Stringer: Wii isn't 'hurting us'

closer wrote:

DaveDS wrote:

closer wrote:

DaveDS wrote:

Peter Crisp wrote:

TheTurnipKing wrote:No. The general leap in power provided by a new consoles is generally simply a factor of time.

Sony could bung together a machine now with parts from PC parts suppliers that would be a leap over the PS3 if they needed to.

But then it'd just be a big bulky PC. And to be honest not really that much more powerful unless it was a full size tower with a GPU more than the current price of PS3 on it's own. Yeah course it would be more powerful but hardly the supposed 10x leap from ps1-2 and 2-3.

I think next gen should in theory appear like a bigger jump though, that's my opinion anyway. The problem with the current high end consoles is that they're using a good percentage of their extra power to run at HD resolutions (most of the time ). Next gen i assume all games will be 1080p native which again is another jump (roughly 2x) over 720p standard but not quite the numerical jump (3x) 720p was over 480p.

Agree - fact is Sony built a machine they've touted as being all powerful and its costing them **** loads money. Stringer knows they'll never get that money back and, whilst he's big enough to laugh about it, he won't let the same mistake happen second time around I bet. (He wouldn't have let it happen this time around if he'd been brought in earlier.) Fact is it has cost them; last two generations were known by the name 'playstation' - this generation is known by the name 'wii'. That's one hell of a turn around and which ever way you look at it and its costing money in lost sales. Sony's main aim now has to be to keep that brand name well and truly alive ready for the next battle. I reckon that's perfectly achievable. What I don't think they'll do is release hardware that costs them money from day one next time around and is unlikely therefore to be supposedly head and shoulders above the competition. In any case Sony beat out the competition massively with the relatively underpowered ps1 and ps2, (and quite a few lies !), so they should know only too well how to play this game.

PS1 and PS2 certainly weren't underpowered for their time, just because more powerful consoles were released 12-18 months after doesn't change that. They've always aimed for cutting edge and made big losses on hardware sales.

I think Stringers comments about not getting the money back from PS3 is a bit tongue in cheek, they fully expect to start breaking even very soon and they're only 2 and a bit years into a 10 year strategy. People forgot consoles continue to bring in money even after their successors have been released, and I'm sure from the start they've planned the PS3 to follow the same sort of sales as PS2.

Because the PS2 has sold 140m and continues to sell people look at the PS3 figures and believe it's already failed in this goal. I think that's a bit short sighted, according the sales figures the PS3 is very close in sales to where the PS2 was at the same point in it's life cycle. Great games and price drops are inevitable, and will only encourage interest and increase sales.

I think starting off making a loss for the first couple of years is a good long term strategy and the only way we're going to see consoles as powerful as PS3/360 for their time, it proved an extremely successful strategy with PS1, then with PS2, is looking like proving successful with PSP, time will tell if it proves successful with PS3.

In terms of taking note of Nintendo's approach for their next console i can't see it happening. One thing Sony don't have to worry about with PS4 is blu-ray. It will be considerably cheaper to implement, and I'd be surprised if they don't use an evolved version of the Cell. That will automatically be billions of dollars worth of investment required for PS3 not required for PS4.

A lot of stuff in the above I don't disagree with but I'm really not convinced re Stringer being tongue in cheek - he's clearly far too smart for that. Also, just because Sony have always told you that their products are cutting edge doesn't mean they actually are - some are but they trade off the name on others An awful lot of stuff they sell really isn't as good as they make it out to be but hey good luck to them. I still think with Stringer in control, things will change - whether he succeeds or not only tie will tell. As a whole I reckon he will turn the big foundering ship that is Sony around but he'll make ruthless decisions to do so. Don't even be surprised to see that there isn't a ps4 ! He'll do whatever it takes to sort out the bottom line.

$ilva $hadow wrote:Nothing at all? Better than lying to the public? Nintendo seem to speak the least as far as I know, and make the least errors...except recently when they've been trying to address long time Nintendo fans by calling them geeks and otakus.

Alvin Flummux wrote:

$ilva $hadow wrote:Nothing at all? Better than lying to the public? Nintendo seem to speak the least as far as I know, and make the least errors...except recently when they've been trying to address long time Nintendo fans by calling them geeks and otakus.

Current Nintendo "core" fans are geeks and otaku, though.

closer wrote:But then it'd just be a big bulky PC. And to be honest not really that much more powerful unless it was a full size tower with a GPU more than the current price of PS3 on it's own. Yeah course it would be more powerful but hardly the supposed 10x leap from ps1-2 and 2-3.