The 2017 UK General Election Thread - Voting open today from 7am - 10pm

Fed up talking videogames? Why?

Who will you be voting for?

Conservatives
14
11%
Labour
64
50%
UK Independence Party
0
No votes
Liberal Democrats (inc. Alliance)
33
26%
Scottish Nationalists
9
7%
Green Party (inc. Scotland, Northern Ireland)
6
5%
Democratic Unionists
0
No votes
Sinn Féin
0
No votes
Plaid Cymru
0
No votes
Ulster Unionists
0
No votes
Social Democrats
1
1%
Traditional Unionist Voice
0
No votes
People Before Profit Alliance
1
1%
 
Total votes: 128
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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Moggy » Tue May 23, 2017 12:00 pm

Corbyn is a London politician. I am unaware of any Loyalist bombings in the city that he represents. Wouldn't it make more sense to meet the Republicans if you are trying to achieve peace?

I don't think working for a magazine that published something written by somebody else is much evidence of "direct support for the IRA" either.

Corbyn is a twat, but accusing him of direct support for the IRA is insane, unless you have actual evidence of that.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Lotus » Tue May 23, 2017 12:01 pm

Really wasn't convinced by Theresa May last night. It was a given that she wasn't going to answer the questions, but the constant sniping at Jeremy Corbyn and the repetition of the same soundbites over and over just made me turn it off. I've set my recorder to record the series, so will watch the Labour and Lib Dem ones as well, if I can bear them. Why does every election always feel like an absolute chore and case of picking the least worse party. We never seem to have anybody that genuinely gives people hope, or there's always some kind of drawback with any given candidate/party.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Return_of_the_STAR » Tue May 23, 2017 12:11 pm

Lotus wrote:Really wasn't convinced by Theresa May last night. It was a given that she wasn't going to answer the questions, but the constant sniping at Jeremy Corbyn and the repetition of the same soundbites over and over just made me turn it off. I've set my recorder to record the series, so will watch the Labour and Lib Dem ones as well, if I can bear them. Why does every election always feel like an absolute chore and case of picking the least worse party. We never seem to have anybody that genuinely gives people hope, or there's always some kind of drawback with any given candidate/party.


I think that's a problem with our governmental system. you don't get a personality who can sweep in like in France for example who doesn't a have a party behind him but can still get elected. Here our leaders are hamstrung by party ideals and past decisions.

Maybe if we could elect our prime minister it would be different but that would require a complete overhaul of the system.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Lotus » Tue May 23, 2017 12:18 pm

Yeah, I mean I was watching some of the reaction to Macron's election. People jumping up and down screaming with excitement. I can't imagine getting that excited about anything, let alone a politician being elected, but you think of Obama, Macron, even Trudeau, and it at least feels like a breath of fresh air and that something really positive could happen, even if they get mired in other parties stopping them acting out their policies or they fail to follow through on things. That's the main point (do they actually do what they say they're going to do) but even the feeling they could seems to be missing from UK politics. It's always so bleak and just feels like history repeating itself.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Preezy » Tue May 23, 2017 12:21 pm

It doesn't help that all of our politicians are deeply unattractive.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Hexx » Tue May 23, 2017 12:28 pm

Preezy wrote:It doesn't help that all of our politicians are deeply unattractive.


Look I love Trudy's arse as much as the next person and maybe that's true of the party leaders and key figures.

There's some real totty though in the, ahem, back benches.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by KK » Tue May 23, 2017 12:29 pm

That optimism and charisma in UK politics hasn't existed since Blair in 1997. It's been a gradual erosion ever since. And it's completely collapsed in the USA. Missing is that general energy, verve, vigour, bounce, whatever you want to call it. There's no spark whatsoever to any of them.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Hexx » Tue May 23, 2017 12:30 pm

And now I'm going to spend 30minutes voting on http://sexymp.co.uk/

I blame Preezy.

First question. Eric Pickles or Jacob Rees Mogg. **Voms**

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by That » Tue May 23, 2017 12:31 pm

Preezy wrote:It doesn't help that all of our politicians are deeply unattractive.


I reckon Corbyn would be a tender lover but I'm not sure I want to go somewhere Abbott's been.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Moggy » Tue May 23, 2017 12:38 pm

KK wrote:And it's completely collapsed in the USA.


Optimism might have collapsed in the USA, but they still care deeply about their favourite politicians. Just look at the Trump supporters.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by KK » Tue May 23, 2017 12:42 pm

Corbyn's wife is fairly attractive, though we never see her, even when invited (The One Show).

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I'm sure most people think he lives alone and spends all his time in an allotment.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by BID0 » Tue May 23, 2017 1:04 pm

KK wrote:Corbyn's wife is fairly attractive, though we never see her, even when invited (The One Show).

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I'm sure most people think he lives alone and spends all his time in an allotment.

