Super Mario Bros. Wonder | NSW | 20/10/2023 | 13.4 million units sold!

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PostRe: Super Mario Bros. Wonder | NSW | 20.10.2023
by Tomous » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:09 am

The flower is great :toot:

I'm buzzing for this. It's looks exactly like what I wanted. A 2D Mario with a new art style and Nintendo not afraid to take some creative risks.

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by shy guy 64 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:32 am

Tomous wrote:The flower is great :toot:

I'm buzzing for this. It's looms exactly like what I wanted. A 2D Mario with a new art style and Nintendo not afraid to take some creative risks.


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by OrangeRKN » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:48 am

Jenuall wrote:There's just something deeply unattractive about the composition of the art in this (and the NSMB games) for me. Each individual element isn't necessarily offensive in its own right, although they definitely lack the charm of the early 2D art assets, but the way it is all put together just feels, for want of a better word, cheap.

It's like copy and pasted stock art assets from some game maker package dropped together with no refinement to how they sit with one another, both technically (lighting/artificial highlights frequently looks inconsistent across different elements on screen) and artistically (clashing of styles, parts that look like they belong to different asset packs slapped together)


I get what you mean about the almost clashing styles, I think some elements (characters especially) look further removed from NSMB style than others (like the pipes, blocks and coins). I think part of it is down to the flatness of the level with 3D models on it (compare 3D world style in Mario Maker that gave the level depth for where Mario and enemies are standing).

Jezo wrote:They just didn't want to think about how mario would stretch.


Do you want to think about that? I know I don't!

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PostRe: Super Mario Bros. Wonder | NSW | 20.10.2023
by ITSMILNER » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:55 am

This game is full of character, look at the expressions on Mario’s face and the way he interacts with the environment. It’s a step up from NSMB that much is clear

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PostRe: Super Mario Bros. Wonder | NSW | 20.10.2023
by Ploiper » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:20 am

i think, art style wise, this is the best 2D Mario has ever looked, i love it.

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by Qikz » Thu Jun 22, 2023 8:26 pm

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by ITSMILNER » Thu Jun 22, 2023 8:33 pm

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The right reminds me of NES/SNES era Mario :wub: think this has overtaken Spider-Man 2 to become my most wanted game this year!

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by Victor Mildew » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:08 pm

Wonder theme for Mario maker 2 pls.

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PostRe: Super Mario Bros. Wonder | NSW | 20.10.2023
by kazanova_Frankenstein » Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:21 am

If that talking flower gets patched in with AI generated voice lines (maybe reading out people's comments) I will be back on the MM2 train.

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by deathofcows » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:17 pm

In a shock twist to my expectations I checked out the Japanese trailer and think I actually prefer the sleepy song-song English one more?!

Also I agree with all the positive reception to the spritely , sprite-y soft-shaded rich-coloured art style.

Unsure about the music but it's better than NSMB's elevator Mario music.

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by kazanova_Frankenstein » Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:18 pm

deathofcows wrote:In a shock twist to my expectations I checked out the Japanese trailer and think I actually prefer the sleepy song-song English one more?!

Also I agree with all the positive reception to the spritely , sprite-y soft-shaded rich-coloured art style.

Unsure about the music but it's better than NSMB's elevator Mario music.


Any views on the talking flower?

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by deathofcows » Sat Jun 24, 2023 3:52 am

kazanova_Frankenstein wrote:
deathofcows wrote:In a shock twist to my expectations I checked out the Japanese trailer and think I actually prefer the sleepy song-song English one more?!

Also I agree with all the positive reception to the spritely , sprite-y soft-shaded rich-coloured art style.

Unsure about the music but it's better than NSMB's elevator Mario music.


Any views on the talking flower?


Sorry the first but referred to the flower! Preferred the English one compared to the more zany harsh Japanese one. But let's see. I just really liked the Well Then bit

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PostRe: Super Mario Bros. Wonder | NSW | 20.10.2023
by jawa_ » Sat Jun 24, 2023 9:12 am

Victor Mildew wrote:Wonder theme for Mario maker 2 pls.

That's a great idea! It'd breathe new life into Maker :-).

