TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Rax » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:54 am

I work with 2 vegans who absolutely hate other vegans, its nice to see theyre not all militant dicks and theres normal vegans out there.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Rex Kramer » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:31 am

Errkal wrote:What I would be interested to see is the difference in carbon etc for a local diet (say buying from your county seasonally) compared to veganism that seems to be foods from all over the world and so have massive transportation costs

Livestock is a massive contributor to greenhouse gases so not sure the local aspect would make much of an impact.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Tomous » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:51 am

Rax wrote:I work with 2 vegans who absolutely hate other vegans, its nice to see theyre not all militant dicks and theres normal vegans out there.


I can imagine it's quite infuriating to be a normal, easy-going vegan, getting dragged down by the actions of others.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Hexx » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:23 am

Can I ask opinions on how something works?

Let's say 10 booked a meal for £10 deposit each at a restaurant.

8 people cancel but 2 still go.

The 2 peoples bill comes to £90.

Would that mean there's nothing further to pay, but the extra £10 is "lost", since the restaurant already received £100
Or
There's £70 still to pay for their meal after their 2 deposits? (with the other 8 deposits being written off)

(I've made up the numbers to better illustrate. It's a real situation at work right now. I'm sure it'd be the later, but the event organised is convinced it's the former. We're not phoning the restaurant and asking because "it's obvious and there's no need!"...)

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by That's not a growth » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:35 am

I'd say the former.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:36 am

Hexx wrote:Can I ask opinions on how something works?

Let's say 10 booked a meal for £10 deposit each at a restaurant.

8 people cancel but 2 still go.

The 2 peoples bill comes to £90.

Would that mean there's nothing further to pay, but the extra £10 is "lost", since the restaurant already received £100
Or
There's £70 still to pay for their meal after their 2 deposits? (with the other 8 deposits being written off)

(I've made up the numbers to better illustrate. It's a real situation at work right now. I'm sure it'd be the later, but the event organised is convinced it's the former. We're not phoning the restaurant and asking because "it's obvious and there's no need!"...)


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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Hexx » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:37 am

That's not a growth wrote:I'd say the former.


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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by OrangeReindeer » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:44 am

Deposits are for each person, I'm pretty sure you won't be able to transfer them all over to pay for just two meals

The point of the deposit is to insure the restaurant against lost income from booking out seats, so your colleague's suggestion doesn't make much sense. Even with two people going they've lost the income from eight others.

Normally you can cancel with enough notice though I think? You really should just ring up the restaurant and explain.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Sleighamorph » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:45 am

So the 2 people who cancelled, are the restaurant still going to be charging full price for their meals?
I thought the point of a deposit was that if you cancel then you lose the deposit, but they won't try to charge the full price.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Rex Kramer » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:45 am

Hexx wrote:Can I ask opinions on how something works?

Let's say 10 booked a meal for £10 deposit each at a restaurant.

8 people cancel but 2 still go.

The 2 peoples bill comes to £90.

Would that mean there's nothing further to pay, but the extra £10 is "lost", since the restaurant already received £100
Or
There's £70 still to pay for their meal after their 2 deposits? (with the other 8 deposits being written off)

(I've made up the numbers to better illustrate. It's a real situation at work right now. I'm sure it'd be the later, but the event organised is convinced it's the former. We're not phoning the restaurant and asking because "it's obvious and there's no need!"...)

I think if you don't call the restaurant then they could go with the later as they may argue they couldn't release the table for other bookings.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Tomous » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:50 am

I would definitely call the restaurant in that situation to sort it out. As others have said, if they know in advance, they can release the table and use it for other people. If they reserve the table for you and you don't use it, I think they'd be justified in keeping the deposit separate. Big difference between a party of 2 people and a party of 10 people.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Hexx » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:11 am

The numbers aren't as far apart as I've put in my example.

It's not my problem (I declined the invite :P) - but the remaining group going seem to be under the impression they can do nothing (such as tell the restaurant less people are going) and just turn up and "use" all the money already paid to settle their bill. (or part of it).

The point that the restaurant had expected 10 people's worth of bills (using my example numbers) and now only gets 2 people's worth...i.e. 8 customers are "lost" for the night as the table is booked...and that's the entire point of deposits is just not sinking in (Or the suggest to just PHONE THE RESTAURANT AND ASK...but that's a no go because it's obvious how it will work. Such a strong sense of entitlement :)

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Tomous » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:17 am

Hexx wrote:The numbers aren't as far apart as I've put in my example.

It's not my problem (I declined the invite :P) - but the remaining group going seem to be under the impression they can do nothing (such as tell the restaurant less people are going) and just turn up and "use" all the money already paid to settle their bill. (or part of it).

The point that the restaurant had expected 10 people's worth of bills (using my example numbers) and now only gets 2 people's worth...i.e. 8 customers are "lost" for the night as the table is booked...and that's the entire point of deposits is just not sinking in (Or the suggest to just PHONE THE RESTAURANT AND ASK...but that's a no go because it's obvious how it will work. Such a strong sense of entitlement :)

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It's a pretty dick move to not tell the restaurant regardless of the deposit.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Hexx » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:20 am

Tomous wrote:
Hexx wrote:The numbers aren't as far apart as I've put in my example.

It's not my problem (I declined the invite :P) - but the remaining group going seem to be under the impression they can do nothing (such as tell the restaurant less people are going) and just turn up and "use" all the money already paid to settle their bill. (or part of it).

The point that the restaurant had expected 10 people's worth of bills (using my example numbers) and now only gets 2 people's worth...i.e. 8 customers are "lost" for the night as the table is booked...and that's the entire point of deposits is just not sinking in (Or the suggest to just PHONE THE RESTAURANT AND ASK...but that's a no go because it's obvious how it will work. Such a strong sense of entitlement :)

Cheers all. Except TNAG. He's the worst.


It's a pretty dick move to not tell the restaurant regardless of the deposit.


Yeah I think they're just being obstinate against those of us saying they should tell the restaurant. I'm not even sure they believe they shouldn't, they just don't want to give ground right now

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Harry Ellis » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:20 am

I agree. You should go rogue and inform the restaurant on your colleagues behalf.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by OrangeReindeer » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:21 am

Yeah if you know the number of people has changed, ring up and let the restaurant know. It's common courtesy

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Hexx » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:23 am

Apparently not that common :x

(Again I think they will. Just not right now due to insecurity and having tied it, in their heads, to their position being 'right')

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by Bill Clay » Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:27 pm

Xmas name change yeah :toot:

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by I Believe In Stool Bloke » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:53 pm

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Preezy » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:56 am

Anyone else seen the Waitrose Christmas advert with the cranberry-filled turkey? Looks like they're performing surgery on a slab of meat. Mmmmmm lets slice into this block of turkey and watch all the red sauces and bits ooze out :dread:


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