Probably because Corbyn would rather focus on his actual job rather than make it some kind of reality tv what happens back at home kind of thing. She was in the Vice video (last year?) that's the only time I've seen her interviewed. Not that it really matters.

Lotus wrote:Yeah, I mean I was watching some of the reaction to Macron's election. People jumping up and down screaming with excitement. I can't imagine getting that excited about anything, let alone a politician being elected, but you think of Obama, Macron, even Trudeau, and it at least feels like a breath of fresh air and that something really positive could happen, even if they get mired in other parties stopping them acting out their policies or they fail to follow through on things. That's the main point (do they actually do what they say they're going to do) but even the feeling they could seems to be missing from UK politics. It's always so bleak and just feels like history repeating itself.

Check the 2017 Labour manifesto if you think everything is always the same thing but with two small variations. And google will serve you up Corbyn's political career/voting history to see if "they actually do what they say they're going to do".

Likewise you can do the same with the other parties too.

Don't get your information from the TV, Radio or Newspapers

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Rex Kramer » Tue May 23, 2017 1:10 pm

KK wrote:That optimism and charisma in UK politics hasn't existed since Blair in 1997. It's been a gradual erosion ever since. And it's completely collapsed in the USA. Missing is that general energy, verve, vigour, bounce, whatever you want to call it. There's no spark whatsoever to any of them.

I remember all that, it really did seem (for a while) that things were changing. And now look where we are.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Photek » Tue May 23, 2017 1:10 pm

Our next Taoiseach (PM) is likely to be Gay which is rather fitting of how far we've come as a country.

https://www.joe.ie/news/bookies-suspend-betting-leo-varadkar-next-taoiseach-589083

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Rex Kramer » Tue May 23, 2017 1:15 pm

Photek wrote:Our next Taoiseach (PM) is likely to be Gay which is rather fitting of how far we've come as a country.

https://www.joe.ie/news/bookies-suspend-betting-leo-varadkar-next-taoiseach-589083

It says there that his name is Leo not Gay.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Moggy » Tue May 23, 2017 1:40 pm

Photek wrote:Our next Taoiseach (PM) is likely to be Gay which is rather fitting of how far we've come as a country.

https://www.joe.ie/news/bookies-suspend-betting-leo-varadkar-next-taoiseach-589083


Might be awkward when the Pope visits.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by KK » Tue May 23, 2017 6:48 pm

Paul Nuttall's scheduled interview with Andrew Neil tonight has been delayed due to the terrorist attack. He probably only would have put his foot in his mouth anyway.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Memento Mori » Tue May 23, 2017 6:49 pm

Moggy wrote:Corbyn is a London politician. I am unaware of any Loyalist bombings in the city that he represents. Wouldn't it make more sense to meet the Republicans if you are trying to achieve peace?

I don't think working for a magazine that published something written by somebody else is much evidence of "direct support for the IRA" either.

Corbyn is a twat, but accusing him of direct support for the IRA is insane, unless you have actual evidence of that.

The most recent issue of Private Eye briefly mentioned that Corbyn was arrested for protesting in support outside a trial of IRA bombers in 1986.

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Hexx » Wed May 24, 2017 9:22 am

Memento Mori wrote:
Moggy wrote:Corbyn is a London politician. I am unaware of any Loyalist bombings in the city that he represents. Wouldn't it make more sense to meet the Republicans if you are trying to achieve peace?

I don't think working for a magazine that published something written by somebody else is much evidence of "direct support for the IRA" either.

Corbyn is a twat, but accusing him of direct support for the IRA is insane, unless you have actual evidence of that.

The most recent issue of Private Eye briefly mentioned that Corbyn was arrested for protesting in support outside a trial of IRA bombers in 1986.


Yep. He was there to "show solidarity against the show trial".

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PostRe: The 2017 UK General Election Thread - 8th June
by Moggy » Wed May 24, 2017 9:28 am

Hexx wrote:
Memento Mori wrote:
Moggy wrote:Corbyn is a London politician. I am unaware of any Loyalist bombings in the city that he represents. Wouldn't it make more sense to meet the Republicans if you are trying to achieve peace?

I don't think working for a magazine that published something written by somebody else is much evidence of "direct support for the IRA" either.

Corbyn is a twat, but accusing him of direct support for the IRA is insane, unless you have actual evidence of that.

The most recent issue of Private Eye briefly mentioned that Corbyn was arrested for protesting in support outside a trial of IRA bombers in 1986.


Yep. He was there to "show solidarity against the show trial".


I can't remember where I saw it, but somebody said the context of Corbyn protesting the show trial was that it was around the time of the Guildford 4 and Birmingham 6. I am not convinced that is true (I think those miscarriages of justice came to light after the Brighton bomber trial) but he said at the time he was protesting a "show trial" not that he was there to support the IRA.


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