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PostRe: Super Mario Bros. Wonder | NSW | 20.10.2023
by Jenuall » Sat Jun 24, 2023 9:46 am

Would much rather have had a new Mario Maker than this in all honesty

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PostRe: Super Mario Bros. Wonder | NSW | 20.10.2023
by kazanova_Frankenstein » Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:08 pm

deathofcows wrote:
kazanova_Frankenstein wrote:
deathofcows wrote:In a shock twist to my expectations I checked out the Japanese trailer and think I actually prefer the sleepy song-song English one more?!

Also I agree with all the positive reception to the spritely , sprite-y soft-shaded rich-coloured art style.

Unsure about the music but it's better than NSMB's elevator Mario music.


Any views on the talking flower?


Sorry the first but referred to the flower! Preferred the English one compared to the more zany harsh Japanese one. But let's see. I just really liked the Well Then bit


Great to hear! The “well then” has basically sold me on the game. I can’t get it out of my head.

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PostRe: Super Mario Bros. Wonder | NSW | 20.10.2023
by Robbo-92 » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:25 pm

Qikz wrote:

twitter.com/guywiththepie/status/1671904498590138368



Bonus

twitter.com/ItzaMiiiii/status/1671757346887077889



That has so much more charm to it :wub:

Jenuall wrote:Would much rather have had a new Mario Maker than this in all honesty


I never really got the appeal of Mario Maker, mainly down to my lack of creativity, would have thought there will either be a Wonder style update for MM2 or a MM3 out for the next hardware? But at this point we could still be easily 2 years away from new hardware :lol:

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by kazanova_Frankenstein » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:30 pm

Robbo-92 wrote:
Qikz wrote:

twitter.com/guywiththepie/status/1671904498590138368



Bonus

twitter.com/ItzaMiiiii/status/1671757346887077889



That has so much more charm to it :wub:

Jenuall wrote:Would much rather have had a new Mario Maker than this in all honesty


I never really got the appeal of Mario Maker, mainly down to my lack of creativity, would have thought there will either be a Wonder style update for MM2 or a MM3 out for the next hardware? But at this point we could still be easily 2 years away from new hardware :lol:


Same for me. I played a lot of user created levels, but outside of GRcade submissions it was always a bit of a lottery. I was mainly there for the single player stuff. Then my NSO sub lapsed and that was me for 2 years.

I tried creating two levels. It was two of the most stressful experiences of my life (in or outside of gaming).

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PostRe: Super Mario Bros. Wonder | NSW | 20.10.2023
by Tomous » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:36 pm

Robbo-92 wrote:
Qikz wrote:

twitter.com/guywiththepie/status/1671904498590138368



Bonus

twitter.com/ItzaMiiiii/status/1671757346887077889



That has so much more charm to it :wub:

Jenuall wrote:Would much rather have had a new Mario Maker than this in all honesty


I never really got the appeal of Mario Maker, mainly down to my lack of creativity, would have thought there will either be a Wonder style update for MM2 or a MM3 out for the next hardware? But at this point we could still be easily 2 years away from new hardware :lol:



Mario Maker is an EPD10 game who have both Pikmin 4 and Mario Bros Wonder out this year, so it's unlikely to even be in development. Obviously it makes sense as a 1 per system series but I'm not totally convinced MM3 goes straight into production after Wonder. It didn't sell badly by any means-8m I believe, but that isn't a huge increase on the first despite the far great installation base. If Wonder is a big hit (which let's be fair, it will be) I can see them going for a sequel before MM3. Nintendo are in the process of expanding though so who knows.

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PostRe: Super Mario Bros. Wonder | NSW | 20.10.2023
by Robbo-92 » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:39 pm

Wouldn’t a Wonder style update be more viable for MM2 then? Obviously it’d still take a fair bit of work, but probably not as much as a whole new game, imagine a lot of the process for the Maker games is testing all the items/objects work as intended in the given styles.

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PostRe: Super Mario Bros. Wonder | NSW | 20.10.2023
by Tomous » Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:43 pm

Robbo-92 wrote:Wouldn’t a Wonder style update be more viable for MM2 then? Obviously it’d still take a fair bit of work, but probably not as much as a whole new game, imagine a lot of the process for the Maker games is testing all the items/objects work as intended in the given styles.



I think we all know what will actually happen is they'll port MM2 to Switch 2 and add Wonder as a bonus theme.

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