most of the large entities seem to be beyond it at this point.

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by Tafdolphin » Thu May 17, 2018 11:59 am

Photek wrote:I wouldn't.


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PostRe: State of Decay 2 - PC/Xbox - XB1X Enhanced - Game pass - 22nd May. Cross play.
by Gemini73 » Thu May 17, 2018 12:19 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:You're absolutely correct about those aspect of larger reviews, but I think the 'reviews being paid for' thing is mostly bunkum at this point. There was a fair bit of it back in the day no doubt (Drivergate of course) but most of the large entities seem to be beyond it at this point.


Don't forget Kane & Lynch 2 and a certain reviewer who lost their job through not towing the corporate line.

In all honesty I can't say I'm fully trusting of most review sites, but more because I don't feel a lot of reviewers are professional enough to reign in their own bias, (and in turn offer up a genuinely impartial view), as opposed to palms being greased. I'm not a fan of SoD, however Eurogamer's review of the sequel came across more like the reviewer just wanted to give something a kicking rather than a fair trial, so to speak.

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by Monkey Man » Thu May 17, 2018 12:20 pm

The good thing about smaller sites like ACG is that as only one person reviews the games so you can learn over time if they line-up with your views.

Unusual that you can choose which of the 3 maps on SOD2 to start on.

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by Photek » Thu May 17, 2018 12:25 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:
Photek wrote:I wouldn't.


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by Photek » Thu May 17, 2018 12:26 pm

Monkey Man wrote:The good thing about smaller sites like ACG is that as only one person reviews the games so you can learn over time if they line-up with your views.

Unusual that you can choose which of the 3 maps on SOD2 to start on.

ACG did a follow up video explaining why he liked it so much.

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by jawafour » Thu May 17, 2018 12:35 pm

I often watch ACG's reviews and, to me, he seems to be very thorough and makes some interesting points. He talks a bit too fast for my taste but I still enjoy his stuff.

It's a shame that this title doesn't - in these early stages - appear to be as good as people wanted it to be. I think there's a little weight in the viewpoint that some folk may have built their expectations up a wee bit too much; in previews it came across as being a slight advance on the first title but not a "must have" exclusive. It could be taking a bit of a kicking from some reviewers in frustration at the current lack of great Microsoft exclusives.

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by Gemini73 » Thu May 17, 2018 3:54 pm

From what I've read of several reviews huge bugs are still common place after a 6gb update. Crikey, this game is a mess. :|

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by Saint of Killers » Thu May 17, 2018 5:00 pm

ACG isn't unknown and while he may not have a code of ethics (I honestly don't know), I'm sure he would be quickly found out and dog-piled on if his reviews were blatantly pandering to publishers.

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