Telltale Games to close.

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PostRe: Telltale Games to close.
by Lex-Man » Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:40 pm

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twitter.com/richardcobbett/status/1044227966086074369



:lol:

I love the internet sometimes.


I went and looked up the thread.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/866800/d ... 248844529/

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PostRe: Telltale Games to close.
by Knoyleo » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:46 pm

lex-man wrote:
Manwell Pablo wrote:
Knoyleo wrote:

twitter.com/richardcobbett/status/1044227966086074369



:lol:

I love the internet sometimes.


I went and looked up the thread.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/866800/d ... 248844529/

Holy gooseberry fool. :lol:

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PostRe: Telltale Games to close.
by Gemini73 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:36 pm

Proving that are most gamers are dickheads.

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PostRe: Telltale Games to close.
by Victor Mildew » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:51 pm

Oh hey yeah thanks for making me redundant with no notice or redundancy pay. Come in in my spare time when I should be trying to find another job asap and finish your game for free, so the bank gets some return? I'D LOVE TO!

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PostRe: Telltale Games to close.
by Cuttooth » Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:05 pm

Ad7 wrote:Oh hey yeah thanks for making me redundant with no notice or redundancy pay. Come in in my spare time when I should be trying to find another job asap and finish your game for free, so the bank gets some return? I'D LOVE TO!

"Oh I'm not going to pay for it."

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by Lex-Man » Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:23 pm

Apparently former Telltale staff are suing the company for laying them all off with no notice.

https://www.pcgamer.com/telltale-games- ... _pcgamerfb

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PostRe: Telltale Games to close.
by Lagamorph » Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:31 pm

lex-man wrote:Apparently former Telltale staff are suing the company for laying them all off with no notice.

https://www.pcgamer.com/telltale-games- ... _pcgamerfb

On the one hand, good.

On the other hand, is there any money left for them to get out of the company in the event they win their lawsuit?

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PostRe: Telltale Games to close.
by Victor Mildew » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:13 am

All assets get sold in liquidation and any money goes to paying back loans. It would come out of that, plus any on going game sale revenues.

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PostRe: Telltale Games to close.
by Gemini73 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:41 am

Been reading a lot on this sorry tale and I'm stunned that the brass at Telltale are seemingly ignoring calls for staff to be looked after, instead choosing to pander to the pitchfork wielding online mob demanding they finish the games, in particular TWD.

Gamers being self entitled gooseberry fool stains is a title well deserved.

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PostRe: Telltale Games to close.
by Manwell Pablo » Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:46 am

lex-man wrote:Apparently former Telltale staff are suing the company for laying them all off with no notice.

https://www.pcgamer.com/telltale-games- ... _pcgamerfb


What? You mean not only are these so called passionate developers not going to come in to work in order develop a game for a company that laid them off with no notice and with no severance pay for free, they are now suing said company as well!

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PostRe: Telltale Games to close.
by more heat than light » Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:51 am

Gemini73 wrote:Been reading a lot on this sorry tale and I'm stunned that the brass at Telltale are seemingly ignoring calls for staff to be looked after, instead choosing to pander to the pitchfork wielding online mob demanding they finish the games, in particular TWD.

Gamers being self entitled gooseberry fool stains is a title well deserved.


They've paid for a game which they're not going to get. Obviously I and many others are sympathetic with people losing their jobs, but you can't help but feel put out by that. Don't blame gamers for being angry about it, blame the management that let it get to this point.

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PostRe: Telltale Games to close.
by Gemini73 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:01 am

more heat than light wrote:
Gemini73 wrote:Been reading a lot on this sorry tale and I'm stunned that the brass at Telltale are seemingly ignoring calls for staff to be looked after, instead choosing to pander to the pitchfork wielding online mob demanding they finish the games, in particular TWD.

Gamers being self entitled gooseberry fool stains is a title well deserved.


They've paid for a game which they're not going to get. Obviously I and many others are sympathetic with people losing their jobs, but you can't help but feel put out by that. Don't blame gamers for being angry about it, blame the management that let it get to this point.


There's being angry and then there's acting like gobshites over losing a few quid.

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by Tafdolphin » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:07 am

more heat than light wrote:
Gemini73 wrote:Been reading a lot on this sorry tale and I'm stunned that the brass at Telltale are seemingly ignoring calls for staff to be looked after, instead choosing to pander to the pitchfork wielding online mob demanding they finish the games, in particular TWD.

Gamers being self entitled gooseberry fool stains is a title well deserved.


They've paid for a game which they're not going to get. Obviously I and many others are sympathetic with people losing their jobs, but you can't help but feel put out by that. Don't blame gamers for being angry about it, blame the management that let it get to this point.


