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more heat than light wrote:

Death's Head wrote:The article above did mention an interesting item though, about how you could buy something on the XBox at 30% discount and then use on the PS4 version with no revenue for Sony.

It works the other way too though, and overall you'd expect figures to even themselves out. If anything, surely Nintendo are at a disadvantage with this as their version of Fortnite came out last?

I think Sony will be only be bothered if you buy stuff on another platform and use on their's.

Death's Head wrote:

more heat than light wrote:

Death's Head wrote:The article above did mention an interesting item though, about how you could buy something on the XBox at 30% discount and then use on the PS4 version with no revenue for Sony.

It works the other way too though, and overall you'd expect figures to even themselves out. If anything, surely Nintendo are at a disadvantage with this as their version of Fortnite came out last?

I think Sony will be only be bothered if you buy stuff on another platform and use on their's.

Well obviously, but why does it matter if everyone is in the same boat?

I can’t tell if DH has engaged his SDF mode or not.

Photek wrote:I can’t tell if DH has engaged his SDF mode or not.

I don't have an SDF mode, just pointing out Sony wants all of the money.

It's not that different from buying games physical or on PC - you can shop around and get the best deal for the thing you want.

Sony have become too married to the idea of having a closed digital store, and they rely on it for growth. Unfortunately the only thing that can make them go back is legislation - but the fallout from opening up digital console stores could be huge. We want a consumer friendly console market, not no console market.

Death's Head wrote:The article above did mention an interesting item though, about how you could buy something on the XBox at 30% discount and then use on the PS4 version with no revenue for Sony.

As a gamer, I couldn't give less of a strawberry float about Sony's revenues.

twitter.com/NextUpHero/status/1012333853862608897

Another one to add to the list, free with Game Pass.

Rax wrote:The only way they will allow it is if it affects sales, theres no reason for them to jump on board while they are out in front and everyone is on PS4 anyway. If MS can turn it around and be the market leader with the next round of machines then we might see Sony make serious noises about cross platform play but until then I cant see them budging much.

You're probably right, but social pressure can do a fair amount to change a company's mind. Witness the Star Wars Battlefront controversy. If people keep this up then things might change, especially because I've started to see (in the wake of E3) a couple of people saying they'd rather go for XBox Two over PS5.

The more and more games that keep launching with those 4 platforms all supporting crossplay, the sooner Sony will relent.

They'll simply have to if they want to maintain any semblance of decency.

Somebody Else's Problem wrote:

Death's Head wrote:The article above did mention an interesting item though, about how you could buy something on the XBox at 30% discount and then use on the PS4 version with no revenue for Sony.

As a gamer, I couldn't give less of a strawberry float about Sony's revenues.

You kind of have to care a little bit, with no revenue there will be no games.

As we move into a digital only future, these issues need to be looked at with decent legislation. I can accept that a game bought on the Microsoft store will not be available on a Sony console. But the digital marketplaces need to be opened up to competition on each platform. I think they will eventually, it is going to be quite clear that MS or Sony have a monopoly if the only option to buy games is through the digital stores that they control.

Moggy wrote:

Somebody Else's Problem wrote:

Death's Head wrote:The article above did mention an interesting item though, about how you could buy something on the XBox at 30% discount and then use on the PS4 version with no revenue for Sony.

As a gamer, I couldn't give less of a strawberry float about Sony's revenues.

You kind of have to care a little bit, with no revenue there will be no games.

As we move into a digital only future, these issues need to be looked at with decent legislation. I can accept that a game bought on the Microsoft store will not be available on a Sony console. But the digital marketplaces need to be opened up to competition on each platform. I think they will eventually, it is going to be quite clear that MS or Sony have a monopoly if the only option to buy games is through the digital stores that they control.

You'd think if that was going to happen then Apple would have been hit by it by now. They'll claim it's a security risk or something being able to sideload content from different stores that aren't the official one.

BID0 wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Somebody Else's Problem wrote:

Death's Head wrote:The article above did mention an interesting item though, about how you could buy something on the XBox at 30% discount and then use on the PS4 version with no revenue for Sony.

As a gamer, I couldn't give less of a strawberry float about Sony's revenues.

You kind of have to care a little bit, with no revenue there will be no games.

As we move into a digital only future, these issues need to be looked at with decent legislation. I can accept that a game bought on the Microsoft store will not be available on a Sony console. But the digital marketplaces need to be opened up to competition on each platform. I think they will eventually, it is going to be quite clear that MS or Sony have a monopoly if the only option to buy games is through the digital stores that they control.

You'd think if that was going to happen then Apple would have been hit by it by now. They'll claim it's a security risk or something being able to sideload content from different stores that aren't the official one.

They might get hit soon.

https://www.developer-tech.com/news/201 ... e-lawsuit/

BID0 wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Somebody Else's Problem wrote:

Death's Head wrote:The article above did mention an interesting item though, about how you could buy something on the XBox at 30% discount and then use on the PS4 version with no revenue for Sony.

As a gamer, I couldn't give less of a strawberry float about Sony's revenues.

