TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Poser » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:04 am

Lagamorph wrote:I remember using the word jip on Neogaf once to describe the current state of arcades.
The entire thread turned into Americans telling everyone how racist that word was against Gypsies and how the English were hugely racist against Gypsies.


Odd one, that. It certainly does have racist etymology, but if a word like that has taken on a life of its own, and transcended its original implications, then is it ok to use?

Is it possible to use a word like that innocently? I believe it is, but it's a fascinating debate (to me, anyway).

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Preezy » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:20 am

My foot is giving me gyp - perfectly fine
You filthy gyp - perfectly racist

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Curls » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:25 am

Lagamorph wrote:I remember using the word jip on Neogaf once to describe the current state of arcades.
The entire thread turned into Americans telling everyone how racist that word was against Gypsies and how the English were hugely racist against Gypsies.



I'm 1/8th Irish, my great grandad was irish and I even have some relatives who still live there today, so therefore I find it offensive that you abuse my gypsy heritage.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Curls » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:26 am

Bloody Americans :roll:

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Moggy » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:27 am

It’s a bit like the word “mong”. People use it all the time without realising it’s offensive origins.

I guess a lot of the time things are about intent rather than the words themselves. If somebody doesn’t realise that a word is offensive (like an old person calling black people “coloured”) then it’s not the same as a TommyKip banana split screaming it in the streets.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Jenuall » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:45 am

On the subject of sleep timings, my body clock seems to be all over the place at the moment. Despite having three kids who are all terrible sleepers and will get me out of bed any time after 5AM on the average day I am finding it harder and harder to get myself to go to sleep at a reasonable hour! The last two nights I was up until 3AM and 2AM respectively, my brain just doesn't seem to want to switch off even though I know I need the sleep.

Suffering badly with "jumpy eye" now as a result, it's like my right eye is trying to periodically wobble it's way out of the eye socket! :shifty:

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Lotus » Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:37 am

I regularly go to bed anywhere between 1am-3am and get up anytime between 6am-8am. It's so easy to fall into a cycle of going to bed late, especially in the summer with lighter evenings and such. Barely having any free time in the evenings after a day at work just leads you to want to prolong it as much as possible, to the detriment of sleep and anything else. Or it does with me anyway. :slol:

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Buffalo » Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:37 am

So do you want me not to use it, or...?

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Bunni » Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:45 am

Went to be at 9:30 and woke up at 7. Granted I cycled 30 miles yesterday and worked 70 hours in the 6 days previous to it. Can't wait to go to bed tonight.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Lotus » Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:48 am

Buffalo wrote:So do you want me not to use it, or...?

We need to wait for taf's verdict - he's the arbiter of what's offensive and what isn't.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Hime » Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:18 pm

Lotus wrote:I regularly go to bed anywhere between 1am-3am and get up anytime between 6am-8am. It's so easy to fall into a cycle of going to bed late, especially in the summer with lighter evenings and such. Barely having any free time in the evenings after a day at work just leads you to want to prolong it as much as possible, to the detriment of sleep and anything else. Or it does with me anyway. :slol:

This is my first summer doing nightshifts and the light days are definitely making it difficult to sleep at odd times. I'm about to go for a nap but I'm still full of rage following an altercation with a cyclist, it's a lovely bright day and our room is like a green house. This isn't likely to go well.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by <]:^D » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:15 pm

i dont think you should use gyp/jip tbh. its a minor one.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Hexx » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:19 pm

8 months on transplant list - spoke to hospital today and still loads ahead. Shortage of parts too.

Opt out donation can’t come soon enough

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Karl » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:22 pm

Hexx wrote:8 months on transplant list - spoke to hospital today and still loads ahead. Shortage of parts too.

Opt out donation can’t come soon enough


Lure in some guy on Grindr, kill him, and take his eyeballs.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Hime » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:27 pm

Karl wrote:
Hexx wrote:8 months on transplant list - spoke to hospital today and still loads ahead. Shortage of parts too.

Opt out donation can’t come soon enough


Lure in some guy on Grindr, kill him, and take his eyeballs.

Hexx is gay and you just stereotyped him with no malicious intent in the name of humour.

Did you just do a banter a Karl? ;)

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Hime » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:48 pm

<]:^D wrote:i dont think you should use gyp/jip tbh. its a minor one.

If saying something like "my leg is giving me a bit of jip" bothers you, do you find it offence when local paper to report that travelers have set up camp somewhere and shops close, parks and recreation grounds install height restriction gates for the purpose of stopping travelers going on the land, etc?

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by <]:^D » Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:50 pm

yes i do, but from my line of work i also see what happens when travellers move in and dont actually tidy up after themselves, and cause a lot of issues.
i also dont see how its relevant what i think of actual gypsies when we're discussing if we find the use of 'gyp' a bit offensive in conversation :?
for what its worth i have no animosity towards gypsies or travellers - the bad ones always stick out because youre unlikely to hear about the quiet travellers who pitch up and then leave without leaving any evidence of their having been about, for obvious reasons!

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Hime » Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:00 pm

<]:^D wrote:yes i do, but from my line of work i also see what happens when travellers move in and dont actually tidy up after themselves, and cause a lot of issues.
i also dont see how its relevant what i think of actual gypsies when we're discussing if we find the use of 'gyp' a bit offensive in conversation :?
for what its worth i have no animosity towards gypsies or travellers - the bad ones always stick out because youre unlikely to hear about the quiet travellers who pitch up and then leave without leaving any evidence of their having been about, for obvious reasons!

I just wondered as your getting upset about the word "jip" when most people are clearly using it out of context. I don't think I've heard the word used in context that wasn't a body part giving someone an issue.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Albear » Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:03 pm

I strawberry floating hate pikeys

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Hexx » Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:14 pm

Karl wrote:
Hexx wrote:8 months on transplant list - spoke to hospital today and still loads ahead. Shortage of parts too.

Opt out donation can’t come soon enough


Lure in some guy on Grindr, kill him, and take his eyeballs.


I can't even get anyone on Grindr right now for fun. They all want to talk! Or date! Erugh


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