So first off, there was some more news released that states a huge deal fell through with Lionsgate (for a sort of video game/TV super show) and that this led to the closure. However you are indeed right, it was the upper management that led to a studio with a string of critical and sales-figure successes being forced into bankruptcy on the back of a single failed deal.

However, I remain very much of the view that completion of the games should be a secondary concern to the staff receiving their due, primarily because I think this is simply the right thing to do, but also because this is an issue that ties in with a concerning trend in the industry. Over the last few months, several companies have bowed to pressure put on them by a rabid fanbase in ways that have set very worrying precedents:

ArenaNet fired a female employee after she complained about a fan mansplaining her job to her, and another male employee after he defended her actions. This came after a huge fan campaign to have her fired.

Riot, just after announcing they were planning on measures to quell the toxic masculine culture at the company, fired two employees after they defended a women's only PAX talk. Again, this was after a campaign by insecure man-babies appalled that 'people who work for them' dared to speak back.

And now we have this and the Steam thread linked above. The sense of entitlement on display is shocking; to these people, these gamers, they have been denied something and, as a group, this is inconceivable. So I do blame these people, these gamers here. I blame their complete lack of objective reasoning. I blame the culture, fostered by GamerGate that continues to permeate and corrupt the fanbase of the hobby I love.

I understand you have paid for a product and want to see this fulfilled. But I think it's worth recognising that, even though your thought process is different and entirely more reasonable, any demand that the company releases further games without taking into account the actual human suffering this is perpetuating unfortunately puts you alongside those braying that the devs should work for free so gamers can get their precious closure.

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PostRe: Telltale Games to close.
by Knoyleo » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:14 am

more heat than light wrote:
Gemini73 wrote:Been reading a lot on this sorry tale and I'm stunned that the brass at Telltale are seemingly ignoring calls for staff to be looked after, instead choosing to pander to the pitchfork wielding online mob demanding they finish the games, in particular TWD.

Gamers being self entitled gooseberry fool stains is a title well deserved.


They've paid for a game which they're not going to get. Obviously I and many others are sympathetic with people losing their jobs, but you can't help but feel put out by that. Don't blame gamers for being angry about it, blame the management that let it get to this point.

Don't pre order episodic content?

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PostRe: Telltale Games to close.
by Gemini73 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:22 am

@Taf

The toxic element of the games community does sometimes make me do a little sick in my mouth.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018 ... s-intended

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PostRe: Telltale Games to close.
by more heat than light » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:24 am

Tafdolphin wrote:I understand you have paid for a product and want to see this fulfilled. But I think it's worth recognising that, even though your thought process is different and entirely more reasonable, any demand that the company releases further games without taking into account the actual human suffering this is perpetuating unfortunately puts you alongside those braying that the devs should work for free so gamers can get their precious closure.


For the record, I'm not demanding anything. I think being disappointed a game is not going to finished is natural, and when Telltale posted the tweet saying it might be finished I was pleased. I understand that this is a gooseberry fool way of doing things as a lot of people are suffering as a result, but I'm still happy from a personal perspective. Is that selfish of me? Possibly, but I think someone can be sympathetic to the cause of Telltale staff and also want to see the game finished.

I should also clarify that people making threats and posts like the one earlier in the thread are obviously out of order and those people can strawberry float off.

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PostRe: Telltale Games to close.
by Tafdolphin » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:25 am

Gemini73 wrote:@Taf

The toxic element of the games community does sometimes make me do a little sick in my mouth.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018 ... s-intended


Thankfully in that case Creative Assembly have told those people to go strawberry float themselves. Well, sort of. Their statement was a little to pandering to my liking, more than half of it was assuring people the chances of getting a woman general remained very low (totally not the strawberry floating point) but at least they didn't strawberry floating create an option to remove them from the game or anything.

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PostRe: Telltale Games to close.
by Gemini73 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:35 am

Tafdolphin wrote:
Gemini73 wrote:@Taf

The toxic element of the games community does sometimes make me do a little sick in my mouth.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018 ... s-intended


Thankfully in that case Creative Assembly have told those people to go strawberry float themselves. Well, sort of. Their statement was a little to pandering to my liking, more than half of it was assuring people the chances of getting a woman general remained very low (totally not the strawberry floating point) but at least they didn't strawberry floating create an option to remove them from the game or anything.


Point being there's always a level of pandering to the obnoxious online mob, as we're seeing with Telltale.

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PostRe: Telltale Games to close.
by Tafdolphin » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:58 am

In other news, assets and footage from TTG's Stranger Things title has emerged.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments ... y_footage/

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PostRe: Telltale Games to close.
by Victor Mildew » Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:57 pm

Performance looks terrible, they should shut the studio down.

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