You kind of have to care a little bit, with no revenue there will be no games.

As we move into a digital only future, these issues need to be looked at with decent legislation. I can accept that a game bought on the Microsoft store will not be available on a Sony console. But the digital marketplaces need to be opened up to competition on each platform. I think they will eventually, it is going to be quite clear that MS or Sony have a monopoly if the only option to buy games is through the digital stores that they control.

You'd think if that was going to happen then Apple would have been hit by it by now. They'll claim it's a security risk or something being able to sideload content from different stores that aren't the official one.

As long as there are multiple consoles there isn't a monopoly.

Apple can control apps on iOS and Google Android because there are 2 options in phone OS to pick from thus it isn't a monopoly, same in consoles as long as there is Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo there is a consumer choice as to which console and ecosystem to buy and so no one is controlling the game industry.

as we go download only there will be more download code sales etc. like you see for Steam available which will also create competition (ish) within the ecosystem

Errkal wrote:

BID0 wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Somebody Else's Problem wrote:

Death's Head wrote:The article above did mention an interesting item though, about how you could buy something on the XBox at 30% discount and then use on the PS4 version with no revenue for Sony.

As a gamer, I couldn't give less of a strawberry float about Sony's revenues.

You kind of have to care a little bit, with no revenue there will be no games.

As we move into a digital only future, these issues need to be looked at with decent legislation. I can accept that a game bought on the Microsoft store will not be available on a Sony console. But the digital marketplaces need to be opened up to competition on each platform. I think they will eventually, it is going to be quite clear that MS or Sony have a monopoly if the only option to buy games is through the digital stores that they control.

You'd think if that was going to happen then Apple would have been hit by it by now. They'll claim it's a security risk or something being able to sideload content from different stores that aren't the official one.

As long as there are multiple consoles there isn't a monopoly.

Apple can control apps on iOS and Google Android because there are 2 options in phone OS to pick from thus it isn't a monopoly, same in consoles as long as there is Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo there is a consumer choice as to which console and ecosystem to buy and so no one is controlling the game industry.

as we go download only there will be more download code sales etc. like you see for Steam available which will also create competition (ish) within the ecosystem

That's not necessarily true. Microsoft lost an antitrust case for bundling Internet Explorer with Windows. The case rested on MS having a monopoly over the operating systems of PCs, which wasn't really true as there were other options (Linux for instance).

I'd say a company controlling the content for an entire range of machines could easily fall foul of a raft of different competition laws. I don't expect it to happen for a long time yet (we still have the physical option) but I think they will be in trouble unless they open it up a bit more.

So, how does this crossplay work then? What do you do on your Switch/XB1 to play with someone on the opposite platform?

Surely you cant add Switch friend codes to XB friends list or vice versa, or can you?

KingK wrote:So, how does this crossplay work then? What do you do on your Switch/XB1 to play with someone on the opposite platform?

Surely you cant add Switch friend codes to XB friends list or vice versa, or can you?

You can play with people you have on your Epic friends list.

Cross-play is great. At the GRcade Rocket League Tuesday sessions, you just enter the room code and password and then you can jump in and play. We have GRcadians on Xbox One, Switch and PC all playing together :-).

The thing that surprises me about the whole debacle is that people apparently actually sign up for things like Epic accounts.

I had assumed that everyone just did what I did when first loading the game, which is to immediately say "no thanks just let me play your damn game".

OrangeRakoon wrote:The thing that surprises me about the whole debacle is that people apparently actually sign up for things like Epic accounts.

I had assumed that everyone just did what I did when first loading the game, which is to immediately say "no thanks just let me play your damn game".

You can't play their games without an Epic account. You have to download their Epic games launcher which is similar to Origin or Uplay without the store.

Errkal wrote:

BID0 wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Somebody Else's Problem wrote:

Death's Head wrote:The article above did mention an interesting item though, about how you could buy something on the XBox at 30% discount and then use on the PS4 version with no revenue for Sony.

As a gamer, I couldn't give less of a strawberry float about Sony's revenues.

You kind of have to care a little bit, with no revenue there will be no games.

As we move into a digital only future, these issues need to be looked at with decent legislation. I can accept that a game bought on the Microsoft store will not be available on a Sony console. But the digital marketplaces need to be opened up to competition on each platform. I think they will eventually, it is going to be quite clear that MS or Sony have a monopoly if the only option to buy games is through the digital stores that they control.

You'd think if that was going to happen then Apple would have been hit by it by now. They'll claim it's a security risk or something being able to sideload content from different stores that aren't the official one.

As long as there are multiple consoles there isn't a monopoly.

Apple can control apps on iOS and Google Android because there are 2 options in phone OS to pick from thus it isn't a monopoly, same in consoles as long as there is Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo there is a consumer choice as to which console and ecosystem to buy and so no one is controlling the game industry.

as we go download only there will be more download code sales etc. like you see for Steam available which will also create competition (ish) within the ecosystem

Yup and that kind of thing is available already which would stop it being classed as a monopoly. You can buy Xbox digital content from the Xbox online store but via a 3rd party like Amazon, Game, CDKeys etc