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Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate - Coming December 2018 only on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:23 pm
by Pedz
Jezo wrote:
Balladeer wrote:Echoes: Blood Falcon, Octoling... Kraid maybe? (Bowser echo)
New fighters: Decidueye, Rex & Pyra, Phoenix Wright :mrgreen:

Echoes are same franchise. Also, it's going to be an echo of Palutena, Pac-man, Robin, Shulk, Bowser Jr., Duck Hunt, Ryu, or Cloud


What would be the echo from duck hunt? A clay pigeon?

Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate - Coming December 2018 only on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:48 pm
by Corazon de Leon
Balladeer wrote:Echoes: Blood Falcon, Octoling... Kraid maybe? (Bowser echo)
New fighters: Decidueye, Rex & Pyra, Phoenix Wright :mrgreen:


No thanks, given that he's been in every game so far. :slol:

I must say on the Incineroar chat, I'd be quite happy for no more Pokemon to grace Smash Brothers for the time being - Pichu, Pikachu, Charizard, Ivysaur, Squirtle, Mewtwo, Lucario, Greninja, Jigglypuff is more than enough for me. :lol:

Same with Fire Emblem, there are plenty of them.

Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate - Coming December 2018 only on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:07 pm
by Tomous
Corazon de Leon wrote:
Balladeer wrote:Echoes: Blood Falcon, Octoling... Kraid maybe? (Bowser echo)
New fighters: Decidueye, Rex & Pyra, Phoenix Wright :mrgreen:


No thanks, given that he's been in every game so far. :slol:

I must say on the Incineroar chat, I'd be quite happy for no more Pokemon to grace Smash Brothers for the time being - Pichu, Pikachu, Charizard, Ivysaur, Squirtle, Mewtwo, Lucario, Greninja, Jigglypuff is more than enough for me. :lol:

Same with Fire Emblem, there are plenty of them.


Pokemon is Nintendo’s biggest franchise outside of Mario so I think the representation is fair, especially when 3 of the Pokemon you’ve named fall under Pokemon Trainer. And at least they’re all fairly varied. I think one new rep a generation is fair.

Totally agree on Fire Emblem though. It’s way over represented for the numbers the series does and for how distinct the characters are.

Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate - Coming December 2018 only on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:51 pm
by Herdanos
It is bizarre that they won't budge from one when it comes to F-Zero, given how easy it'd be to just pick another character. Even Earthbound has two.

Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate - Coming December 2018 only on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:59 pm
by shy guy 64
Pedz wrote:
Jezo wrote:
Balladeer wrote:Echoes: Blood Falcon, Octoling... Kraid maybe? (Bowser echo)
New fighters: Decidueye, Rex & Pyra, Phoenix Wright :mrgreen:

Echoes are same franchise. Also, it's going to be an echo of Palutena, Pac-man, Robin, Shulk, Bowser Jr., Duck Hunt, Ryu, or Cloud


What would be the echo from duck hunt? A clay pigeon?


well there could be a nintendogs + ducks in the works

unlikely but could be

Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate - Coming December 2018 only on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:09 pm
by Qikz
shy guy 64 wrote:
Pedz wrote:
Jezo wrote:
Balladeer wrote:Echoes: Blood Falcon, Octoling... Kraid maybe? (Bowser echo)
New fighters: Decidueye, Rex & Pyra, Phoenix Wright :mrgreen:

Echoes are same franchise. Also, it's going to be an echo of Palutena, Pac-man, Robin, Shulk, Bowser Jr., Duck Hunt, Ryu, or Cloud


What would be the echo from duck hunt? A clay pigeon?


well there could be a nintendogs + ducks in the works

unlikely but could be


A BIG DUCK WITH A PUPPY AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate - Coming December 2018 only on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:24 pm
by Tomous
Quantum Name wrote:It is bizarre that they won't budge from one when it comes to F-Zero, given how easy it'd be to just pick another character. Even Earthbound has two.


Brawl was the time it needed to happen I think. F-Zero GX wasn’t that long ago when they made Brawl. Now it’s a series without a new entry in 15 years and there’s no particularly iconic character to select anyway.

I think Earthbound benefits from bias from Sakurai because he likes those games and there is obviously the Hal connection.

Plus the newcomers this time round seem to be much more driven by popularity in the fan base, influenced by the ballot no doubt. I think there are a lot of characters higher up in the list than a new F-Zero rep.

Tl;dr: Nintendo make us a new F-Zero

Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate - Coming December 2018 only on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:26 pm
by Kriken

twitter.com/_Mizumi/status/1042236457493114881


Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate - Coming December 2018 only on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:47 pm
by DML
Tomous wrote:
imbusydoctorwho wrote:The game is still just under 3 months away and I still think they'll be more characters to come than 2.
My guess a character a month, then a load in the inevitable Smash Direct.

I recon 8-10 more characters but most of them will be echoes.


At this point, I think the final 2 characters are Ken and Incineroar but what they will do is fully roadmap their DLC plans in the inevitable November Smash Direct.

I think it’ll be a season pass and they’ll confirm some of the characters they’re working on, which will include Springman + echo and Rex + Pyra (because their games were released too late in the development cycle to get in the main game) and some third party reps. I don’t think they’ll reveal everything but enough to lessen the blow of how underwhelming a final reveal of Ken/Incineroar would be-which let’s be fair, it would be, after the announcements they’ve had so far.


But surely they aren't building to a poor reveal? Sakurai has absolutely NAILED it thus far, surely they would have left K Rool for later if they thought that was going to be the case.

Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate - Coming December 2018 only on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:49 pm
by Jazzem
Kriken wrote:

twitter.com/_Mizumi/status/1042236457493114881



:lol:

Honestly, Falco and Kazooie's personality types aren't too far removed, the latter perhaps having more of a sardonic wit in her snark

Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate - Coming December 2018 only on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:23 pm
by Kriken
DML wrote:But surely they aren't building to a poor reveal? Sakurai has absolutely NAILED it thus far, surely they would have left K Rool for later if they thought that was going to be the case.

Perhaps the announcement of those two characters will be part of a bigger reveal of, say, a big adventure mode or some other big singleplayer or even multiplayer aspect.

Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate - Coming December 2018 only on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:16 pm
by Tomous
DML wrote:
Tomous wrote:
imbusydoctorwho wrote:The game is still just under 3 months away and I still think they'll be more characters to come than 2.
My guess a character a month, then a load in the inevitable Smash Direct.

I recon 8-10 more characters but most of them will be echoes.


At this point, I think the final 2 characters are Ken and Incineroar but what they will do is fully roadmap their DLC plans in the inevitable November Smash Direct.

I think it’ll be a season pass and they’ll confirm some of the characters they’re working on, which will include Springman + echo and Rex + Pyra (because their games were released too late in the development cycle to get in the main game) and some third party reps. I don’t think they’ll reveal everything but enough to lessen the blow of how underwhelming a final reveal of Ken/Incineroar would be-which let’s be fair, it would be, after the announcements they’ve had so far.


But surely they aren't building to a poor reveal? Sakurai has absolutely NAILED it thus far, surely they would have left K Rool for later if they thought that was going to be the case.


That’s why I think they’re going to roadmap the DLC and it’ll include some big third party reps. People won’t mind waiting if they know big characters are coming with DLC and it’ll basically instantly sell a season pass.

Plus they’ve still got the single player to reveal which will be the main focus of the final Direct I think.

Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate - Coming December 2018 only on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:46 pm
by HaruKazuhira
I can see another Smash Direct happening next month, either mid or late October. Seems like Sakurai really wants to reveal everything he can before it releases, making me assume there could be potential for a demo for testfire like event happening closer to release.

Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate - Coming December 2018 only on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:52 am
by Balladeer
Bloody leakers, ruining everything for everyone...

Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate - Coming December 2018 only on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:18 am
by Kriken
That render of Banjo and Kazooie isn't real guys. Relax.

Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate - Coming December 2018 only on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:25 am
by Jazzem
Kriken wrote:That render of Banjo and Kazooie isn't real guys. Relax.


To me it is ;_;

Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate - Coming December 2018 only on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:42 am
by Balladeer
Balladeer wrote:They have been up until now. Remember when Ganondorf was released as an echo, effectively, of Falcon? Which was and remains bobbins, but still.

The recent video showing Ganondorf actually using his sword is the best thing this game has shown off so far. :cry:

Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate - Coming December 2018 only on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:14 pm
by Corazon de Leon
Tomous wrote:
Quantum Name wrote:It is bizarre that they won't budge from one when it comes to F-Zero, given how easy it'd be to just pick another character. Even Earthbound has two.


Brawl was the time it needed to happen I think. F-Zero GX wasn’t that long ago when they made Brawl. Now it’s a series without a new entry in 15 years and there’s no particularly iconic character to select anyway.

I think Earthbound benefits from bias from Sakurai because he likes those games and there is obviously the Hal connection.

Plus the newcomers this time round seem to be much more driven by popularity in the fan base, influenced by the ballot no doubt. I think there are a lot of characters higher up in the list than a new F-Zero rep.

Tl;dr: Nintendo make us a new F-Zero


You are of course correct that Brawl was the right place for Black Shadow, and I know the reason for no follow up F-Zero games is down to the fact that sales of GX weren’t as high as anticipated. But then again it was on one of Nintendo’s lowest selling consoles - you’d think they would’ve tested the water with a new one on the Wii or Wii U already. :(

Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate - Coming December 2018 only on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:22 pm
by Tomous
Corazon de Leon wrote:
Tomous wrote:
Quantum Name wrote:It is bizarre that they won't budge from one when it comes to F-Zero, given how easy it'd be to just pick another character. Even Earthbound has two.


Brawl was the time it needed to happen I think. F-Zero GX wasn’t that long ago when they made Brawl. Now it’s a series without a new entry in 15 years and there’s no particularly iconic character to select anyway.

I think Earthbound benefits from bias from Sakurai because he likes those games and there is obviously the Hal connection.

Plus the newcomers this time round seem to be much more driven by popularity in the fan base, influenced by the ballot no doubt. I think there are a lot of characters higher up in the list than a new F-Zero rep.

Tl;dr: Nintendo make us a new F-Zero


You are of course correct that Brawl was the right place for Black Shadow, and I know the reason for no follow up F-Zero games is down to the fact that sales of GX weren’t as high as anticipated. But then again it was on one of Nintendo’s lowest selling consoles - you’d think they would’ve tested the water with a new one on the Wii or Wii U already. :(


I don’t know if you’re aware but they actually tried to get Critereon to make one for the Wii U. It didn’t work out obviously but at least there is still some appetite there to make another, even if it’s not longer with an internal team.

I think I speak for a lot of us when I say we’d all be happy enough if they took a HD brush across F-Zero GX and added online play though.

Re: Super Smash Bros Ultimate - Coming December 2018 only on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:15 pm
by Balladeer
And make it easier.

What? Story Mode almost made me cry.