Re: Terrorist attack in Paris
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:50 pm
Remember: it's not all about the prophets.
[iup=3653692]Dblock[/iup] wrote:[iup=3653680]Falsey[/iup] wrote:[iup=3653677]Eighthours[/iup] wrote:[iup=3653669]Dblock[/iup] wrote:If you ever seen the film The Messenger you will know that we muslims do not show mohammed in drawings, films etc purely because he is a human and a prophet . Knowing history people will start worshipping him which he always advised against and said I'm just a messenger .
So why are the words 'Peace be upon him' automatically inserted into a sentence after mentioning his name by some Muslims? Sounds pretty much like worshipping him to me...
By the way, is the same rule applied to Allah? Can he be pictured?
Eighthours, peace be upon him is a sign of respect. Worship of the teachings is one thing, but idolatry is forbidden. (Generally not the mere portrayal of the prophet, though that still is distasteful).
You obviously worship god, but you do not worship his image.[iup=3653676]Dblock[/iup] wrote:[iup=3653673]Falsey[/iup] wrote:Did you steal a quote from that Radio 2 interview at lunch time?
What are you talking about?
What happened on Radio 2?
Just some guy said basically the exact thing you said.
It's a common thing actually. It's hard to explain to someone who doesn't understand it in the bigger picture, but yes, if you are a true muslim you should love your prophet more than anything else on earth. Now this is not because it's demanded or expected ....Islam teaches parents are the most important thing in your life and without you respecting you are not a true muslim.
I don't see why they need to go out of their way to draw Mohammed, what are they hoping to achieve except insult 2 billion people on earth? This is just publicity stunt, would any of you guys know these strawberry floating french banana splits if they didn't do this? No, of course not.
We respect other religions and don't go out of our way to draw or do something that offends them. Atheist are just strawberry floating bored and need constant approval which just begs of sadness.
[iup=3653694]Moggy[/iup] wrote:[iup=3653670]Dblock[/iup] wrote:[iup=3653369]Eighthours[/iup] wrote:Guys, guys... maybe Muhammed went into witness protection and that's why he's so keen on no one drawing his picture.
Maybe you need to shut the strawberry float up.
See this is why you guys will never understand a muslim. Our prophet is more dear to me than my own parents, I love him more than the world, joke all you want but I find it insensitive and moronic thing to do .
It's as if you insult my parents.
What about pictures of Jesus, Moses etc? They were also prophets, but Muslims don't seem to mind pictures of Jesus?
I find it odd that Islam teaches that there is only one God and that Mohammed is only a prophet and yet Muslims get so angry about disrespect towards Mohammed. I get that he is important to the religion, but if you are so worried about idolatry, I would suggest you are already doing so by making Mohammed so much more important than any other person or prophet.
[iup=3653691]Rax[/iup] wrote:[iup=3653670]Dblock[/iup] wrote:[iup=3653369]Eighthours[/iup] wrote:Guys, guys... maybe Muhammed went into witness protection and that's why he's so keen on no one drawing his picture.
Maybe you need to shut the strawberry float up.
See this is why you guys will never understand a muslim. Our prophet is more dear to me than my own parents, I love him more than the world, joke all you want but I find it insensitive and moronic thing to do .
It's as if you insult my parents.
So? Thats your problem, you cant expect everyone else to tiptoe around you just because you dont like it.
[iup=3653699]Eighthours[/iup] wrote:[iup=3653694]Moggy[/iup] wrote:[iup=3653670]Dblock[/iup] wrote:[iup=3653369]Eighthours[/iup] wrote:Guys, guys... maybe Muhammed went into witness protection and that's why he's so keen on no one drawing his picture.
Maybe you need to shut the strawberry float up.
See this is why you guys will never understand a muslim. Our prophet is more dear to me than my own parents, I love him more than the world, joke all you want but I find it insensitive and moronic thing to do .
It's as if you insult my parents.
What about pictures of Jesus, Moses etc? They were also prophets, but Muslims don't seem to mind pictures of Jesus?
I find it odd that Islam teaches that there is only one God and that Mohammed is only a prophet and yet Muslims get so angry about disrespect towards Mohammed. I get that he is important to the religion, but if you are so worried about idolatry, I would suggest you are already doing so by making Mohammed so much more important than any other person or prophet.
You've put it much better than me. This is what I was trying to suggest earlier.
[iup=3653670]Dblock[/iup] wrote:[iup=3653369]Eighthours[/iup] wrote:Guys, guys... maybe Muhammed went into witness protection and that's why he's so keen on no one drawing his picture.
