Tales of Berseria | PC and PS4

A new Tales game has been announced at this weekend's Tales Festival. It will be the first Tales game to star a female character as the only main protagonist.

I'm all for maximising the potential audience of a game but it's hard not to be disappointed by the news that it's cross-gen. Hopefully we'll get news of Zestiria coming to PC this weekend and Berseria will follow suit when it's closer to being released.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... ame/.88974

Official web site: http://talesofberseria.tales-ch.jp/

NickSCFC · PostRe: Tales of Berseria (PS3/PS4) by **NickSCFC** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:54 pm

Cross-gen

PostRe: Tales of Berseria (PS3/PS4) by **BAKA** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:10 pm

Better cross-gen than last gen, or no gen at all as far as I'm concerned. It's a Tales game, it was hardly going to push the envelope in terms of the current generation of hardware anyway. I'm confounded someone who doesn't appear to have picked up a Tales game in the entirety of the last hardware generation is so bothered about it, to be honest.

I agree that it's better to have it come out on PS4 and PS3 than just the PS3, or not at all. When I was playing Graces f, I could tell that parts of it suffered due to it originally being a Wii title so I'm worried that the same may happen here. At the very least, I'll be happy if it means that the PS4 version will keep a solid frame rate.

PostRe: Tales of Berseria (PS3/PS4) by **Lagamorph** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:37 pm

Wasn't Graces originally just a Wii game in Japan though that was then later ported to PS3, but that wasn't the original intention?
Still, nice to see a new Tales Game, just hope being cross-gen doesn't restrict it too much.
Given the audience size though, I can sort of understand why they're sticking with PS3 for now. It's the same situation with Persona 5, if it were next gen only it would noticeably hurt sales.

PostRe: Tales of Berseria (PS3/PS4) by **BAKA** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:56 pm

Lagamorph wrote:Given the audience size though, I can sort of understand why they're sticking with PS3 for now. It's the same situation with Persona 5, if it were next gen only it would noticeably hurt sales.

Yeah, it's very understandable, as far as I'm concerned, especially considering the primary audience is the Japanese market, and the sluggish sales of current generation home consoles in Japan.

Perhaps it's just me, but I think Vesperia is one of the more accomplished looking Tales games for a long time, possibly down to a cleaner art-style, but I wonder if shrinking budgets has anything to do with it. We know the Tales Studio had financial issues shortly after Vesperia. There's speculation Xillia started life as a Wii game too, which could explain a lot, but I think budget is more of a constraint when it comes to Tales games than hardware limitations.

The PS3 really did kill the home console industry in Japan.

So that's just Milla with dark hair :slol:

Graces could have suffered due to it initially being a Wii title that was ported to the PS3, instead of being developed with both consoles in mind, but there's still a risk of Berseria not looking as good as it could have been if it was only coming out on PS4. Of course, as Baka points out, the main audience of this series is in Japan where the PS4 userbase isn't growing as quickly as it is elsewhere so at least this bodes well for future titles.

Baka, you raised an interesting point about Tales budgets about which I've not known much. Vesperia is definitely on of the better looking titles in the series so budget could indeed be playing a bigger factor than hardware in terms of appearance.

I always found it strange that Tales games moved between platforms instead of coming out on as many as possible at once but I suppose that ties into budget reasons. I had hoped that this generation would see the games reach more people given the similarities between the hardware but I suppose that a Sony/PC release is the most likely scenario.

suzzopher wrote:I think the 360 exclusivity hurt the series a bit, the 360 version did not sell well and the PS3 port sold well however at that point the traction for the series was lost as it then went to Wii before settling back down as a PlayStation franchise again, the problem was if you split where the core series goes, the fanbase will not always follow the franchise to a new platform, which leads to that fanbase shrinking.

I think the producer touched on this a few years ago, basically saying that they shouldn't have strayed from where their fans would be and that's why now the series is back as a PlayStation series again. But sadly the budgets have dropped due to some poor decisions early in the last generation.

Weirdly Symphonia sold well as a GameCube exclusive, yet the rest went back to PlayStation, so I guess the PS2 port must have sold better in Japan?

Having PS4/PC going forward would be the best situation then they can grow their fanbase back up then hopefully bigger budgets will return.

I always found it strange that Tales games moved between platforms instead of coming out on as many as possible at once but I suppose that ties into budget reasons. I had hoped that this generation would see the games reach more people given the similarities between the hardware but I suppose that a Sony/PC release is the most likely scenario.

