Super Hi-Vision. 8K TV standard approved by the UN

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by Venom » Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:38 pm

Super Hi-Vision. 8K TV

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The movie theatre at BBC being used to demonstrate Super Hi-Vision

I will remember 26th July 2012. It was the day before the Olympics opening ceremony and I had two tickets to go to BBC TV White City for a very special preview screening of Super Hi-Vision. A series of previews are being organised worldwide by the BBC and Japanese broadcaster NHK. I went into a purpose built mini-cinema with a small army of other enthusiast and watched a series of short preview films including some stunning shots of a space shuttle launch. 22.2 Channel sound. The picture quality was astounding, think the difference between standard def and high def, but cranked up to warp 10. What was notable was that small details could be clearly seen such as what any person was doing in a very large crowd scene. It was also the day that TV and radio presenter Vanessa Phelps smiled at me and said 'hello!' Anyway, I intend to share my experiences about that soon.

A new high-resolution television format has been approved by the UN's communication standards setting agency. Broadcasts in 8K will offer a resolution of 7,680 by 4,320 pixels - roughly the equivalent of a 32 megapixel photo. That is 16 times as sharp as current HD TVs offering about 2MP resolutions. Japanese broadcaster NHK showed off the technology in London during the Olympics, where audiences said it gave them a sense of being at the events. The firm has developed three cameras that can captures the higher resolution - which it calls Super Hi-Vision - at 120 frames per second. By contrast the BBC currently broadcasts HD TV programmes at 25 fps.

"The experience of viewing and listening to live sports and entertainment coverage is dramatically enhanced by Super Hi-Vision, and Ovum envisages it representing the logical next step in TV transmission technology, following on from regular HD," wrote the consultancies' analyst Jonathan Doran in a report.

"In our view, it is a far more significant development than 3D, which offers a limited range of use-cases." There are only currently three Super Hi-Vision cameras in existence. The UN's International Telecommunication Union (ITU) discussed the standard in May and offered broadcasters the opportunity to file objections. Because no-one did, it sent out letters at the end of last week confirming the format's approval. A press release from NHK said the specification would "reproduce the feeling of life and offer a sense of being present" in a way that had been impossible to do before. The news was first reported by Techworld.

NHK has used a 145-inch (3.7 metre) prototype display co-developed with Panasonic to show off its footage. But it will be some time before such models become commercially available. TV makers are currently focusing efforts on launching 4K enabled devices offering half the resolution. This is the format currently used by most digital cinema cameras. LG unveiled the biggest 4K television set to date earlier this week - an 84 inch screen costing more than $22,000. But manufacturers are likely to want to offer 8K screens by 2020 when NHK aims to begin its first experimental broadcasts in the standard.

One analyst said the displays would probably remain beyond most people's budgets for more than a decade. NHK says Super Hi-Vision screens will offer users the opportunity to enjoy wider viewing angles. "I suspect that we won't see this become available to consumers below $10,000 until 2025," Paul O'Donovan, principal analyst at the tech consultancy Gartner, told the BBC.

"Those will be in sizes 55 inches and above. You will still get a benefit at that size because it offers a greater colour depth and contrast as well as a sharper picture."But when the screens are even larger you get a sense of being there - it's like looking through a window. "Beyond better looking TV programmes they will also appeal to photographers. Many people have cameras with lots of megapixels and this gives them a way to see their pictures back at the same resolution they took them in."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19370582

2025? I'm going to start saving now.

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PostRe: Super Hi-Vision. 8K TV standard approved by the UN
by ~Earl Grey~ » Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:55 pm

Yawn.

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PostRe: Super Hi-Vision. 8K TV standard approved by the UN
by TheTurnipKing » Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:56 pm

One word/phrase springs to mind.

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PostRe: Super Hi-Vision. 8K TV standard approved by the UN
by Alvin Flummux » Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:58 pm

That TV is bigger than my apartment. :lol:

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by NickSCFC » Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:08 pm

Ties in with PS4's 4k rumors and LG releasing 4k TVs next month.

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PostRe: Super Hi-Vision. 8K TV standard approved by the UN
by massimo » Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:17 pm

Really wanted to go see this but couldn't find a suitable time. Would love an in depth review.

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by Something Fishy » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:00 pm

Can't see me ever wanting a TV big enough for 4k let alone this but it's nice if that's your thing.