Maybe you need to shut the strawberry float up.
See this is why you guys will never understand a muslim. Our prophet is more dear to me than my own parents, I love him more than the world, joke all you want but I find it insensitive and moronic thing to do .
It's as if you insult my parents.
[iup=3653694]Moggy[/iup] wrote:[iup=3653670]Dblock[/iup] wrote:[iup=3653369]Eighthours[/iup] wrote:Guys, guys... maybe Muhammed went into witness protection and that's why he's so keen on no one drawing his picture.
Maybe you need to shut the strawberry float up.
See this is why you guys will never understand a muslim. Our prophet is more dear to me than my own parents, I love him more than the world, joke all you want but I find it insensitive and moronic thing to do .
It's as if you insult my parents.
What about pictures of Jesus, Moses etc? They were also prophets, but Muslims don't seem to mind pictures of Jesus?
I find it odd that Islam teaches that there is only one God and that Mohammed is only a prophet and yet Muslims get so angry about disrespect towards Mohammed. I get that he is important to the religion, but if you are so worried about idolatry, I would suggest you are already doing so by making Mohammed so much more important than any other person or prophet.
[iup=3653702]Dblock[/iup] wrote:[iup=3653691]Rax[/iup] wrote:[iup=3653670]Dblock[/iup] wrote:[iup=3653369]Eighthours[/iup] wrote:Guys, guys... maybe Muhammed went into witness protection and that's why he's so keen on no one drawing his picture.
Maybe you need to shut the strawberry float up.
See this is why you guys will never understand a muslim. Our prophet is more dear to me than my own parents, I love him more than the world, joke all you want but I find it insensitive and moronic thing to do .
It's as if you insult my parents.
So? Thats your problem, you cant expect everyone else to tiptoe around you just because you dont like it.
WHY! do you need to draw something that people frown upon? It's not like you have genuine interest in Islam so why go out of your way?
Tiptoe? No, when you directly insult the prophet you insult all muslims. We believe in his teachings and if we did not get offended than we never truly cared for his teaching .
Now, about the violence, that is something that is unacceptable. Regardless of what you believe, we do not like taken life unless its in self defence . The whole thing is bullshit, and it is there to make muslims the boogie man. ''ooowww fear the muslims, oooooh kill the muslims'' and you guys are eating it up like a hot delicious pie. ''Terrorist attack''....yes, of course it is when you are speaking of muslims. I personally believe these people that are committing these crimes are being funded by agenda that is out to destroy muslim image (it's already destroyed in the media).
Funny how the shoe bomber and this french guy were once room mates. What are the strawberry floating odds? CIA is raping your skulls and you love it.
[iup=3653711]TigaSefi[/iup] wrote:Christianity was ruined/finished when most people realise the whole book is complete bollocks and there no justifiable cause for forcing a view over a group of people by any means necessary.
[iup=3653709]Dblock[/iup] wrote:[iup=3653694]Moggy[/iup] wrote:[iup=3653670]Dblock[/iup] wrote:[iup=3653369]Eighthours[/iup] wrote:Guys, guys... maybe Muhammed went into witness protection and that's why he's so keen on no one drawing his picture.
Maybe you need to shut the strawberry float up.
See this is why you guys will never understand a muslim. Our prophet is more dear to me than my own parents, I love him more than the world, joke all you want but I find it insensitive and moronic thing to do .
It's as if you insult my parents.
What about pictures of Jesus, Moses etc? They were also prophets, but Muslims don't seem to mind pictures of Jesus?
I find it odd that Islam teaches that there is only one God and that Mohammed is only a prophet and yet Muslims get so angry about disrespect towards Mohammed. I get that he is important to the religion, but if you are so worried about idolatry, I would suggest you are already doing so by making Mohammed so much more important than any other person or prophet.
Very good point moggy.
That is exactly the reason why we do not draw mohammed as that usually leads to idolatry as seen in the case of Jesus. Jesus is our prophet but Christianity has been completely ruined once they started believing he was the god and not messenger . He is a important person, a prophet is a important high valued person and we have never said Mohammed is more important than Jesus or Moses.
[iup=3653729]Eighthours[/iup] wrote:Which Christians believe that Jesus is the God and not the messenger? Surely none. He's just the big guy's kid.
[iup=3653721]Dblock[/iup] wrote:Muslims full well know whoever you're depicting is not Jesus (if you read the Quran) .
I personally look away everytime someone makes fun of Jesus and it does annoy me. It's the media blowing things out of proportion and people (muslims/non muslims) blindly falling for it .