Dark Dragon 64 wrote:
suzzopher wrote:I think the 360 exclusivity hurt the series a bit, the 360 version did not sell well and the PS3 port sold well however at that point the traction for the series was lost as it then went to Wii before settling back down as a PlayStation franchise again, the problem was if you split where the core series goes, the fanbase will not always follow the franchise to a new platform, which leads to that fanbase shrinking.

I think the producer touched on this a few years ago, basically saying that they shouldn't have strayed from where their fans would be and that's why now the series is back as a PlayStation series again. But sadly the budgets have dropped due to some poor decisions early in the last generation.

Weirdly Symphonia sold well as a GameCube exclusive, yet the rest went back to PlayStation, so I guess the PS2 port must have sold better in Japan?

Having PS4/PC going forward would be the best situation then they can grow their fanbase back up then hopefully bigger budgets will return.
I always found it strange that Tales games moved between platforms instead of coming out on as many as possible at once but I suppose that ties into budget reasons. I had hoped that this generation would see the games reach more people given the similarities between the hardware but I suppose that a Sony/PC release is the most likely scenario.

I deleted my post by mistake instead of editing it, so glad you quoted it in time :lol:

I think these smaller Japanese studios know that there is no point doing an Xbox version of their games as last gen showed they do not sell enough to warrant it. PC has proved to be as successful if not more so than PS3 releases of games overseas so that justifies the games being made there.

I was wondering where it went :lol:

It's a shame that Vesperia didn't sell well as it's a fantastic game. It's an even bigger shame that the Japanese PS3 version wasn't released here because a lot of fans have probably missed out on it. Of course, there are ways to play it in English :shifty:

I was hoping that the X1 would see Tales games to give the series a boost in numbers but, as you said, it looks like it wouldn't make financial sense. Given that about 50% of the PS4's audience didn't own a PS3, it looks like there may still be new fans to the series so that's hopeful for its future.

I held off buying Xillia 2 as I'd like to finish 1 first and I'll wait for Zestiria, and this, if I haven't finished Xillia 2. That being said, a PC release of Zestiria or Berseria would be a day one purchase. I'd even be tempted to buy a re-release/remaster/port of Xillia 1 and 2 if they came to PC :shifty:

I did it for Valkyria Chornicles

Honestly games coming from Japan need to be PS4/PC when they arrive, you have the system which has the core user base for these titles and then you have PC gamers who are way more open minded than the usual console crowd. I love that Valkyria Chronicles got a new lease of life on PC and hopefully it does well enough for SEGA to maybe take another look at the franchise.

I'd also love to see the PS4 Yakuza games come over the same way PS4/PC.

Sega was very impressed by the reception that VC got on PC but, sadly, we've heard nothing since that statement following the PC launch. Zestiria is still a few months away and I'm counting on it getting a PC and PS4 announcement before the weekend it up. It does look like it'll do better on PC and the PS4 in the West than the PS3.

Dark Dragon 64 wrote:Sega was very impressed by the reception that VC got on PC but, sadly, we've heard nothing since that statement following the PC launch. Zestiria is still a few months away and I'm counting on it getting a PC and PS4 announcement before the weekend it up. It does look like it'll do better on PC and the PS4 in the West than the PS3.

Yeah I have no idea why people would put out PS3 games in the west anymore, it is a dead system now. Well unless Sony dropped the price to £99 or something silly.

Hopefully we'll see a price drop at E3. I was unpleasantly surprised by how much it still cost when I wanted to buy another to play Graces f in my bedroom.

Dark Dragon 64 wrote:Hopefully we'll see a price drop at E3. I was unpleasantly surprised by how much it still cost when I wanted to buy another to play Graces f in my bedroom.

It's weird because the PS2 continued to sell amazingly after the PS3/360 launched and saw price drops which drove sales higher, Sony lost a lot of money on that system, you'd think they would try and get a bit back from it at this point.

It may be that Sony wants to drive people to the PS4 by keeping the PS3's price relatively high. That makes some sense at the launch of the PS4 but the PS3 really needs to come down on price now. Hopefully Microsoft does the same because my 360 was getting uncomfortably hot when I was playing Banjo-Kazooie just now :shifty:

Tales games (apart from, perhaps, Vesperia) are never graphical powerhouses, so I wouldn't have expected a great deal from a PS4 exclusive version anyway. In saying that, cross-gen might even turn out to be a bonus, since a lot of people consider Xillia and Zesteria to be pretty rough technically. The benefit of the PS4 version simply being upscaled would (hopefully) ensure that it runs with a great framerate, nice resolution and hopefully with some AA.

PostRe: Tales of Berseria (PS3/PS4) by **Rubix** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 7:57 pm

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