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PostRe: Super Hi-Vision. 8K TV standard approved by the UN
by ~Earl Grey~ » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:03 pm

Why is it the UN's business to approve TV standards? I'd have thought some other body would have that role.

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PostRe: Super Hi-Vision. 8K TV standard approved by the UN
by Lagamorph » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:19 pm

~Earl Grey~ wrote:Why is it the UN's business to approve TV standards? I'd have thought some other body would have that role.

Name another body that has the kind of international ties that the UN has.

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PostRe: Super Hi-Vision. 8K TV standard approved by the UN
by kommissarboris » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:20 pm

Lagamorph wrote:
~Earl Grey~ wrote:Why is it the UN's business to approve TV standards? I'd have thought some other body would have that role.

Name another body that has the kind of international ties that the UN has.


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PostRe: Super Hi-Vision. 8K TV standard approved by the UN
by Moggy » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:22 pm

Lagamorph wrote:
~Earl Grey~ wrote:Why is it the UN's business to approve TV standards? I'd have thought some other body would have that role.

Name another body that has the kind of international ties that the UN has.


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by NickSCFC » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:32 pm

Something Fishy wrote:Can't see me ever wanting a TV big enough for 4k let alone this but it's nice if that's your thing.


If your TV's 40" or over you should notice the difference between 1080p and 2160p from up to 9ft.

For 4320p you'll need a set 60" or above to notice.

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PostRe: Super Hi-Vision. 8K TV standard approved by the UN
by Moggy » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:40 pm

For 4320p I'll need a TV set the size of my penis? :shock:

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by NickSCFC » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:47 pm

Moggy wrote:For 4320p I'll need a TV set the size of my penis? :shock:


Not really, for example I can see people using 4320p TVs to view 32mp photos up close in the same way people like 'retina display' for looking at text close up.

Doesn't 35mm film roughly translate to 2160p? What resolution is The Hobbit being recorded in?

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PostRe: Super Hi-Vision. 8K TV standard approved by the UN
by Denster » Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:02 pm

Moggy wrote:For 4320p I'll need a TV set the size of my penis? :shock:



" represents inches. Not millimetres.

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PostRe: Super Hi-Vision. 8K TV standard approved by the UN
by Little Old Man » Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:14 pm

NickSCFC wrote:
Moggy wrote:For 4320p I'll need a TV set the size of my penis? :shock:


Not really, for example I can see people using 4320p TVs to view 32mp photos up close in the same way people like 'retina display' for looking at text close up.

Doesn't 35mm film roughly translate to 2160p? What resolution is The Hobbit being recorded in?


Can't standard film be scanned in at pretty much any resolution?

Hobbit is being shot digitally on RED 4k 3D cameras.

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PostRe: Super Hi-Vision. 8K TV standard approved by the UN
by SEP » Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:36 pm

Little Old Man wrote:Hobbit is being shot digitally on RED 4k 3D cameras.


Damn, BLU are going to be pissed off with that.

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by Something Fishy » Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:42 pm

NickSCFC wrote:
Something Fishy wrote:Can't see me ever wanting a TV big enough for 4k let alone this but it's nice if that's your thing.


If your TV's 40" or over you should notice the difference between 1080p and 2160p from up to 9ft.

For 4320p you'll need a set 60" or above to notice.


Yup, I only have a 32 but sit quite close to it. Can't see us going up to a 40 but knew we'd never been going up to a res that needs 4k.

1080p will do us just fine. Be nice when everything is broadcast that way and all games run that way at a high frame rate on consoles too.

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PostRe: Super Hi-Vision. 8K TV standard approved by the UN
by ~Earl Grey~ » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:04 pm

Lagamorph wrote:
~Earl Grey~ wrote:Why is it the UN's business to approve TV standards? I'd have thought some other body would have that role.

Name another body that has the kind of international ties that the UN has.


I don't know but I would have thought that this kind of thing would be more the domain of, say, the IEEE.

Or is that a completely retarded conclusion to come to?

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PostRe: Super Hi-Vision. 8K TV standard approved by the UN
by Little Old Man » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:31 pm

Somebody Else's Problem wrote:
Little Old Man wrote:Hobbit is being shot digitally on RED 4k 3D cameras.


Damn, BLU are going to be pissed off with that.


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